Pre Order Gear in Crown Store

smacky · June 2018

I did not pre-order Morrowind, though I did buy the upgrade about a year ago.

My point is, that I am not affected by this, but I think it is a little insulting to those who did pre-order, that they laid their money down early for something, and now people can buy it in the crown store.

You don;t have to hbuy the crowns, you just save your eso plus monthly ones and get the same bonuses, including crates and all.

This kind of undermines the whole idea of pre-oordering if you are going to put the stuff in the store later one anyway.

Sure peoiple will say, well they got to use the stuff for all that extra time, but at the end of the day, if I know I can just save my crowns, I already have all the stuff I need crowns to buy, then I can get the pre-order bonuses later.

Point is, I think it is a little insulting to those who paid extra and pre-ordered for exclusive pre-order bonuses.

I'm just curious what others think about it.

adriant1978 · June 2018

They got the stuff, they enjoyed the stuff for about a year, now it's time to let other paying customers enjoy the stuff too.

Permanently locking things like this away behind "right time, right place" requirements is a great way to make new players feel unwelcome and I'm glad ESO is not going down that route.

smacky · June 2018

adriant1978 wrote: »

They got the stuff, they enjoyed the stuff for about a year, now it's time to let other paying customers enjoy the stuff too.

Permanently locking things like this away behind "right time, right place" requirements is a great way to make new players feel unwelcome and I'm glad ESO is not going down that route.

I kind of agree with you, but when you pre-order, you are getting "exclusive" gear, it';s kinda the whole point IMO.

That saiid, I don;t have an issue with the Warden class being sold, as that is not a cosmetic, which is essentially what the pre-order gear is.

Blutengel · June 2018

Well I'm happy because my friends who returned to the game can now get these cool items if they so choose and it's been over a year since Morrowind , we all got to show off all our cool pre order bonuses and what-nots this whole time ..so I say share the wealth. I ALWAYS feel bad when a new player just joining the game wants a mount or pet and there is no longer anyway for they to get it.

Now being an active player would you really have not got the expansion for over a year just because you could save crowns at that moment?

BozzyTheDrummer · June 2018

I paid for the digital upgrade last year, for Morrowind. I don't think this is insulting. Morrowind will be available in the crown store as Summerset is now released. This will happen next year most likely, once the third chapter is released, Summerset will be moved to the crown store.

I think it's fine that people who didn't originally pre-order Morrowind at launch, get the chance to enjoy it by purchasing through the crown store. I also think it's fine if they buy it with saved up crowns, I mean that is a benefit of subbing monthly, is it not? People may not want to pre-order, or may be in a situation that they can't, some may want to, but forget. So now they get a chance to enjoy it from the crown store. That's how I look at it.

smacky · June 2018

Blutengel wrote: »

Well I'm happy because my friends who returned to the game can now get these cool items if they so choose and it's been over a year since Morrowind , we all got to show off all our cool pre order bonuses and what-nots this whole time ..so I say share the wealth. I ALWAYS feel bad when a new player just joining the game wants a mount or pet and there is no longer anyway for they to get it.

Now being an active player would you really have not got the expansion for over a year just because you could save crowns at that moment?

The pre-order bonus does NOT include the expansion. It is only the cosmetics.

And as I stated, I did buy the upgrade to Morrowind.

adriant1978 · June 2018

smacky wrote: »

when you pre-order, you are getting "exclusive" gear, it';s kinda the whole point IMO.

I do understand that too, and maybe only a year is too soon, but I definitely think it shouldn't remain "exclusive for all time" and the preserve of a dwindling group of older players who happened to be around when a certain bonus offer was up.

Played ESO since launch but I've seen this from the other side in SWTOR, which my girlfriend and I came to comparatively late in 2016, and we were pretty disappointed at the large number of "exclusive" things which we'd never be able to get simply because we weren't playing when they were released.

Acrolas · June 2018

smacky wrote: »

Point is, I think it is a little insulting to those who paid extra and pre-ordered for exclusive pre-order bonuses.

The collector's version always included all those items, no matter when you purchased that edition of Morrowind.
The only condition was with the standard version. You had to order that before June 6 to receive the Discovery Pack's additional items.

https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-gb/news/post/25909
(edition chart for reference)

DaveMoeDee · June 2018

Everything is insulting to very sensitive people.

Exclusivity is often time bound. How often do we see console "exclusives" only last for one or two months?

Can we have a PSA for people who are confused? Prices and availability now may change in the future.

JaZ2091 · June 2018

I didn't spend extra money on the Pre-Order bonus so I don't know what you're on about. The digital upgrade collectors edition is $40 regardless, the only difference is getting The Queens Bounty Pack if you buy before release.

smacky · June 2018

Acrolas wrote: »

smacky wrote: »

Point is, I think it is a little insulting to those who paid extra and pre-ordered for exclusive pre-order bonuses.

The collector's version always included all those items, no matter when you purchased that edition of Morrowind.
The only condition was with the standard version. You had to order that before June 6 to receive the Discovery Pack's additional items.

https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-gb/news/post/25909
(edition chart for reference)

Thanks for the clarificaition on that.

I guess that make it a moot point to argue then

smacky · June 2018

DaveMoeDee wrote: »

Everything is insulting to very sensitive people.

Exclusivity is often time bound. How often do we see console "exclusives" only last for one or two months?

Can we have a PSA for people who are confused? Prices and availability now may change in the future.

Not everything is insulting to me, only the sale of pre-order items after the fact.

That said, it has already been clarified that this wasn;t a pre-order bonus, and I have acknowledged that it is therefore a moot point.

You comment however fails to contribute to the conversation except to be inflamatory, so please keep opinions like that to yourself as per the forums rules.

Numerikuu · June 2018

Pre-ordered Morrowind and I honestly do not care. The whole "nernernernenrner I have this cosmetic and you don't" mentality in MMO's is very childish. If anything I'm glad they're selling these things, because now my friends can /kissthis back at me

At the time of the pre-order people may have missed out due to financial reasons or otherwise, so giving them a chance to get something they missed out on is neat.

In the end it's just a game and nobody cares if you have that Dwarven Warhorse. Let others have fun~

DaveMoeDee · June 2018

What is insulting to me is those crappy treasure maps that purposefully don't include set items.

Numerikuu · June 2018

DaveMoeDee wrote: »

What is insulting to me is those crappy treasure maps that purposefully don't include set items.

A very, very big 'Agree' for that.

Please...please stop including them and just...remove them already...or have them act like treasure maps found in game.

Argruna · June 2018

I do hope you noticed and saw that everything is separate. They can get the zone, but they can't get the class or the collectibles. They can get the class, but not the zone or the collectibles. They can get the collectibles but not the class or the zone.

If you had bothered to do your math, that's 7,100 crowns to get all 3. Morrowind is 3,500, collectibles is 2,100 and the class is 1,500. That's about $65 to get everything if you buy the crowns. I spent less than half that to buy Morrowind and get everything. Gotta love the price plunge before Summerset came up.

To further add, your pre-order was the exclusive mount, just like the new fire senche mount is now no longer available for the pre-order. That was the exclusive, not the trinkets included in the collector's edition.

JKorr · June 2018

I don't feel insulted. I paid to get the game early, and got to play it for a year. The "extras" that came with the preorder are just that; extras.

I wouldn't mind if they "recycled" mounts and costumes/items in the crown store, either. People should have a chance to buy specific items they want instead of relying on the beneficence of the rng gremlins and crown crates to get them.

I wouldn't even mind if they brought back loyalty rewards, and other subscribers got a tiger mount after the appropriate time period.

The only thing I would really dislike is if they ever *sold* or added the loyalty tiger to the crown crates.

Danikat · June 2018

I pre-ordered the Collectors Edition of Morrowind and I'm absolutely fine with it being in the crown store. I bought it because I liked the items and wanted them, not because I imagined that someone else who couldn't get them might be jealous or impressed that I had them. So other people having them has no impact on me, and I'm happy that people who want them can still get them.

It might affect how I approach future expansions - if I'm not interested in some aspects I might wait until it's in the crown store so I have more flexibility to choose what to buy. But that's the only way this affects me.

Maryanne · June 2018

Numerikuu wrote: »

The whole "nernernernenrner I have this cosmetic and you don't" mentality in MMO's is very childish.

Exactly.

Whiphid · June 2018

When can we get the Beta test monkey then?

jedtb16_ESO · June 2018

not bothered by it at all.

VexingArcanist · June 2018

They disassembled the parts and made Morrowind a DLC. They are profitting off this decision, which is what they should do to help keep the game progressing further without leaving peeps behind that jump in with Summerset.

I did not preorder Morrowind nor get the goodies package, however I have always wanted the Warden outfit. Sadly I can't justify 2100 crowns for it. Thats just me.

Adernath · June 2018

adriant1978 wrote: »

They got the stuff, they enjoyed the stuff for about a year, now it's time to let other paying customers enjoy the stuff too.

Permanently locking things like this away behind "right time, right place" requirements is a great way to make new players feel unwelcome and I'm glad ESO is not going down that route.

Completely disagree with what you said. 'Exclusive' should mean what it means: If you are too late to the party then you should be locked out. Similar stuff made WoW awesome, where you can have a mount, pet, have certain gear or titles which later on can not be obtained anymore.

The only thing which seems to be exclusive here is your character name, the dates when you did your achievements and the pets from the early days of subscription. I find this rather sad.

The game needs more exclusive stuff. For example to create titles to honor old veteran players.