Domus Phrasticus flaws

logarifmik · June 2017

Domus Phrasticus situated in one of my favorite areas, Craglorn, and I adore imperial architecture. And, yeah, that's why I bought it rashly. Suddenly, after closer look at it, I found that this house have some design flaws, which makes me... annoyed.
The most obvious (bah, now it is obvious, of course!): interior area don't fit exterior one. It looks like interior is from some other building. For example, if you look at the facade, you will see 2 windows at the 1st floor, when inside you have only one. Also you can see attic there, but, well, no real attic exists, sorry. And it may sound kinda funny (no), but I saw exactly such interior somewhere in the Dominion, which makes this house looks like, well, quickie.

If you are thinking about buying this house, think again.

P.S. I wrote this thread in order to point out shortcomings of this particular house for perfectionists like me.

This is post of eternal sadness, because design of Domus Phrasticus will never (NEVER!) change.

Gargath · June 2017

Be real perfectionist and post some screenshots about what exactly you are talking

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Onefrkncrzypope · June 2017

Same for the large "colovian" house

Rouven · June 2017

Well obviously some of the space is for your servants. One simply does not enter the servants quarters.

(Yes, I never count the steps to make sure it's the same size - it just makes you go bazonkers. Just enjoy what you have and find a reason why the rest of the space is currently closed off. There was a grizzly murder in my house and it's not cleaned up yet.)

logarifmik · June 2017

@Gargath, good point! Here are some screenshots with my comments.

Facade, front door.

Here one can see fake windows and mysterious attic.

Backyard.

Again fake windows, plus interior stairs didn't taken into account in the exterior model.

Side wall, where chimney is.

The most ridiculous flaw on my opinion. And, yes, not a single hint of chimney in exterior model.

That's not all flaws of course, but those are enough to show that this house is a disaster. I don't know other house which was modeled that bad.

kargen27 · June 2017

There are a few houses like that where windows do not match. Almost like they had one team design the outside and another the inside with no communication between the two.

NordSwordnBoard · June 2017

Yes, it motivated me to put a wall over the 2nd floor window to overcome the disappearing chimney mystery, which magically re-appears in the middle of the roof outside. Imperial HVAC is advanced for its time.

The house is magically infused. Ever met Phrastus the Scholar? He's in the Imperial sewers, being haughty. Its his way of proving his superiority: he confuses you and scolds you for not understanding.

You can only access half of the castle wall/parapet.

I was gonna make a roof deck but the height limit prevents you from using the roof.

There's a smashed house in Cheydinhal in Cyrodiil that is the same layout, but broken apart so you can compare outside with interior without loading through door.

Its still my favorite house, and my primary. Nothing beats a treasure chest and nirncrux in your front yard. There's also a merchant at Bangkorai gate dressed as a DC soldier next door.

Like any real estate with "character" the negatives become conversation topics lol and get glossed over.

Gravord · June 2017

logarifmik wrote: »

Domus Phrasticus situated in one of my favorite areas, Craglorn, and I adore imperial architecture. And, yeah, that's why I bought it rashly. Suddenly, after closer look at it, I found that this house have some design flaws, which makes me... annoyed.
The most obvious (bah, now it is obvious, of course!): interior area don't fit exterior one. It looks like interior is from some other building. For example, if you look at the facade, you will see 2 windows at the 1st floor, when inside you have only one. Also you can see attic there, but, well, no real attic exists, sorry. And it may sound kinda funny (no), but I saw exactly such interior somewhere in the Dominion, which makes this house looks like, well, quickie.

If you are thinking about buying this house, think again.

P.S. I wrote this thread in order to point out shortcomings of this particular house for perfectionists like me. This is post of eternal sadness, because design of Domus Phrasticus will never (NEVER!) change.

Dont forget add that by mystic powers all imperial homes count as Cyrodiil, so you cant summon and use your assistants in them...

logarifmik · June 2017

Rouven wrote: »

Well obviously some of the space is for your servants. One simply does not enter the servants quarters.

Certainly, one always can came up with some fairy-tale explanation, but sometimes you just want things to be right. Today I wanted to decorate this house with dwemer mechanisms. I wanted tubes to lead through house walls, but it can be only implemented when exterior and interior models match. Well, here is a problem, that can't be solved by roleplay explanation, yes?

kargen27 wrote: »

There are a few houses like that where windows do not match. Almost like they had one team design the outside and another the inside with no communication between the two.

Shame if so.

NordSwordnBoard wrote: »

The house is magically infused. Ever met Phrastus the Scholar? He's in the Imperial sewers, being haughty. Its his way of proving his superiority: he confuses you and scolds you for not understanding.

Wow, that's a great explanation. Never met him or maybe I just don't remember. Of course, one can think about interior as pocket of Oblivion... but damn it, this chimney. Guess I need to change my main residence after all.

Rouven · June 2017

logarifmik wrote: »

Certainly, one always can came up with some fairy-tale explanation, but sometimes you just want things to be right. Today I wanted to decorate this house with dwemer mechanisms. I wanted tubes to lead through house walls, but it can be only implemented when exterior and interior models match. Well, here is a problem, that can't be solved by roleplay explanation, yes?

That's a very cool idea and in that case I would limit it or try to find clear spots that will work, which in turn increases the "aha" effect. Like next to the door, something like that.

I guess I'm just trying to say that you should not get discouraged - because most likely these things will not be fixed or not for a long time.

Danikat · June 2017

All of the houses are "quickies" in the sense that the models existed elsewhere in the game and were simply re-used. I think it actually makes sense - if you look at any town in ESO (or any Elder Scrolls game) you'll see the same building designs used over and over. It's the same in most real-world cities too. So it'd be a bit odd for all player houses to be unique.

But the mismatch between the inside and the outside bothers me too. It's not the only house that does this, but it's probably one of the more extreme examples and it's one I was seriously considering buying. It seems like a small thing but once I realised I found myself noticing and being bothered by it every single time I previewed the place.

There were other reasons I didn't get it in the end, but that was certainly on the list of things which put me off.

Ghost-Shot · June 2017

I want to be able to access that damn tower on the wall! And the third floor!

agegarton · June 2017

It's too damn dark, too. Like the pit of hell after the fires went out.

starkerealm · June 2017

Gravord wrote: »

Dont forget add that by mystic powers all imperial homes count as Cyrodiil, so you cant summon and use your assistants in them...

You can, however, place your assistants in them. So if you want to have access to Tythis, you just need to stick him in a corner permanently.

weedgenius · June 2018

Does anyone have suggestions for making that stupidly ugly and permanent wooden stable thing in the backyard look.... not so terrible and ugly? To my knowledge no other houses have something so ridiculous looking that is not removable. Can I hide it somehow with some other furnishing? Maybe wrap it up in flowers or something? God, it's terrible.

Reverb · June 2018

weedgenius wrote: »

Does anyone have suggestions for making that stupidly ugly and permanent wooden stable thing in the backyard look.... not so terrible and ugly? To my knowledge no other houses have something so ridiculous looking that is not removable. Can I hide it somehow with some other furnishing? Maybe wrap it up in flowers or something? God, it's terrible.

Embrace the ugly. Turn it into an Outhouse.

Yolokin_Swagonborn · June 2018

I turned down Uglius Housius for a few reasons, that was one of them. The others being the aforementioned unremovable doghouse, the terrible invisible walls on the roof preventing any building and a very low skybox.

This just underscores the greater problem in quality control with some of the medium houses while ZOS seems to center all their attention on the 15k crown mansions.

I'm still waiting for them to fix twin arches so a redguard can go sit on his own roof. Housing is long overdue for a Quality Of Life fix for some of the smaller places.

Mattock_Romulus · June 2018

Surprised no one mentioned the top of the stairs inside.

Your feet sink completely into the floor in the square area on top of the inside stairs.

agegarton · June 2018

Have to say I agree. There are not many Imperial style houses, and they’re all pretty disappointing. This is the most disappointing house I bought - it’s also the one with the biggest light problems, both in terms of the overall very low light level, and in terms of glitchy light leakage.

dtsharples · June 2018

Like Dani said, most of the houses, if not all, are just buildings pulled from elsewhere in the game.
They weren't built exclusively, and really shouldn't cost what they do.

For example, Daggerfall Overlook is Wayrest bank / Wayrest Castle with some minor alterations.
There is a whole balcony level on the outside that is totally inaccessible when you buy it.
And similar to your building, the outside is completely different to the inside - it just doesnt add up.

Gravord · June 2018

logarifmik wrote: »

Domus Phrasticus situated in one of my favorite areas, Craglorn, and I adore imperial architecture. And, yeah, that's why I bought it rashly. Suddenly, after closer look at it, I found that this house have some design flaws, which makes me... annoyed.
The most obvious (bah, now it is obvious, of course!): interior area don't fit exterior one. It looks like interior is from some other building. For example, if you look at the facade, you will see 2 windows at the 1st floor, when inside you have only one. Also you can see attic there, but, well, no real attic exists, sorry. And it may sound kinda funny (no), but I saw exactly such interior somewhere in the Dominion, which makes this house looks like, well, quickie.

If you are thinking about buying this house, think again.

P.S. I wrote this thread in order to point out shortcomings of this particular house for perfectionists like me. This is post of eternal sadness, because design of Domus Phrasticus will never (NEVER!) change.

I waited for Gold Coast home long time... everything is *** asymetrical, interior doesnt match exterior aswell...

Luthivar · June 2018

Is there actually any house that offers an interior matching the exterior?

Still worst imo is the Alinor home. The whole ground floor hasn't any windows. Perfectly fine for discotheques or sm-cellars. Not so for other purposes