MagDK

Octopuss · May 2018

My DK's gear consists of mixture of 2x Valkyn Skoria, 5x Julianos, and 5x Burning Spellweave.
I have a fire and a lightning staves.
I don't intend to do any trials for the foreseeable future.

What could I change after the last update to get a little bit more out of the character? I noticed Alcast suggests dual fire staves and Silks of the Sun set.
I like the lightning staff for the aoe heavy attack, but that might be too 2017.

kts · May 2018

What DPS are you getting with those sets? I'd defintely swap out skoria for zaan

Narvuntien · May 2018

I got 30K with the same build but dual fire... what's your dps?

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/414852/yes-i-did-it-30k-dps.

I own Silks of the sun but previously before I could get a full monster set I had to switch to 1 pc slimeclaw for more crit. I prefer getting my hp bonus from Skoria and my crit from BSW. I think silks was suggested because its easy to get (if you have a lot of gold) Interestingly I can now run both Silks and BSW I haven't tried it yet, but I'll lose out on my 5-1-1 set up I get from Juli.

Octopuss · May 2018

kts wrote: »

What DPS are you getting with those sets? I'd defintely swap out skoria for zaan

Heh, I don't know and I don't care. I don't even have Combat Metrics active anymore. I don't even do any dungeons lately.
I'm just interested what's the current gear recommendation if you exclude trial stuff.

Btw I like Skoria way too much. Not going to part with it - the effect is too awesome

Narvuntien wrote: »

I got 30K with the same build but dual fire... what's your dps?

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/414852/yes-i-did-it-30k-dps.

I own Silks of the sun but previously before I could get a full monster set I had to switch to 1 pc slimeclaw for more crit. I prefer getting my hp bonus from Skoria and my crit from BSW. I think silks was suggested because its easy to get (if you have a lot of gold) Interestingly I can now run both Silks and BSW I haven't tried it yet, but I'll lose out on my 5-1-1 set up I get from Juli.

Do you use two fire staves?
Do people still use lightning staff on backbar for off-balance or not?
If I switch to dual fire staves, there is probably very little point in using Juli.

edit: I'm blind. You already stated that. Haven't had any coffee yet!

Narvuntien · May 2018

So I tried BSW and Sun and got a whole... 200 extra damage... *shrug*.

Its a little complicated since I only have a sharp Sun staff and not an nirnhoned one and I have to put on a heavy Skoria shoulder which I don't have in divine to keep my 5-1-1 set up and resources similar.. I also tried Grothdar, again about the same but I only have it in med so I lose resources (hp is too low).

Since Juli applies to all damage types it probably slightly better, also the extra crit is important.

Octopuss · May 2018

Any extra damage is better, isn't it?
But yes, crit is nice. I only have 43% with my current setup.

Narvuntien · May 2018

Well 200 damage isn't significant.. and in a dungeon or trial you will activate synergies which will not all be fire damage.

Septimus_Magna · May 2018

Go for dual fire staves on a magicka DK, lightning staff was only viable pre-Dragon Bones.
Julianos and BSW are both better than Silks of the Sun imo.

Zaan is good replacement for Skoria but it usually means you have to spec a bit into health.
You can run tri-stat glyphs on infused chest, legs and head.
This will give one free stam enchant which makes it easier to keep up rearming trap.

Octopuss · May 2018

Allright. Thanks.
Oh, and what staff traits/enchantments are the current meta?

Cybercore_Death · May 2018

You might wanna have a read through the below guide. It’s viable with your current setup. You can also swap out Skoria for Ilambris for a little more damage or as suggested Zaan for even more. I currently run the below build and it runs superbly once you get used to the rotation. You can swap out Infal for Undaunted Infiltrator until you run trials and get Infal :-)

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/309550/elemental-fury-pve-heavy-attack-dk-build-summerset-ready/p1

Octopuss · May 2018

I don't have IA gear and I sure will never have VMA staff.

Septimus_Magna · May 2018

Octopuss wrote: »

Allright. Thanks.
Oh, and what staff traits/enchantments are the current meta?

Infused with fire dmg enchant on the front bar.
Infused with increase spell dmg enchant on the back bar.

Octopuss · May 2018

Thanks!

Cybercore_Death · May 2018

Octopuss wrote: »

I don't have IA gear and I sure will never have VMA staff.

That’s why I said you can mix the gear up. You can run 5 julianos (Flame staff back and shock staff front), 5 BSW and a 2 piece kinder set of your choice and the build will work just fine for you :-)

Octopuss · May 2018

Septimus_Magna wrote: »

Octopuss wrote: »

Allright. Thanks.
Oh, and what staff traits/enchantments are the current meta?

Infused with fire dmg enchant on the front bar.
Infused with increase spell dmg enchant on the back bar.

Oh wait, Nirnohoded is not used anymore either?

Haquor · May 2018

Have you tried elfbane? Im pairing that with 5 bsw (including front bar infused inferno) and it is performing really well. Imagine a couple of extra seconds to all your abilities. Standard, zaan, embers, blockade, engulfing flames.

Longer intervals between dot recasts and more whips.

Ive tried bsw/sun, bsw/juli, bsw/elfbane and the later is performing best for me(consistently mid 40s). Will be trying siroria/elfbane as soon as i get the staff

Narvuntien · May 2018

Well I don't have dragonbones DLC so I can't get Zaan, without Zaan elf bane isn't as powerful.

I hilariously remember considering elf bane a year ago when I was trying to make this character and getting laughed at... oh how times have changed.

Octopuss · May 2018

Haquor wrote: »

and more whips.

What, people use Whip again? I am so out of the loop.

Cybercore_Death · May 2018

Octopuss wrote: »

Haquor wrote: »

and more whips.

What, people use Whip again? I am so out of the loop.

Indeed they do, and there’s also a very viable Force Pulse / Crushing Shock build as well

Octopuss · May 2018

Cybercore_Death wrote: »

Indeed they do, and there’s also a very viable Force Pulse / Crushing Shock build as well

I guess I'd need some source of shock dmg for off-balance purposes if I wanted to switch back to Lash and make the most out of it, right?

Septimus_Magna · May 2018

Octopuss wrote: »

Septimus_Magna wrote: »

Octopuss wrote: »

Allright. Thanks.
Oh, and what staff traits/enchantments are the current meta?

Infused with fire dmg enchant on the front bar.
Infused with increase spell dmg enchant on the back bar.

Oh wait, Nirnohoded is not used anymore either?

Simply put, infused with berserker enchant buffs dmg on the front and back bar.
Nirnhoned only buffs the skills casted from the back bar.

If you have a lot of strong dots on the back bar (stam builds for example) nirnhoned is better.
On a magicka DK most experienced players choose to run infused on the back bar.

Octopuss · July 2018

Cybercore_Death wrote: »

Indeed they do, and there’s also a very viable Force Pulse / Crushing Shock build as well

Could you point me to that please?

Cybercore_Death · July 2018

Octopuss wrote: »

Cybercore_Death wrote: »

Indeed they do, and there’s also a very viable Force Pulse / Crushing Shock build as well

Could you point me to that please?

https://youtu.be/wLrTPMfkQCY

This is the link to his newthe at build. It was his dragonbones patch build that ran the force pulse setup. I personally run something completely different and I’m pulling an easy 36k (with vMA Weapon, and can probably be pushed higher with a little tweaking).