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Class reps are all PC players
wozborne
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As if Zenimax couldn’t reiterate their “screw you” attitude to us console players enough, every single class rep is a PC player. Imagine if Miats was still around when this class rep system is introduced. It would be all the reps would complain about to the devs, even though it was only a problem that affected PC. Actual console problems would’ve gone completely ignored. It’s pretty sad ZoS couldn’t even throw 2/3rds of their player base a bone and give us just ONE class rep.
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Tandor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I imagine it would be difficult for a class rep not to have access to the PTS, but do we know if any of the class reps are dual-platform players?24 -
OGLezard✭✭✭✭✭
✭You are aware that you can submit issues to the reps and they WILL pass them along. Just because you dont have a console rep doesnt mean jack.
It's for CLASSES, to help balance and point out things that are over powered or under powered, used and unused.
So it doesnt matter if they are pc or not. I personally dont care and would choose to spew my anger in the crap serverdirection, not at some pointless class rep system.
End of the day they dont matter as zos will tune classes how they seem fit anyways35 -
pauli133✭✭✭✭✭
✭It seems intuitive to me that PC gives the developers infinitely more flexibility in how they build their tools to make the most of the class reps, and in which other tools they use to communicate and coordinate with them.10 -
TequilaFire✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭It isn't like console players don't have PCs and can't also use the forums.
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LjAnimalchin✭✭✭It's just a little harder for class reps to be on console I guess. Pc has access to so much more information. I know it really sucks to hear this, but I ended up swapping to pc as it felt like that's where the Devs focus was. Console seems like a casual focused afterthought nowadays in basically every game that is multi platform. Sucks but it is how it is. At least pc is cheaper than ever lol.4 -
Liofa✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I have 2 guesses why they chose only PC players is because we have access to PTS. Every quarter, all Reps will be able to test things and give feedback. They specifically mentioned that they want some feedback from us during the next PTS. Second is, we have access to addons. This helps a lot while testing things, especially Combat Metrics.
We created a lot of feedback threads in the forums. You don't even have to have a PC to post things here. We also created Discord servers and a feedback form. You can use all of them with your mobile. Many others did. We read through all of them and took into consideration. You can see that we actually listened to console only concerns if you read the Warden part of the Meeting Notes. My point is, console players mean a lot to us because your feedback will cover our lack of experience and awareness of bag things there. If you want your problems to be heard by Reps, take place in the feedback places I mentioned and let us know what your concerns are.19 -
idk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I would like to point out to @wozborne that Zos came to these forums for nominations for class reps.
Did @wozborne nominate anyone? If the answer is no then that is certainly part of the issue.
Does @wozborne know what Consoles representation is on these forums? While most of the polls here are entertainment value only, one poll sought to find out which platforms we were on. Seemed heavily PC which would mean Consoles are under-represented in the forums and would be another reason for the results.
It is rather irrelevant which platform they are from when seeking changes to how classes perform anyhow.11 -
Casterial✭✭✭✭✭
✭Do any of them PVP? I was looking through the class rep thread and it's hard to differentiate the PVE and PVP responses.
Also I mean pvp.. like really not run in 50 man zergs using 1 skill.Edited by Casterial on June 10, 2018 5:23PMDaggerfall Covenant:Casterial Stamplar || Casterial DK || Availed NB || Castyrial Sorc || Spooky Casterial Necro
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AlienatedGoat✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭They're called class representatives.
Not platform representatives.PC-NA Goat - Bleat Bleat Baaaa19 -
OGLezard✭✭✭✭✭
✭Do any of them PVP? I was looking through the class rep thread and it's hard to differentiate the PVE and PVP responses.
I know a few of them pvp, one of them is a good buddy, @Joy_Division he is into pvp a lot. Insanely good at it. Back in the day when I first met him he was teaching me things I didnt know, so it is promising to know that someone i know who is extremely helpful and knowledgable is a class rep.
-Gorthax
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Casterial✭✭✭✭✭
✭Do any of them PVP? I was looking through the class rep thread and it's hard to differentiate the PVE and PVP responses.
I know a few of them pvp, one of them is a good buddy, @Joy_Division he is into pvp a lot. Insanely good at it. Back in the day when I first met him he was teaching me things I didnt know, so it is promising to know that someone i know who is extremely helpful and knowledgable is a class rep.
-Gorthax
Glad to know Joy is one! I'm happy then. Thank you.Daggerfall Covenant:Casterial Stamplar || Casterial DK || Availed NB || Castyrial Sorc || Spooky Casterial Necro
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OGLezard✭✭✭✭✭
✭Do any of them PVP? I was looking through the class rep thread and it's hard to differentiate the PVE and PVP responses.
I know a few of them pvp, one of them is a good buddy, @Joy_Division he is into pvp a lot. Insanely good at it. Back in the day when I first met him he was teaching me things I didnt know, so it is promising to know that someone i know who is extremely helpful and knowledgable is a class rep.
-Gorthax
Glad to know Joy is one! I'm happy then. Thank you.
Yea when I seen joy on the list, I knew maybe zos wasnt just blowing smoke up our you know what.
He has some good knowledge and I seriously hope they take not just his, but every class reps feed back into serious consideration.
They want consumer trust back then listen to those deemed to be the voice of classes.
I'm sure none of them will steer us wrong as long as we give accurate and substantial feedback to be passed along and not the usual forum "buff me nerf them cuz X" nonsense.0 -
Taleof2Cities✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭As if Zenimax couldn’t reiterate their “screw you” attitude to us console players enough, every single class rep is a PC player. Imagine if Miats was still around when this class rep system is introduced. It would be all the reps would complain about to the devs, even though it was only a problem that affected PC. Actual console problems would’ve gone completely ignored. It’s pretty sad ZoS couldn’t even throw 2/3rds of their player base a bone and give us just ONE class rep.
Why didn't you step up and nominate yourself, @wozborne?
Even those with tin foil hats were eligible ...2 -
Gilvoth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭i just don't believe they share the same wants and interests and desires as we do in our classes.
im sorry.
Edited by Gilvoth on June 10, 2018 8:23PM5 -
Seraphayel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I mean honestly, what did you expect?
On console you can't test anything. And I say this as a console only player.PS5EUAldmeri Dominion- Khajiit Arcanist -6 -
Leandor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭There is very little visibility of console players putting the same amount of time and intellectual resources as those picked for class rep position. Not saying that there aren't any, just that if there are, they only have to blame themselves for not being visible enough on the official forums, you know, that place where people were voted on.
Also, this sounds like ranting for rants' sake. There's much worse issues on console than lacking a class rep. These technical issues (lag, freezes, crashes, stuttering, inability of console hardware to cope with large scale pvp, missing information due to lacking console UI and no addons...) would not be in the scope of a class rep anyways.
Now if they ever create a tech rep circle, then of course console participation would be absolutely required.Edited by Leandor on June 10, 2018 7:03PM1 -
IXxIronWolfxXI✭✭✭Can you give a good reason why console needs a class rep? It would make absolutely no difference, as others have also said console lacks many things which PC has.
If the game was different on both platforms, then it'd make sense. The class reps represent the entire community regardless of platform, them being primarily PC players has nothing to do with anything.
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Fur_like_snow✭✭✭✭✭
✭PC players have access to the PTS where not surprisingly the testing takes place for upcoming patches.
Besides do you really want someone who's brain is locked in 30fps to pass along information to the devs? 5 -
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Grand Master Crafter, Beta baby who grew with the game. PC/NA. @Sheezabeast if you have crafting needs!9 -
gabriebe✭✭✭✭✭Is there anyone on console that is over 18 though...Former Empresses: Saliva Bortschion (MagBlade), Janet From Finance (PvP MagSorc), Carla Swagan (Tank DK), Estelle Born (StamBlade), Enya Arsenal (MagPlar), Anita Nurse (Magplar Healer), Bearback Brigitte (Magden), Rachel Justice (MagDK), Nicole From Payroll (Stamden), Bailiff Belinda (PvE MagSorc), Féline Dion (StamDK), Septic Tank Tina (Necro Tank)
The runts: The Trolly Spirit (Tank Sorc), Floods-Your-Basement (Warden Healer) Dinah Asthma (Magcro), Total Top Tony (Stamcro)
The traitors: Janis Javelin (Stamplar, EP), Barbecue Becky (Magblade Healer, AD)
PvE: Gryphon Heart, Immortal Redeemer, Flawless Conqueror
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MLGProPlayer✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭This is a non-issue.
1. Mechanics are the same on both platforms
2. PC players get access to PTS
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Lucky28✭✭✭✭✭
✭It's because PC players have access to the PTS.
that's no doubt the biggest reason.Invictus2 -
GreenSoup2HoT✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭To be honest theres not to many console players that are active on the forums. Im one of the highest forum ranking console players and i still only play eso on a casual basis.
The rep's we got have done a lot of work for the community outside of the forums and game though guides or youtube channels.
Its not an issue imho.PS4 NA DC3 -
Jake1576✭✭✭✭✭As if Zenimax couldn’t reiterate their “screw you” attitude to us console players enough, every single class rep is a PC player. Imagine if Miats was still around when this class rep system is introduced. It would be all the reps would complain about to the devs, even though it was only a problem that affected PC. Actual console problems would’ve gone completely ignored. It’s pretty sad ZoS couldn’t even throw 2/3rds of their player base a bone and give us just ONE class rep.
This is what i was complaining about the first time i seen who was chosen for the reps it doesn't make any since to me if you ask me it just shows their favoritism even more towards pc players while we console players are peasants to themEdited by Jake1576 on June 10, 2018 11:12PM1
