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New player, Overwhelmed on class selection, can't decide and need some help please!
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evoniee✭✭✭✭VikingBerserker wrote: »That's simply not true. I pvp daily in kyne, and pre 50 bgs. In fact i prefer pre 50 pvp because it's much smaller investment. I went 22/0/16 on my fresh lv 24 magblade just last night. If you have a guild with a 6 trait crafter anyone can do what I do.
Its not impossible for you cause you already spent like 500+ hours into the game, while OP not even reach lvl 50 yet, and asking this kinda topic. Cant believe you dont even understand OP situation.1 -
Cyngar✭VikingBerserker wrote: »That's simply not true. I pvp daily in kyne, and pre 50 bgs. In fact i prefer pre 50 pvp because it's much smaller investment. I went 22/0/16 on my fresh lv 24 magblade just last night. If you have a guild with a 6 trait crafter anyone can do what I do.
Its not impossible for you cause you already spent like 500+ hours into the game, while OP not even reach lvl 50 yet, and asking this kinda topic. Cant believe you dont even understand OP situation.
No worries. had no idea what they were talking about anyways
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TheCyberDruid✭✭✭✭✭It def interests me alot when I check them out. I struggle that the popular build is 2h and not a dw, but that's me thinking NB is a rogue.
A lot of people gave really good answers to the question already, so I'll just give my 2 cents too. Two handed is the way to go for PVP and dual wield is what you should consider for PVE. Stamina NB just offers a really pleasant way to learn how the game works in both cases (or in most cases).0 -
Casterial✭✭✭✭✭
✭Go with what you want and learn from your mistakes. Honestly this is the best way of doing it, I was a Redguard Magicka DK at the start of the game haha... but this was back when it was really possible! I didn't know I had nerfed myself doing so, but hell I still have it and play it!
Yea I get that @Casterial with my little time frame to play I would prefer not to do that too much I'm already starting fresh on PC now, So trying to find something good now would be prefer and hope its not the worst class out there for PvP 
Depends what you like doing all that matters is class utility and if you wanna go dmg its usually stamina, tank is health, and healing / support is often magicka. Pick a good race you like, and then go ahead and pick a class with utility you like.
I'm casual now days but I have a lvl 50 of every toon :PEdited by Casterial on June 12, 2018 1:05AMDaggerfall Covenant:Casterial Stamplar || Casterial DK || Availed NB || Castyrial Sorc || Spooky Casterial Necro
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Cyngar✭Go with what you want and learn from your mistakes. Honestly this is the best way of doing it, I was a Redguard Magicka DK at the start of the game haha... but this was back when it was really possible! I didn't know I had nerfed myself doing so, but hell I still have it and play it!
Yea I get that @Casterial with my little time frame to play I would prefer not to do that too much I'm already starting fresh on PC now, So trying to find something good now would be prefer and hope its not the worst class out there for PvP
Depends what you like doing all that matters is class utility and if you wanna go dmg its usually stamina, tank is health, and healing / support is often magicka. Pick a good race you like, and then go ahead and pick a class with utility you like.
I'm casual now days but I have a lvl 50 of every toon :P
@Casterial sounds good. Since rolling to PC now, what are some good beginner add ons that help?0 -
Casterial✭✭✭✭✭
✭Go with what you want and learn from your mistakes. Honestly this is the best way of doing it, I was a Redguard Magicka DK at the start of the game haha... but this was back when it was really possible! I didn't know I had nerfed myself doing so, but hell I still have it and play it!
Yea I get that @Casterial with my little time frame to play I would prefer not to do that too much I'm already starting fresh on PC now, So trying to find something good now would be prefer and hope its not the worst class out there for PvP
Depends what you like doing all that matters is class utility and if you wanna go dmg its usually stamina, tank is health, and healing / support is often magicka. Pick a good race you like, and then go ahead and pick a class with utility you like.
I'm casual now days but I have a lvl 50 of every toon :P
@Casterial sounds good. Since rolling to PC now, what are some good beginner add ons that help?
Master Merchant (MM) Helps you find your guilds pricing... Tamriel Trading Centre - this scans all markets for you
Kill Counter - PVP K/D counter
Advanced UI/Dark UI, or some UI hub if you want a new UI
Skyshards - shows all skyshards on map
Lore Books - Shows all lore books on map
Destinations - Shows uncharted areas that you have yet to do
pChat - Lets you copy chat
http://www.esoui.com/community.php
Documents\Elder Scrolls Online\live\AddOns
Drop the addon folder there.Edited by Casterial on June 12, 2018 3:36AMDaggerfall Covenant:Casterial Stamplar || Casterial DK || Availed NB || Castyrial Sorc || Spooky Casterial Necro
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srmalloy✭✭Doesn't matter how many "Classes" are in a game. There are always 3 archtypes. Tank, DD (melee/ranged), and Healer. With ESO. you're free to play any class in any of the roles.
Not always. City of Heroes had Crowd Control and Support as two additional archetypes, and it was hard to get a 'pure' healer, as all the classes had a mix of abilities -- the CC/Support 'Defender' class was slow to play solo because of limited damage output, but could tip fights in a group particularly well. And I haven't seen any other MMO that does a pet class like the Mastermind. But WoW essentially locked down the player roles for MMOs, the Holy Trinity of tank, DPS, and heal, and other MMOs have followed that pretty slavishly.
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LittlePinkDot✭✭✭✭✭It depends on your personal play style, but I prefer stamina classes. Ask yourself how much do sustain issues bother you?
Because magicka is hard to sustain without constantly doing heavy attacks. And in pvp magicka characters still have to worry about stamina, they still die without stamina.
I like my stam nightblade the best because I rarely have to ever worry about running out of stamina. That being said I feel like stamblade doesnt shine in pvp until they have very good gear. Unless they have the sheer damage to finish off the opponent, then theyll most likely die. I had a way easier time getting into pvp at a low level with a stamwarden, I followed alcasts stamwarden build.
You should probably excel faster than me, Ive been playing since October but I solo everything, still dont have a single person on friends list for this game.1 -
Cyngar✭LittlePinkDot wrote: »It depends on your personal play style, but I prefer stamina classes. Ask yourself how much do sustain issues bother you?
Because magicka is hard to sustain without constantly doing heavy attacks. And in pvp magicka characters still have to worry about stamina, they still die without stamina.
I like my stam nightblade the best because I rarely have to ever worry about running out of stamina. That being said I feel like stamblade doesnt shine in pvp until they have very good gear. Unless they have the sheer damage to finish off the opponent, then theyll most likely die. I had a way easier time getting into pvp at a low level with a stamwarden, I followed alcasts stamwarden build.
You should probably excel faster than me, Ive been playing since October but I solo everything, still dont have a single person on friends list for this game.
Ya after watching some other videos and people advice here, I have decided to roll a warden on PC and actually give it a shot. I think my issue was I expected to be better at lvl 10-20 than I was. now after trying 3 characters out on XB I fell the warden might be my best bet.
I'll be soloing it mostly until I get some friends etc as well. I'm on PC "dynatos" is my username if you want to add me. I'm super green 0 -
Varana✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I can certainly understand that feeling about Alcast and other build guides - half or more of the stuff he recommends as skills, you don't even have yet, and getting dropped sets under CP160 is more or less wasted time. Finding out what crafted sets are recommended, and getting someone to craft them, or doing it yourself once you have a crafting character, can be useful, though. Also, as a guide to where your priorities may go when allocating skill points.
Generally, even for lower levels, finding some friends to run in the under-50 PVP campaign can be quite fun. You will die a lot, so that's where the friends come in to make it fun nonetheless.
PVE is much easier to play solo as there is an overwhelming amount of questing and solo dungeoneering content that is not too hard, sparing you a lot of needless frustration (a.k.a. "overland is way too easy!!!!" among veteran players ). Edited by Varana on June 12, 2018 5:03PM1 -
Cyngar✭I can certainly understand that feeling about Alcast and other build guides - half or more of the stuff he recommends as skills, you don't even have yet, and getting dropped sets under CP160 is more or less wasted time. Finding out what crafted sets are recommended, and getting someone to craft them, or doing it yourself once you have a crafting character, can be useful, though. Also, as a guide to where your priorities may go when allocating skill points.
Generally, even for lower levels, finding some friends to run in the under-50 PVP campaign can be quite fun. You will die a lot, so that's where the friends come in to make it fun nonetheless. PVE is much easier to play solo as there is an overwhelming amount of questing and solo dungeoneering content that is not too hard, sparing you a lot of needless frustration (a.k.a. "overland is way too easy!!!!" among veteran players ).
@Varana Ya at least on XB doing campaign was hard with the way chat system works. now that I'm on PC I hope to just LFG as a noob and get in and figure it out. I have been trying to watch leveling guide/general guides that has really been helping and hope it makes it easier.0 -
beebay✭✭✭Try the stamina version of Warden but it really sounds like you want a magicka Templar. Each class has an it ton of options but Templar is very versatile.
You can always switch from magicka/stamina versions of each class with a lil bit of gold.
Swapping bars is here to stay so just learn to use it as an animation cancel. It’s really just another button press in your rotation.
I dad 5 kids from 10yrs to 6 months so believe me I know.1 -
Cyngar✭Try the stamina version of Warden but it really sounds like you want a magicka Templar. Each class has an it ton of options but Templar is very versatile.
You can always switch from magicka/stamina versions of each class with a lil bit of gold.
Swapping bars is here to stay so just learn to use it as an animation cancel. It’s really just another button press in your rotation.
I dad 5 kids from 10yrs to 6 months so believe me I know.
ya on PC now, so trying out the warden again. But templar was an option I considered as well, but seems less bursty and I prefer melee and most I saw was staff/1h/shield0 -
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✭✭JumpmanLane wrote: »If you want to be tanky with plenty of heals and deal damage magicka Dragonknight is a great class. Roll a dumner and go Vampire. If you’re on PC NA hit me up, I’ll give you a bite.
If you really want to just PvP grind out to level 50 at least, in order to really get a feel for your character.
Guides and builds online can help you get a feel for your class, skills, rotations etc but in time you’ll find that most of those builds are trash. Good luck.
@JumpmanLane Does Magicka DK use a staff or 2h? Also I'm downloading right now on PC do I just add "JumpmanLane" to FL?
Hey man yes, just add me. Yup use a staff not 2H for magicka DK. I leveled up Destro/Restro. Ran sword and board / sword and board for a bit. Now Destro Sword and board. Hit me up.
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✭✭Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »TheCyberDruid wrote: »
It def interests me alot when I check them out. I struggle that the popular build is 2h and not a dw, but that's me thinking NB is a rogue.
Any suggestions if summerset build/vids to watch?
2h has more "burst" damage than DW. That's why you see it in most PvP builds. It's also the easiest way to spot a PvPer in dungeons.
I think the real reason you see it is for snare removal. Forward Momentum is one of the most powerful PVP skills there is. Being able to remove snares is vital in open world PVP. Most magic specs run Vamp for mist form, and most stamina specs run 2H for forward momentum. In a group, you can get away without it if you have some spamming rapids.Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »If you are looking for a melee PVP build, warden would be near the top of my recommendations. The only stamina class I am really not a fan of in PVP is stam DK. They make great PVE damage dealers, but I feel like in PVP everything they do, someone else can do a bit better.
If your goal is to take a pounding, warden is very good. They get their kills by lining up burst combos, with sub assault at the center of it. If you are looking for a true brawler class, they are hard to beat.
I find stamina templars to be my toughest counter, personally. They have good pressure, can debuff you very well, and can purge negative effects, which really comes in handy 1v1. Stamplars are amazing in duels.
I think if you asked the internet who the most OP stam class is, the answer you would get would be stamina nightblade. They are elusive, and have great burst, but like any class, they have their counters. They dont have the healing of some of the other classes, so if you can catch one, you can usually kill one. I think nightblade (magic and stam) is the most well rounded class in the game.
For melee, you could also consider Magic DK or Magic Templar.
Magic DK is about pressure, CCs, and they can take a beating. They usually get kills by wearing down their opponents, and bursting with ultimates. Magplars arent as powerful as they once were, but if you have any thought to healing, its a solid choice.
Perhaps the bigger issue is your level. A level 22 character (of any class) is only going to have access to a handful of skills, and often the good ones dont come until later. Your character will feel very different once it is properly leveled. Regardless of what you choose, I would go all in on something until you get a few hundred CP under your belt before you roll a bunch of alts.
For the love of god, do not start spending AP on gear boxes at your level. You shouldnt spend anything on gear until you are at level 50, AND have 160 champion points. That is the gear cap. Once you are there, then you can comfortably invest in gear you know will last (at least until the next patch).
Edit: if you are on PC/NA, I would be happy to craft you some basic gear to help you get started. Just shoot me a message in game.
Sadly on xb for now. Might switch to pc once I have the time to get it back up and running properly.
I want to go all in on something and no alts for now. That's my plan for the warden but in just hating the class in pvp and dung. I'm not use to this 2 bar swap etc so it's throwing me off alot.
I considered a templar for dps/heals but not too sure and I made a stam nb and only like lvl 6.
At level 22, your options are wide open. You could make a new toon and be at 50 tomorrow if you put your mind to it. Not saying you necessarily should, but the point is that I wouldn't feel bound to a level 22 character.
I think you will feel more powerful on a NB a little sooner than on warden. You wont be bound to a 2H anymore than any other class. I would certainly recommend it at first, but NB can absolutely be played as a DW character in PVP. In PVE, everyone runs DW for what its worth..
Dude, I was gonna type all of that lol. Amen.
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✭✭Hey, Cyngar forget what folks tell you about class, as in this class is better than that class. It’s all about builds. Some guy somewhere who comes up with a great build, no matter the class will go out a wreck people. Lol.
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dtsharples✭✭✭✭✭Maybe try a Stamina Sorc - 2handed Melee.
And as for getting a feel of each class.
Maybe see if you can get access to the PTS still, you should be able to create a character at max level to try it out. (Maybe)0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭- With my limited playtime, I'm not sure how much time i need to invest into a character before I know I like them or not, whats a good lvl?
I don’t know if you can tell that you like a class by level alone, I think you need to unlock all the class skills first and run some content, like dungeons or PvP, to see if you like the abilities and how the class plays.- For class selection, can you give me some ideas? I guess I'll look at magika if I have to, but prefer melee based and not above rolling a healer that can do dmg and be annoying as hell to kill the same time. I was hoping for something that isn't a glass canon and good mobility. Open to try anything.
I would choose a magNB for a first character, if I was just starting to play. You said you’d prefer a stamina class, but I think magicka classes are easier to level, to learn the game and solo with. They can be played in melee range (in fact it is common to see dual wielding/2h magicka NBs in PvP), they have good mobility, and their cloaking makes it easy to level certain skill lines (Thieves guild/Dark Brotherhood), so it’s a great class for a first character, in my opinion.- Where is the best place to look up builds for summerset? when I google I see certain people pop up alot that are "popular" but the comments on them are either laughing or copy of other builds or the builds assume you are a veteran.
The AlcastHQ, or Tamriel Foundry websites both have a lot of build options. Then you can also look in the forum itself, or look up ESO streamers, as they usually release a lot of build videos, especially for PvP.
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JumpmanLane✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭- With my limited playtime, I'm not sure how much time i need to invest into a character before I know I like them or not, whats a good lvl?
I don’t know if you can tell that you like a class by level alone, I think you need to unlock all the class skills first and run some content, like dungeons or PvP, to see if you like the abilities and how the class plays.- For class selection, can you give me some ideas? I guess I'll look at magika if I have to, but prefer melee based and not above rolling a healer that can do dmg and be annoying as hell to kill the same time. I was hoping for something that isn't a glass canon and good mobility. Open to try anything.
I would choose a magNB for a first character, if I was just starting to play. You said you’d prefer a stamina class, but I think magicka classes are easier to level, to learn the game and solo with. They can be played in melee range (in fact it is common to see dual wielding/2h magicka NBs in PvP), they have good mobility, and their cloaking makes it easy to level certain skill lines (Thieves guild/Dark Brotherhood), so it’s a great class for a first character, in my opinion.- Where is the best place to look up builds for summerset? when I google I see certain people pop up alot that are "popular" but the comments on them are either laughing or copy of other builds or the builds assume you are a veteran.
The AlcastHQ, or Tamriel Foundry websites both have a lot of build options. Then you can also look in the forum itself, or look up ESO streamers, as they usually release a lot of build videos, especially for PvP.
Alcast has some great PvE builds. They’re THE meta for certain classes. As for PvP just go out to Vivec at level 10. Most of the really old players are actually really cool. Many will take the time and give you some really cool tips and build ideas that AREN’T meta because they’ll know you’re new. Well... after the kill you and farm you for AP.
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