PVP Tier List for 1vX Cyrodiil (Opinion)
Knowledge
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S Tier: Stamden, Stamblade
A Tier: Stamsorc, Magblade
B Tier: magsorc, Stamplar
C Tier: MagDK, StamDK
D Tier: MagDen, Magplar
EDIT 1: Adjusted Magplar to C Tier after careful consideration. A great group class but just not good for 1vX.
EDIT 2: Adjusted StamDK to C Tier.
Edited by Knowledge on June 22, 2018 12:55AM A Tier: Stamsorc, Magblade
B Tier: magsorc, Stamplar
C Tier: MagDK, StamDK
D Tier: MagDen, Magplar
EDIT 1: Adjusted Magplar to C Tier after careful consideration. A great group class but just not good for 1vX.
EDIT 2: Adjusted StamDK to C Tier.
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IZZEFlameLash✭✭✭✭✭
✭I'd put Magplar on the same level as mDK personally. But that is just me. Lol.Imperials, the one and true masters of all mortal races of Tamriel1 -
Knowledge✭✭✭✭✭
✭IZZEFlameLash wrote: »I'd put Magplar on the same level as mDK personally. But that is just me. Lol.
You're right I am going to adjust it.0 -
Master_Kas✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭How can magblade be on A tier and not magsorc?
Don't hang me forumsorcs
Other than that no comments.Edited by Master_Kas on June 10, 2018 7:33AMEU | PC14 -
Feanor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Master_Kas wrote: »How can magblade be on A tier and not magsorc?
Don't hang me forumsorcs
Other than that no comments.
The ability of magSorcs to 1vX is equivalent to the amount of potatoes in the area. Hence why there the best farm hands.
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Jimmy_The_Fixer✭✭✭✭✭Pretty accurate, except stamden is basically countered by a stam nightblade, and that's the most common class in cyrodiil by a hefty margin.
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Vapirko✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Master_Kas wrote: »How can magblade be on A tier and not magsorc?
Don't hang me forumsorcs
Other than that no comments.
The ability of magSorcs to 1vX is equivalent to the amount of potatoes in the area. Hence why there the best farm hands.
The ability of any class to 1vX is equivalent to the amount of potatoes. I haven’t seen anyone able to 1vX good players. At least not in recent Cyro. Not enough truly broken builds anymore. Can some people 1vX one decent player and a handful of potatoes, yeah sure in the right situation.Edited by Vapirko on June 10, 2018 8:03AM2 -
ak_pvp✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Pretty much my rankings too.
Magsorc would be higher if shields didn't melt when overwhelmed, both Magblade and Stamsorc have decent ways to mitigate damage that scales well against numbers. (Cloak and high mobility respectively.)
However Stamsorc has fairly limited burst, relying on the old dizzy>dawn combo. The bleed builds are so so for 1vX. So It'd be a toss-up for A/B tier.MagDK main. PC/EU @AK-ESO
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Beardimus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭What's S Tier mean? Stamina lol?Xbox One | EU | EP
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Knowledge✭✭✭✭✭
✭Master_Kas wrote: »How can magblade be on A tier and not magsorc?
Don't hang me forumsorcs
Other than that no comments.
The ability of magSorcs to 1vX is equivalent to the amount of potatoes in the area. Hence why there the best farm hands.
The ability of any class to 1vX is equivalent to the amount of potatoes. I haven’t seen anyone able to 1vX good players. At least not in recent Cyro. Not enough truly broken builds anymore. Can some people 1vX one decent player and a handful of potatoes, yeah sure in the right situation.
The rating system assumes that a player at max skill level is behind the keyboard. Assuming the player is as good as they could possibly be, based on my findings, I feel as though this is how the rankings would be in a 1vX scenario.0 -
CyrusArya✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭What's S Tier mean? Stamina lol?
In racing simulators, S-Tier are top shelf, high end supercars. Best of the best. Basically in a tier of their own. That being said, I do strongly believe certain sorc builds in the right hands belong in this tier, and in general sorc should be A at the lowest if we’re talking general solo PvP. While stamden and stamblade may be able to win certain fights sorc can’t, they also lose certain fights sorc won’t...if you know what I mean.5 -
Knowledge✭✭✭✭✭
✭What's S Tier mean? Stamina lol?
In racing simulators, S-Tier are top shelf, high end supercars. Best of the best. Basically in a tier of their own. That being said, I do strongly believe certain sorc builds in the right hands belong in this tier, and in general sorc should be A at the lowest if we’re talking general solo PvP. While stamden and stamblade may be able to win certain fights sorc can’t, they also lose certain fights sorc won’t...if you know what I mean.
Stamsorc is in A tier. Against a skilled player a magsorc will not have as much of a chance when facing some of the S tier or A tier rated specs.0 -
WreckfulAbandon✭✭✭✭✭
✭What's S Tier mean? Stamina lol?
In racing simulators, S-Tier are top shelf, high end supercars. Best of the best. Basically in a tier of their own. That being said, I do strongly believe certain sorc builds in the right hands belong in this tier, and in general sorc should be A at the lowest if we’re talking general solo PvP. While stamden and stamblade may be able to win certain fights sorc can’t, they also lose certain fights sorc won’t...if you know what I mean.
Stamsorc is in A tier. Against a skilled player a magsorc will not have as much of a chance when facing some of the S tier or A tier rated specs.
Stamden > magsorc, stamblade > stamden, magsorc > stamblade. Around and around it goes. Generally speaking and duel-specific builds aside.(1v1 open world builds)PC NA
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CyrusArya✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Stamsorc is in A tier. Against a skilled player a magsorc will not have as much of a chance when facing some of the S tier or A tier rated specs.
Skilled players are not getting 1vXed regardless...
Sorc may struggle against wardens, but your run of the mill stamblade is one of the easiest kills for mag sorcs, so I don’t agree with that logic. I don’t think Sorc should be ranked that low personally. Especially not this patch of all patches.6 -
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✭✭You should switch magdk and stamplar with each other.
Stamplar is Awesome for small scale but can't compete in 1vX because you need a long offensive window to apply your full burst which isn't something you have access to in 1vX.
Magdk however is a great toddler smacker, you have access to many AoEs and Dots, the typical 1vX Backgroundartist doesn't understand that he has to heal himself rather than tryharding that solo player. Magdk can then unleash good burst without needing a lot of time to prepare for it.
The incombat efficency of magdks is great the issue they face in 1vX is that they have very poor kiting abilities which makes them vulnerable to being locked down and makes it harder to find the right place to do 1vX7 -
Knowledge✭✭✭✭✭
✭Stamsorc is in A tier. Against a skilled player a magsorc will not have as much of a chance when facing some of the S tier or A tier rated specs.
Skilled players are not getting 1vXed regardless...
Sorc may struggle against wardens, but your run of the mill stamblade is one of the easiest kills for mag sorcs, so I don’t agree with that logic. I don’t think Sorc should be ranked that low personally. Especially not this patch of all patches.
Remember, this ranking system assumes that the player is at max capability and far from your "run of the mill" stamblade.0 -
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✭✭✭✭Stam NBs, top tier. In the sload meta?
Something tells me you haven't entered Cyrodiil this patch.
Don't get me wrong, I do think they're still the easiest class to play, but they're far from "top tier" when you compare a good player to a good player of another class.
I'd say mSorc, stamden & mDK are much closer to "top tier" this patch when piloted by a good player.Edited by DDuke on June 10, 2018 10:52AM7 -
Knowledge✭✭✭✭✭
✭Stam NBs, top tier. In the sload meta?
Something tells me you haven't entered Cyrodiil this patch.
Don't get me wrong, I do think they're still the easiest class to play, but they're far from "top tier" when you compare a good player to a good player of another class.
I'd say mSorc, stamden & mDK are much closer to "top tier" this patch when piloted by a good player.
MagDK still has sustain issues and mobility issues. It's a juggling act to work sustain, damage, and mobility into the class with non class skills, consumables, or glyphs.
Sload's is not as powerful as you think.1 -
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✭✭1vx should not be a thing, means balance is broken
If nothing but how many players are on each group counts, then this means the only reasonable way to win is to have more players than your enemy.
Would be arguably the most boring balance one can possibly think of.PC EU - Zahraji of the Void, aka "Kitty", the fluffiest salmon genocider in town.
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DDuke✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Stam NBs, top tier. In the sload meta?
Something tells me you haven't entered Cyrodiil this patch.
Don't get me wrong, I do think they're still the easiest class to play, but they're far from "top tier" when you compare a good player to a good player of another class.
I'd say mSorc, stamden & mDK are much closer to "top tier" this patch when piloted by a good player.
MagDK still has sustain issues and mobility issues. It's a juggling act to work sustain, damage, and mobility into the class with non class skills, consumables, or glyphs.
Sload's is not as powerful as you think.
Sload is every bit as powerful as I think.
It passively disables the most important tool in a NBs arsenal while also outdamaging 50%'ish of another important defensive tool stamblades have (Vigor).5 -
Beardimus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Stamsorc is in A tier. Against a skilled player a magsorc will not have as much of a chance when facing some of the S tier or A tier rated specs.
Skilled players are not getting 1vXed regardless...
Sorc may struggle against wardens, but your run of the mill stamblade is one of the easiest kills for mag sorcs, so I don’t agree with that logic. I don’t think Sorc should be ranked that low personally. Especially not this patch of all patches.
Remember, this ranking system assumes that the player is at max capability and far from your "run of the mill" stamblade.
Does this table assume anything about the X skill set?
As most 1vX are against varying levels of X skill.
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Master_Kas✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Master_Kas wrote: »How can magblade be on A tier and not magsorc?
Don't hang me forumsorcs
Other than that no comments.
The ability of magSorcs to 1vX is equivalent to the amount of potatoes in the area. Hence why there the best farm hands.
I'd say thats true for every class tough.
Nvm.Pretty much my rankings too.
Magsorc would be higher if shields didn't melt when overwhelmed, both Magblade and Stamsorc have decent ways to mitigate damage that scales well against numbers. (Cloak and high mobility respectively.)
However Stamsorc has fairly limited burst, relying on the old dizzy>dawn combo. The bleed builds are so so for 1vX. So It'd be a toss-up for A/B tier.
Magblades also melt when they get overwhelmed. Specially this patch with everyone and their mother running sloads breaking cloak (Vivec). Unless you mean staying permacloaked and not engaging at all.
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moosegod✭✭✭1vX is dead, you're not going to kill a group of players by yourself if they have even the slightest clue what they're doing. 1vX is only possible against a group who have just entered Cyrodiil for the first time. Any group with a bit of experience and proper builds will not go down to a stamblade anymore, especially with the nerf to NB healing and addition of sload and new rune cage.1 -
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✭Thirsty good players can be susceptible to getting 1vxed, think they have the advantage than get hit with an ult off guard, dead.
As for 1vx being dead, it’s most certainly it’s just more annoying but it has always been annoying to attempt to pull off. Small scale and 1vx is alive and well. Whether someone knows what they’re doing is purely subjective as well. An average player can be seen as a potato to someone else.1 -
Vapirko✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Master_Kas wrote: »How can magblade be on A tier and not magsorc?
Don't hang me forumsorcs
Other than that no comments.
The ability of magSorcs to 1vX is equivalent to the amount of potatoes in the area. Hence why there the best farm hands.
The ability of any class to 1vX is equivalent to the amount of potatoes. I haven’t seen anyone able to 1vX good players. At least not in recent Cyro. Not enough truly broken builds anymore. Can some people 1vX one decent player and a handful of potatoes, yeah sure in the right situation.
The rating system assumes that a player at max skill level is behind the keyboard. Assuming the player is as good as they could possibly be, based on my findings, I feel as though this is how the rankings would be in a 1vX scenario.
I think I’d put stamplar and stamsorc in the same tier for different reasons. Stamsorc for its tankiness due to hurricane and crit surge but lack of class skills and having to choose between great regen and a big stam pool thanks to bound armaments but a lack of skill slots or generally bad stam pool/regen and extra skill slots without BA. And stamplar for great class skills particularly how good pol and jabs is at packing people up, but difficulty with sustain and the awkwardness of resistance buffs.Edited by Vapirko on June 10, 2018 2:06PM2 -
CrazYDunm3r✭✭✭✭In my opinion a 1vX is not multiple 1v1's as I see often on YouTube for example. I would say a MagDK (especially on no CP) is A tier.YouTube
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✭For 1vX I would put all Stam classes and mag sorc higher than the other 4 Magicka builds. With probably Stamden number 1 followed by stamblade and mag sorc. Then Stam dk, Stam sorc and stamplar all being about even. And then the other 4 Magicka classes are all pretty much even with magplar probably being the worseEdited by thankyourat on June 10, 2018 2:11PM5
