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Someone in ZoS or Bethesda knows Vampire\Werewolf Psychology

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Vampires and werewolfs were in some legends the same thing. Vampires and werewolfs were often based off outcasts of society being blamed when they were innocent because they just were different. A huge thing you rarely will hear about which is scientific fact is that humanity was prey and evolved because it had to or die. Humans became one of the top predators because like all energy based life it must consume and conquer other life for some stability and calmness you could say from ancient predators. Now fastforward ( Even though time is an illusion which is different than the breakdown of energy ), anyway fastforward and you realize humans start abusing and neglecting their own children and sometimes they can become withdrawn but those severely abused by humanity have their brain change to where humans are seen as potential prey and are seen as weaker and even less intelligent. To some it seems odd but from the Psychology the brain does what humans did to their environment as in they have to evolve to survive but now the environment for this individual is other humans as the enemy instead of ancient predators/animals/plants. So the brain of a very young abused individual sometimes brain chemistry will change and try to adapt to an environment where humans are evil and corrupt so they sometimes don't control themselves and attack innocent people which can be translated to more feral aka bloodfiends if refering to ingame reference. Anyway the Lamae story in ESO does a version of this in its own way in that Lamae was the ultimate prey and was "turned" aka forcing her in her mind to be strong and now is not the victim anymore but the super predator. I am not a doctor or licensed psychologist but I know things and the origin of Vampire and Werewolfs are thousands upon thousands of years old and come from human psychology. Some people are born different while others are molded but evolution which has been witnessed in human life times shows how animals have parts of them changing size or completely dissapearing as for example in some parts of the United States rattlesnakes now are born without rattles often and in some places not at all. This is just one example of many. Anyway as said before nurture and nature are very connected and serial killers, most human predators are created by humanity be it born or molded. It is nice to see someone working on this game knows about dark psychology and am sorry if that individual was abused themselves or abandoned when young for them to aquire this dark reality and knowledge or maybe it was just found because the individuals were intelligent/logical. I like to clarify I don't condone the harming of any innocents, especially children or anyone but wanted this post to show the hard work that clearly had gone into this game and it is deeper than most give it credit. It is a living type world with so many options to do what you want and explore a beautiful world that has references and psychology of many things.
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    What?
    Edited by Aliyavana on June 9, 2018 11:05PM
  • devilsTear
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    BloodStorm wrote: »
    Vampires and werewolfs were in some legends the same thing. Vampires and werewolfs were often based off outcasts of society being blamed when they were innocent because they just were different. A huge thing you rarely will hear about which is scientific fact is that humanity was prey and evolved because it had to or die. Humans became one of the top predators because like all energy based life it must consume and conquer other life for some stability and calmness you could say from ancient predators. Now fastforward ( Even though time is an illusion which is different than the breakdown of energy ), anyway fastforward and you realize humans start abusing and neglecting their own children and sometimes they can become withdrawn but those severely abused by humanity have their brain change to where humans are seen as potential prey and are seen as weaker and even less intelligent. To some it seems odd but from the Psychology the brain does what humans did to their environment as in they have to evolve to survive but now the environment for this individual is other humans as the enemy instead of ancient predators/animals/plants. So the brain of a very young abused individual sometimes brain chemistry will change and try to adapt to an environment where humans are evil and corrupt so they sometimes don't control themselves and attack innocent people which can be translated to more feral aka bloodfiends if refering to ingame reference. Anyway the Lamae story in ESO does a version of this in its own way in that Lamae was the ultimate prey and was "turned" aka forcing her in her mind to be strong and now is not the victim anymore but the super predator. I am not a doctor or licensed psychologist but I know things and the origin of Vampire and Werewolfs are thousands upon thousands of years old and come from human psychology. Some people are born different while others are molded but evolution which has been witnessed in human life times shows how animals have parts of them changing size or completely dissapearing as for example in some parts of the United States rattlesnakes now are born without rattles often and in some places not at all. This is just one example of many. Anyway as said before nurture and nature are very connected and serial killers, most human predators are created by humanity be it born or molded. It is nice to see someone working on this game knows about dark psychology and am sorry if that individual was abused themselves or abandoned when young for them to aquire this dark reality and knowledge or maybe it was just found because the individuals were intelligent/logical. I like to clarify I don't condone the harming of any innocents, especially children or anyone but wanted this post to show the hard work that clearly had gone into this game and it is deeper than most give it credit. It is a living type world with so many options to do what you want and explore a beautiful world that has references and psychology of many things.

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    Wow. You've gone full ideologue.

    Sometimes stuff is just fantasy dude.
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    Edited by AnviOfVai on June 10, 2018 12:08AM
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  • Mettaricana
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    Didnt finish reading but I'll say it...

    "What"
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    AnviOfVai wrote: »
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    Agreed Dean Winchester and he would know the most about vampires and werewolves.

    But seriously, OP, what on Earth are you on? And please use the 'Enter' key when making huge posts.
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  • mesmerizedish
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    Actually, vampires and werewolves aren't real.

    It's really important to me that you understand this.
  • AuldWolf
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    Sometimes stuff is just fantasy dude.
    I don't agree with all that the OP lays down by the argument that '[x] is just [y]' has always been nonsensical. Nothing is just something, a thing has a nature, and it is that way for a reason defined by nature or the mind of the creator (when speaking of fictional works). To think that [x] is just [y] is hedonistic in its lack of logic. Everything deserves analysis, it's the very basis of erudition. If we ever believed [x] is just [y] about anything, we would never have bothered with that whole science thing we're all quite excited about.
  • mwo1480
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    BloodStorm wrote: »
    Vampires and werewolfs were in some legends the same thing. Vampires and werewolfs were often based off outcasts of society being blamed when they were innocent because they just were different. A huge thing you rarely will hear about which is scientific fact is that humanity was prey and evolved because it had to or die. Humans became one of the top predators because like all energy based life it must consume and conquer other life for some stability and calmness you could say from ancient predators. Now fastforward ( Even though time is an illusion which is different than the breakdown of energy ), anyway fastforward and you realize humans start abusing and neglecting their own children and sometimes they can become withdrawn but those severely abused by humanity have their brain change to where humans are seen as potential prey and are seen as weaker and even less intelligent. To some it seems odd but from the Psychology the brain does what humans did to their environment as in they have to evolve to survive but now the environment for this individual is other humans as the enemy instead of ancient predators/animals/plants. So the brain of a very young abused individual sometimes brain chemistry will change and try to adapt to an environment where humans are evil and corrupt so they sometimes don't control themselves and attack innocent people which can be translated to more feral aka bloodfiends if refering to ingame reference. Anyway the Lamae story in ESO does a version of this in its own way in that Lamae was the ultimate prey and was "turned" aka forcing her in her mind to be strong and now is not the victim anymore but the super predator. I am not a doctor or licensed psychologist but I know things and the origin of Vampire and Werewolfs are thousands upon thousands of years old and come from human psychology. Some people are born different while others are molded but evolution which has been witnessed in human life times shows how animals have parts of them changing size or completely dissapearing as for example in some parts of the United States rattlesnakes now are born without rattles often and in some places not at all. This is just one example of many. Anyway as said before nurture and nature are very connected and serial killers, most human predators are created by humanity be it born or molded. It is nice to see someone working on this game knows about dark psychology and am sorry if that individual was abused themselves or abandoned when young for them to aquire this dark reality and knowledge or maybe it was just found because the individuals were intelligent/logical. I like to clarify I don't condone the harming of any innocents, especially children or anyone but wanted this post to show the hard work that clearly had gone into this game and it is deeper than most give it credit. It is a living type world with so many options to do what you want and explore a beautiful world that has references and psychology of many things.

    while u might be right in some extend, i will ask u one thing

    have u ever played an TES game??

    cuz here is the problem ...nirn is in a fantasy universe (so far u peasants know), in the game lore vampires and werewolf are here created in other ways then earth ones (for exemple they dont sparkle) the ww and vamps here have their own lore created by the lore desingers and do not have to fit with the ones from our world. whats next ? complaining about how the draughr dont feel like earth ones, or how the nords dont act like vikings,

    btw vampire lore is only a couple hundred years old in our world, Medieval european lore if i remember correct,
    and werewolfs from middle ages europe (11th century germany was it?)
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    Umm... I disagree
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    I have two questions:

    1. WTF are you smoking?

    2. Have you ever heard of paragraphs?
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  • Wrecking_Blow_Spam
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    I had to give an awesome to you!

    I don't want no trouble or anything but just wanted to say that post genuinely made me smile :)
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  • bloodthirstyvampire
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    The term vampire It's self Isn't even thousands of years old 18th century at best, tho concept was accredited to demons and evil spirits.
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    That's creepy
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  • Shezzarrine
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    Sure you can analyze them, I'm sure there are points that are worthwhile. But you seem to have a hard time drawing the line between reality and the game. These werewolves and vampires are vastly different and have vastly different origins than standard myths/legends/fantasy tropes. So no, your post has nothing to do with the curses in the Elder Scrolls universe.
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    BloodStorm wrote: »
    Vampires and werewolfs were in some legends the same thing. Vampires and werewolfs were often based off outcasts of society being blamed when they were innocent because they just were different. A huge thing you rarely will hear about which is scientific fact is that humanity was prey and evolved because it had to or die.

    Humans became one of the top predators because like all energy based life it must consume and conquer other life for some stability and calmness you could say from ancient predators.
    Now fastforward ( Even though time is an illusion which is different than the breakdown of energy ), anyway fastforward and you realize humans start abusing and neglecting their own children and sometimes they can become withdrawn but those severely abused by humanity have their brain change to where humans are seen as potential prey and are seen as weaker and even less intelligent.

    To some it seems odd but from the Psychology the brain does what humans did to their environment as in they have to evolve to survive but now the environment for this individual is other humans as the enemy instead of ancient predators/animals/plants. So the brain of a very young abused individual sometimes brain chemistry will change and try to adapt to an environment where humans are evil and corrupt so they sometimes don't control themselves and attack innocent people which can be translated to more feral aka bloodfiends if refering to ingame reference.

    Anyway the Lamae story in ESO does a version of this in its own way in that Lamae was the ultimate prey and was "turned" aka forcing her in her mind to be strong and now is not the victim anymore but the super predator. I am not a doctor or licensed psychologist but I know things and the origin of Vampire and Werewolfs are thousands upon thousands of years old and come from human psychology.
    Some people are born different while others are molded but evolution which has been witnessed in human life times shows how animals have parts of them changing size or completely dissapearing as for example in some parts of the United States rattlesnakes now are born without rattles often and in some places not at all. This is just one example of many.

    Anyway as said before nurture and nature are very connected and serial killers, most human predators are created by humanity be it born or molded.
    It is nice to see someone working on this game knows about dark psychology and am sorry if that individual was abused themselves or abandoned when young for them to aquire this dark reality and knowledge or maybe it was just found because the individuals were intelligent/logical.

    I like to clarify I don't condone the harming of any innocents, especially children or anyone but wanted this post to show the hard work that clearly had gone into this game and it is deeper than most give it credit. It is a living type world with so many options to do what you want and explore a beautiful world that has references and psychology of many things.

    Edited and separated for everyone trying to read this post.
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    Take a breath!
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    BloodStorm wrote: »
    Vampires and werewolfs were in some legends the same thing. Vampires and werewolfs were often based off outcasts of society being blamed when they were innocent because they just were different. A huge thing you rarely will hear about which is scientific fact is that humanity was prey and evolved because it had to or die. Humans became one of the top predators because like all energy based life it must consume and conquer other life for some stability and calmness you could say from ancient predators. Now fastforward ( Even though time is an illusion which is different than the breakdown of energy ), anyway fastforward and you realize humans start abusing and neglecting their own children and sometimes they can become withdrawn but those severely abused by humanity have their brain change to where humans are seen as potential prey and are seen as weaker and even less intelligent. To some it seems odd but from the Psychology the brain does what humans did to their environment as in they have to evolve to survive but now the environment for this individual is other humans as the enemy instead of ancient predators/animals/plants. So the brain of a very young abused individual sometimes brain chemistry will change and try to adapt to an environment where humans are evil and corrupt so they sometimes don't control themselves and attack innocent people which can be translated to more feral aka bloodfiends if refering to ingame reference. Anyway the Lamae story in ESO does a version of this in its own way in that Lamae was the ultimate prey and was "turned" aka forcing her in her mind to be strong and now is not the victim anymore but the super predator. I am not a doctor or licensed psychologist but I know things and the origin of Vampire and Werewolfs are thousands upon thousands of years old and come from human psychology. Some people are born different while others are molded but evolution which has been witnessed in human life times shows how animals have parts of them changing size or completely dissapearing as for example in some parts of the United States rattlesnakes now are born without rattles often and in some places not at all. This is just one example of many. Anyway as said before nurture and nature are very connected and serial killers, most human predators are created by humanity be it born or molded. It is nice to see someone working on this game knows about dark psychology and am sorry if that individual was abused themselves or abandoned when young for them to aquire this dark reality and knowledge or maybe it was just found because the individuals were intelligent/logical. I like to clarify I don't condone the harming of any innocents, especially children or anyone but wanted this post to show the hard work that clearly had gone into this game and it is deeper than most give it credit. It is a living type world with so many options to do what you want and explore a beautiful world that has references and psychology of many things.

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    this is great.
  • SilverIce58
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    Seeing as how nobody's said it yet. In b4 lock. Also, no tldr? Really? Do you hate us?
    Edited by SilverIce58 on June 10, 2018 2:13AM
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    Ok wow..


    https://www.history.com/topics/vampire-history
    https://www.history.com/topics/history-of-the-werewolf-legend


    And your post crits eyes for Sloads damage at the same time..
    Edited by DanteYoda on June 10, 2018 2:21AM
  • BloodStorm
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    Great Gifs. Hilarious.
    Edited by BloodStorm on June 10, 2018 7:39AM
  • JaZ2091
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    I feel like you been holding that in for some time and wanted to share with the world, lol.
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