Unless you want the Psijic Order Skill line or want to transmute jewelry, Summerset's changes to PVP were all base game.

MinuitPro wrote: »

I find it 1) beautiful and 2) very amusing. It's bright and cheery after having the ash cloud of Vvradenfell. And, some of the quests had me chuckling for a bit.

The Media/Arts people did great work and left some spots open for future DLCs. I'm glad I bought it.

Sums it up for me. Having a lot of fun with it.

The zone may look small, but it felt large when I'd played it; the interior of areas are really expansive. Traitor's Vault for one: many floors, confusing a heck. When you have an objective it can be 15-30 minutes of "wasn't I here before?" but in the end all of that sums up to give a lot of depth to the areas.

1) Yeah the Psijic ranking was tedious but... not moreso than Fighters or Mages. If you're doing it for the first time, expect about 4 hours of running around Tamriel. If you have a photographic memory, you can probably shave 60-90 minutes off that on alts.

2) We don't have to buy it for the base game improvements, thankfully.

3) If you're wavering and unsure; just wait til next summer and it'll probably be free with Chapter 3 with Jewelry, etc rolled into basegame. If you love questing, there's a lot of fun ones in this.

Summerset is a very good DLC. The zone is absolutely beautiful and quite large. The quests are pretty interesting and somewhat lengthy. There are new dolmens with bosses that are similar to overland world bosses. The Trial is super, super noob friendly and gives you a reason to grind. If you like thieving, the new Summerset cities contain loads of lootable containers.

If you want PvP, the door is ->
(as little has changed and probably wont as the crown store is where revenue is)

Otherwise Summerset is worth it

MinuitPro wrote: »

I find it 1) beautiful and 2) very amusing. It's bright and cheery after having the ash cloud of Vvradenfell. And, some of the quests had me chuckling for a bit.

The Media/Arts people did great work and left some spots open for future DLCs. I'm glad I bought it.

Yes area is beautiful lots of the quests are very good and have fun twists.
The orc who wanted to duel and the cursed book is my favorite.

Now the ultimate Easter egg would be if you teleport out during the time travel to the future there you Altmer companion is an old lady.
You end in an room of unknown design an Ohmes-raht Khajiit wearing an unknown armor and wielding an spear telling you that you are obvious fresh blood and this area is for cp 1500 or higher, he has no time as he has just ported from Murkmire with and short stop at Winterhold to craft some new spells in the preparing for the invasion of Akavir, you find an piece of cp250 armor but the Khajiit port you back then you try to loot it.

Not quite. 20 bucks maybe, but not 30 or 40

idk wrote: »

Compared to Morrowind Summerset is amazing.
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Yeah, that's why I am still in Vvardenfell after Summerset release) But I admit, I am a hardcore fan of the dunmer island.

Anyway, I enjoyed Summerset while playing on PTS. So that is that. Maybe, if not for the Grand Master Crafter title, I would have waited for discounts

Kind of enjoying this DLC mostly for the sight seeing. Haven't even started much of a quest line and as far as the jewelry crafting sensation, I'm just taking my time. After looking at the prices for jewelry just to decon, I can wait. Months...if need be. In any case, adding jewelry crafting is going to be fun and exciting. I can see where jewelry crafting could expand to many other things, such as headpieces for sets, bracelets...

Good job ZOS. Summerset is a winner.

lihentian wrote: »

jewelry craft is a joke.. don't expect to be able to craft anything without spend millions of gold.. which might be easier to hire other to do it for you.. if you have the money.. cheaper too.

I got to 50 in JC on my main crafter within a week with spending 30k to get to 50 from 49. I also spend a wooping 200k to get all the trait research jewelery that I won't be bothered to grind for (triune, bloodthirsty and harmony). That's 230k and a bit of patience (plus some research scrolls from the vouchers that I saved) to get all that I need. Sure grinding the materials is tedious, but it won't be cheaper to hire someone to do it for you. Just do the writs -> get the surveys -> get the mats -> refine them -> get the upgrade mats. Will it take a lot of time? Yep. Will it cost you an arm and a leg to get your golden jewelery? Not if you are a bit patient and set aside a bit of time to get the mats each day. Good system? Not really, but not that bad and surely there are not millions of gold involved.

the psijic kill line is cool, awesome skills, animations like meditate, time freeze and temporal guard Ult. but getting it is not fun, there is lots of running around on a map and where it points you to doesn't seem accurate. doing that for 12 characters is going to get lame fast. Jewellery crafting is a chore and expensive to level atm. I like the Main quests and scenery is visually impressive for ESO. cool motifs to collect from dailies. Trial not done yet, but probably will only do normal and heard it is easy on that. i thought it was worth it with the pre-order digital collectors edition. you get full Morrowind for free, with warden class that will be separate soon in crown store. Then 2 cool mounts, divine prosecutor style for free costume creation( handy for weapons), a court of bedlam costume and a griffin pet.

I personally loved the quests the most in the new Chapter. Some of the quests left me astonished and I marked some as some of my favorite quests. Some quests left me with extremely difficult choices that really tested my moral compass or tested my rational decision making. One quest in particular I never expected and near the end, I actually gasped and was taken aback. Usually, it's pretty easy with these quests to know what you're doing, but this one I was extremely surprised. It was that good. I won't spoil it, but I was extremely happy with how they represented the quest and everyone in it. The main quest is very fulfilling to me, at the end it reminded me of the main quest and left me really happy when everything happens in the very final quest. There are also some familiar faces that I was happy or unhappy to see.

Abyssal Geysers are very similar to regular dolmens, but somewhat harder. I've actually died with geysers because of the world bosses it gives you while with dolmens, I don't think I've ever died.

Jewelry crafting is fun, for now. When you are going to try to upgrade your jewelry to gold, don't bother. At the moment, the upgrading system is extremely grindy. You need 80 dusts to get 8 plates and dusts drop at the rate of other gold crafting materials, like tempering alloy. The fact you need 80, however, is insane. I think they can easily fix this by upgrading the chance of getting dusts instead of it being the same as other gold crafting materials. They can also add a skill where you can get multiple dusts for refining and deconstructing instead of only getting one. There are many possible fixes for the extreme grind, but at the moment, trying to upgrade your jewelry to gold is not worth it.

Psijic Order is a grind, but not as bad as everyone is making it. You have a little buddy with you that will talk to you every time you are near the thing you need to find and I find him hilarious. The repetitiveness of the quests does get boring, but just powering through it is pretty simple.

Overall, I'm happy with getting Summerset early. I actually waited and didn't make the purchase until a week before it came out on the live servers because I was very skeptical with what I was seeing on PTS. I think there is still much room for improvement, especially in regards with jewelry crafting, but the Chapter itself definitely gives a lot to offer.

Absolutely love Summerset!