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What class is better suited for 2h NB or Sorc?

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MalsvirIxen
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Topic says it all.
  • RinaldoGandolphi
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    NB

    Nightblade is better in every role pretty much. Great passives, cheap hard hitting ults, great utility skills. Can’t really go wrong. NB are great for all content.

    Go with the nightblade, trust me.
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    Sorcerer's - The ONLY class in the game that is punished for using its class defining skill (Bolt Escape)

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  • Xvorg
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    Depends on what you want to do and how. NB has great passive sthat help you a lot but on the other hand they do have the stam gap closer and spammable that Sorcs lack and that 2h grants
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  • MalsvirIxen
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    Xvorg wrote: »
    Depends on what you want to do and how. NB has great passive sthat help you a lot but on the other hand they do have the stam gap closer and spammable that Sorcs lack and that 2h grants

    I want to make things dead and have fun doing it while being flashy
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    MalsvirIxen wrote: »

    I want to make things dead and have fun doing it while being flashy

    You can do that with any Class.


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  • SmellyUnlimited
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    Maybe stop making the same thread multiple times asking the exact same question
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  • MalsvirIxen
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    SmellyUnlimited wrote: »
    Maybe stop making the same thread multiple times asking the exact same question

    That was a mess up of my phone. That was not intential.
  • Bladerunner1
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    I use 2H on my NB often and it works out well, but a lot of Nightblade skills seem so dagger-oriented. The fast, twitchy movements look weird because the huge weapon seems to vanish for a split second. Maybe it would look better on a Sorc.
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    Nightblade for PvP, without a doubt.
  • the_broo11
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    If you're willing to invest some time, I'd say stam sorc. They're the definition of flashy, but also require a bit more practice to survive (assuming you're going all-in on damage like you would with a NB). By going stam sorc, you have to learn how use use your mobility defensively (LOS/positioning) whereas NB has this built-in with cloak. I also should add that dizzying is one of the most difficult skills to master in the game, but can be extremely rewarding once you get it down.

    With regards to damage: I've been running a 2h/bow stam sorc for several years now, and I have only met a handful of stamblades that can match my sustained burst. If you opt for stam sorc, I'd highly suggest spriggans as a part of any build. Their lack of a major fracture is the biggest weak point of the class in terms of damage. I also suggest stacking max stam with bound armaments.

    I can provide more detail if you're interested.
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  • rafaelcsmaia
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    the_broo11 wrote: »
    If you're willing to invest some time, I'd say stam sorc. They're the definition of flashy, but also require a bit more practice to survive (assuming you're going all-in on damage like you would with a NB). By going stam sorc, you have to learn how use use your mobility defensively (LOS/positioning) whereas NB has this built-in with cloak. I also should add that dizzying is one of the most difficult skills to master in the game, but can be extremely rewarding once you get it down.

    With regards to damage: I've been running a 2h/bow stam sorc for several years now, and I have only met a handful of stamblades that can match my sustained burst. If you opt for stam sorc, I'd highly suggest spriggans as a part of any build. Their lack of a major fracture is the biggest weak point of the class in terms of damage. I also suggest stacking max stam with bound armaments.

    I can provide more detail if you're interested.

    Im interested in your burst, everytime I tried stam sorc it was a wrecking blow fiesta, nothing to compare with incap + SA
  • MalsvirIxen
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    rafaelcsmaia wrote: »
    the_broo11 wrote: »
    If you're willing to invest some time, I'd say stam sorc. They're the definition of flashy, but also require a bit more practice to survive (assuming you're going all-in on damage like you would with a NB). By going stam sorc, you have to learn how use use your mobility defensively (LOS/positioning) whereas NB has this built-in with cloak. I also should add that dizzying is one of the most difficult skills to master in the game, but can be extremely rewarding once you get it down.

    With regards to damage: I've been running a 2h/bow stam sorc for several years now, and I have only met a handful of stamblades that can match my sustained burst. If you opt for stam sorc, I'd highly suggest spriggans as a part of any build. Their lack of a major fracture is the biggest weak point of the class in terms of damage. I also suggest stacking max stam with bound armaments.

    I can provide more detail if you're interested.

    Im interested in your burst, everytime I tried stam sorc it was a wrecking blow fiesta, nothing to compare with incap + SA

    yeah I was always told to go with Wrecking Blow
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    The answer is definitely nightblade because they have a good spam skill. Yes the psijic line changes the equation a bit, but that is the big problem with 2H on a sorc is that you get forced into a wrecking blow build. Good players simply dont die to wrecking blow 1v1. I despise trying to play with that skill. In PVE, the answer is of course, go DW, but for PVP, NB with 2H get a heafty buff this patch.
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    Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »
    The answer is definitely nightblade because they have a good spam skill. Yes the psijic line changes the equation a bit, but that is the big problem with 2H on a sorc is that you get forced into a wrecking blow build. Good players simply dont die to wrecking blow 1v1. I despise trying to play with that skill. In PVE, the answer is of course, go DW, but for PVP, NB with 2H get a heafty buff this patch.

    Shame that they could have offered us a regular spammable and I would probably buy summerset just for that. But instead they went for this weird light attack thing.
    Edited by Ragnarock41 on May 29, 2018 8:13PM
  • the_broo11
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    rafaelcsmaia wrote: »
    the_broo11 wrote: »
    If you're willing to invest some time, I'd say stam sorc. They're the definition of flashy, but also require a bit more practice to survive (assuming you're going all-in on damage like you would with a NB). By going stam sorc, you have to learn how use use your mobility defensively (LOS/positioning) whereas NB has this built-in with cloak. I also should add that dizzying is one of the most difficult skills to master in the game, but can be extremely rewarding once you get it down.

    With regards to damage: I've been running a 2h/bow stam sorc for several years now, and I have only met a handful of stamblades that can match my sustained burst. If you opt for stam sorc, I'd highly suggest spriggans as a part of any build. Their lack of a major fracture is the biggest weak point of the class in terms of damage. I also suggest stacking max stam with bound armaments.

    I can provide more detail if you're interested.

    Im interested in your burst, everytime I tried stam sorc it was a wrecking blow fiesta, nothing to compare with incap + SA
    MalsvirIxen wrote: »
    rafaelcsmaia wrote: »
    the_broo11 wrote: »
    If you're willing to invest some time, I'd say stam sorc. They're the definition of flashy, but also require a bit more practice to survive (assuming you're going all-in on damage like you would with a NB). By going stam sorc, you have to learn how use use your mobility defensively (LOS/positioning) whereas NB has this built-in with cloak. I also should add that dizzying is one of the most difficult skills to master in the game, but can be extremely rewarding once you get it down.

    With regards to damage: I've been running a 2h/bow stam sorc for several years now, and I have only met a handful of stamblades that can match my sustained burst. If you opt for stam sorc, I'd highly suggest spriggans as a part of any build. Their lack of a major fracture is the biggest weak point of the class in terms of damage. I also suggest stacking max stam with bound armaments.

    I can provide more detail if you're interested.

    Im interested in your burst, everytime I tried stam sorc it was a wrecking blow fiesta, nothing to compare with incap + SA

    yeah I was always told to go with Wrecking Blow

    Sure thing. I'll get back to you guys this evening after I get home from work.
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  • the_broo11
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    Following up from earlier:

    The key is in heavy attacks and direct damage. With the right setup (see end of post for build), you can have a 6-8k heavy attack, which deals 50% of that damage to 3 enemies, as well as buffing your next direct damage attack by 10%. The basic sequence is bow LA + poison inject (master's bow) + double dot poison (if it procs) --> stampede --> heavy attack --> X. That damage itself is non-trivial (well over 10k if they're not fully buffed), so that leaves X as either reverse slice, dawnbreaker, or dizzying in decreasing order of preference (simply because the first two are instant). Occasionally you will have to use it when you know your enemy will block/dodge, but it still serves its purpose as offensive pressure. Honestly, the phrase "good people don't die to die to dizzying" doesn't really have any bearing, since dawnbreaker/reverse slice/implosion will be doing most of the killing.

    It may help if I showed some gameplay:
    http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/the-broo11/video/45202663
    http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/the-broo11/video/45809923
    http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/the-broo11/video/47609050

    And here's what I'm running (with crit/stam/immov pots). It may change some for next update (I'm on XB1), but I'll have to wait to test things out:
    http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=65082
    Edited by the_broo11 on May 30, 2018 3:41PM
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    Spell Casting Wizard - medium 2h/bow stam sorc
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