Regardless of whether it is a child or not, this game has a mature rating for a reason.

The lore is dark in this world as it parallels our own flaws in society to help create a more realistic, engaging and traumatic experience for the player. This game describes people forced to do sexual things against their will, shows slavery, has sexual themed erotic books, murder, racism, the list goes on. If you don't like it, don't play it. I fell in love with the series because it has controversial lore and stories. It creates a more compelling and realistic environment and world.

Parents should always do their research before allowing their kid to play any game, especially a mature rated one. You cannot complain about the lore and theme of the world because you did not create it nor write it. The series wouldn't have done as well in my opinion if they hadn't made it such a dark and dangerous world.

In Skyrim there were plenty of orphans and child abuse that went on at the orphanage. Is it a sad thing? Most definitely it is and I hate to see it. However, once again, it is a dark world full of evil people just like our own and it creates an atmosphere of despair.

Again though as to the original post about the mail. Clearly the guy is an adult that lives with his mother. Does that make it any less of an atrocity depending on the situation? No, it doesn't. Abuse is abuse regardless of age. That doesn't mean it needs to be removed from the game and future content needs to be toned down for care bears.


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My point was that you're not supposed to like it or be okay with it. It's meant to upset your or strike a nerve inside you. That's what makes it a great story full of realistic themes. It's meant to jar your emotions and make you feel something. Removing things like this takes away from the game in my personal opinion. That doesn't not, however, mean that I condone this sort of thing in the real world. Discipline is one thing, abuse is another.

He's an Orc. A not too bright adult Orc. His wife hits him too and that makes him happy if you read his later letters.

SantieClaws wrote: »

The real tragedy here is yes is the mother whose years of love and affection have turned to endless frustration yes. Frustration that expressed itself in one small uncontrolled moment of minor domestic violence.

All her hard work and hopes for him, to be a great merchant, a great hero or even a reasonably successful accountant - yet still he lives at home.

Still she must cook for him and do his washing when she should be living her own life and going off picking flowers and drinking with her friends.

Ah yes it is the poor mother who is to be pitied here.

Yours with paws
Santie Claws

Actually this is realy sad because it's so true...

Lol who even reads those.

DanteYoda wrote: »

To be honest out of context that seriously does look like child abuse.. Even if its an adult its pretty poor sending a mail like that..

What if the player customer is also getting child abuse it could tip the customer over the edge tbh.. These devs should think before making crap like this..

This game is rated 18+ or am I wrong? Really, people are getting worried\offended by smallest things today, while ignoring real problems that exist in the world.

TES world was always on the fringe of dark fantasy (especially, when you get into the lore and start reading in-game literature). I suppose, there were few books in Morrowind describing child abuse and even death from first-person perspective.

It is good that authors manage to get emotion from players here. It means that people still care. Now bring that care into the real life, not some imagined world.

NoTimeToWait wrote: »

DanteYoda wrote: »

To be honest out of context that seriously does look like child abuse.. Even if its an adult its pretty poor sending a mail like that..

What if the player customer is also getting child abuse it could tip the customer over the edge tbh.. These devs should think before making crap like this..

This game is rated 18+ or am I wrong? Really, people are getting worried\offended by smallest things today, while ignoring real problems that exist in the world.

TES world was always on the fringe of dark fantasy (especially, when you get into the lore and start reading in-game literature). I suppose, there were few books in Morrowind describing child abuse and even death from first-person perspective.

It is good that authors manage to get emotion from players here. It means that people still care. Now bring that care into the real life, not some imagined world.

Here in Aus its rated M

Children under 15 may legally access this material because it is an advisory category. However, M classified films and computer games may include classifiable elements such as violence and nudity of moderate impact that are not recommended for children under 15 years.

Ajaxduo wrote: »

Suspend your disbelief. It’s a game. Otherwise the same logic would apply to many things ingrained into the lore. Racism to beast races, racism to non mer, etc etc. The dark and grit adds texture to the fantasy world, take too much out and involve irl politics and it becomes generic. No thanks.

Well said. There are many things in this game lore that can be considered offensive. Some people need to stop trying to be politically correct in a virtual world and stop picking and choosing what is offensive.

I also assumed the story was about an orc since I can see them acting this way with each other.

Forget the stories, hirelings.

Why don't you spill the secret on where you're picking up those improvement mats in the game world?

If you let me in on the secret, I will release you from your contract so you can go home to your family.

Don't sweat the mats. I've plenty of rocks, wood, and plants to keep me sustained for years to come.

Just ... the improvement mats. Those are why I hired you.

Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »

Okay, I changed my mind. This thread was really eye opening. I mean, what are we even doing? Last night I picked apart one of those last giants, just because I wanted his cheese. You know, the stuff that every chef sells for a few coins.

I tried to become a better man and worked on some plantages near mournhold, but seems like those guys where friends of said giant. They quickly stabbed me in the back. That was it for me. I killed them all. Not just the men. But the women and the nixhounds as well.

Obviously the guards thought this was a bad idea. I ran from them as well. Now hiding in some thieves den with shady convicts and a bounty on my head. I don't know if I will ever be able to look my mother in the eyes. I'm a sad ***, this game is to blame for my downfall

@Chilly-McFreeze , yes, but at least she doesn't beat you.

FFS, there's enough IRL things to be concerned about, reading something into a snippet of hireling mail doesn't rate very high on my list.

(FTR, if that makes me a bad person, I'm completely okay with that.)

Any one of you consider that it could have been nothing more than a light tap on the shoulder? Context... stop speculating.

I'm a little surprised no one has shown concern for this "child's" drinking problem.

Yes please I would like a watered down version of ESO where nobody does or says anything bad and everybody is just one big happy family. Instead of weapons and magic, everyone is equipped with kind words, hugs, and kisses; censored and consensual of course. There is no scoring, no currency, no race, no gender, no social status, no sexual orientation, no religion... The perfect world.

Also all the music should be John Lennon.

I agree, y’all have way too much time on your hands to think that hard on something like that in a video game of all places. Even a quick google search would bring up that its a full grown adult nord anyways.

Is the IRL thing attrocious? Yes.

Does this have any thing to do with it? Absolutely not.

I'm more shocked that people actually read those hireling missives. . .