I vote NO simply for the fact that what you are suggesting is absolutely Pay2Win - no question.

So you want to be able to buy something that other people spend hours achieving (and don't start comparing it to other Crown Store items, because most of them are consumable one time uses, OR things that only affect crafting)? I don't even PvP regularly, but I would never want this to become a thing.

If you have an issue with wanting the achievements, but not wanting the PvP content, then maybe a better suggestion would be enabling some sort of PvE mode that made PvE players "invisible" to PvP'ers and unable to take part in any PvP content - so that the only thing available would be the dungeons and town quests. The answer is never "can I just pay my way out?"... SMH

Fresh meat in cyrodiil is needed. I'm tired of salt crusted nightblades and heal bot tanks.

I have little/no interest in PvP (in all games, not just ESO) but I have to agree with the people who say this is pay-to-win and if you want skyshards and skills from Cyrodiil you should go there and earn them like everyone else.

And honestly I haven't found skyshard hunting to be that bad. I pick the lowest population campaign I can find (not that there's many to choose from), try to go during 'off peak' times when I can and check the map periodically to stay away from control points which are under attack as that's where the most activity is likely to be.

When I first went there I was making sure to stay off the roads, preferably near the edge of the map, using a dull coloured costume and mount (or no mount at all) to try and avoid being too noticable...then I realised if you're away from the fighting you can go for an hour or two without ever seeing another player without making a special effort to avoid them, so I stopped worrying about it as much.

Yes I get killed sometimes, but it's not a big deal. If someone attacks me I stand there and let them kill me, then I respawn and start over. It adds a few minutes to the process but that's all.

And I have actually had some interesting moments trying to cooperate with "enemy" players on PvE goals without killing each other. Doing a dolmen where you have to actually aim your attacks and think about who is going to get hit instead of just spamming everything to tag as many enemies as possible was surprisingly fun.

MisterBigglesworth wrote: »

Would you pay 2,000 Crowns for a token that:

• Permanently turns off the ability to enter Cyrodiil
• Gives you all the Skyshards from Cyrodiil & Imperial City
• Unlocks all the Alliance War abilities

Note: please specify other for any disagreements over Crown cost or purchasable with gold, Account-wide vs. Character, additional benefits, fewer benefits, etc.

How about you just make a PVE variant of cyrodiil that's an actual zone instead of making me continue to do the tedious and pointless task ONLY because you don't ever want to PVP?

MisterBigglesworth wrote: »

Would you pay 2,000 Crowns for a token that:

• Permanently turns off the ability to enter Cyrodiil
• Gives you all the Skyshards from Cyrodiil & Imperial City
• Unlocks all the Alliance War abilities

Note: please specify other for any disagreements over Crown cost or purchasable with gold, Account-wide vs. Character, additional benefits, fewer benefits, etc.

No. Just no.

Just make it so that PvP can be turned on/off at each of the Alliance Bases. Cyrodiil is not just a PvP zone, so removing the ability to do PvE in Cyrodiil for 2000 crowns is a scam.

Same thing with not being allowed to enter IC, and somehow getting IC Skyshards without ever setting foot there.

The third suggestion is even worse, as those are things that you should do PvP and work for.

All in all, this suggestion is, imo, just terrible.

I only need the fish

I don't enjoy pvp in MMOs. In my opinion, any PvP situation in which gear and the possibility of imbalanced stats enters the equation is inherently broken. Yes, this implies that most MMO pvp is inherently broken. It's why I keep my pvp-ing to games that are actually meant for PvP. Fight me.

Anywho, I tried going into cyrodil a few times, both for caltrops and the skyshards. Every time I've gone, I've gotten ganked pretty much continuously shortly after entering enemy delves. Eventually when I'd give up on the delves and try and do some actual pvping, I would usually wind up alone and not realizing where the flow of combat was, because the map is only so accurate and the area is gigantic.

TL; DR most PvE players don't find PvP fun and never will. The real problem that this thread underscores is that PvPers must do PvE content for certain benefits, and PvErs must do PvP content for certain benefits. A critical failure of the MMO industry is to try and push players into doing content they don't enjoy, and that extends far beyond this game.

There should be non-combat options for cyrodil, period. And no overland / dungeon / trial set should be BiS for PvP. To quote a famous 90s band, gotta keep em' separated.

Stop whining about PvP. Suck it up and PvP to get PvP abilities and skillpoints, its really not that hard

I don't like PvP in ESO - it is really horrible - but I don't like the idea of this token either, because it would cut out a medium part of the game. I suffered once through Cyro to get the skills and some skill points, as well as all POI. I felt happy and that I achieved something (like finishing a chore), but I never visited Cyro since then (and don't miss it). Still, essentially just removing this part of the map would devalue player experiences.

I just want a white flag. I want to run through Cyro without killing or being killed. There are a bunch of quests I cannot do because I dislike PvP. Grumble. Give us a PvP-free version of Cyro and I'll be quite happy to let y'all go on killing and teabagging each other. That life is just not for me.

VaranisArano wrote: »

No, because if I'd ever bought such a thing, I would have never learned to love PVP. And I would have enjoyed this game much less.

This message should be taken as example. He learned to love pvp, people should learn with this guy instead of bashing pvp.

No, I already paid for the content

I'd be open to a PvE only version of Cyrodil and IC for Skyshards and PvE stuff but I wouldn't pay even more for access

Why not pay to do the same for pve ?

Reason ... It's a game ... You play as much as you can, hopefully enjoy all of it if not have enough to enjoy what you do for a long time

But buying part of the game to lock you out to gain perks for the other part is dumb

But then I'm thinking how many idiots would do this and miss out on catrops and vigor for their stamina builds ?

Guard for thier tanks

Magicka hasn't got anything worth having outside of cyrodil

Just enjoy the game please ... Stop thinking of way not to enjoy it ... Besides it's amazing how much you might enjoy something of you actually tried it with an open mind

I honestly don't understand why so many players hate Cyrodiil so much. I'm not a PVP'er. I can't be bothered to change armor to go to Cyrodiil. I go in my light divines. As I said earlier, I have done everything in Cyrodiil (skyshards, delves, dolmens). I can even take resources by myself as long as no other enemy players come along. Sometimes when I am attacked, I die, and occasionally, I kill the other player. When that happens, I am like a child...........I get really excited........I killed someone, I killed someone, I killed someone!! lol But, most importantly, I find the whole experience to be challenging and fun. Sometimes, I will find a group to run with and take keeps. I fight, I heal others, I die, and I get back on that horse and ride back in to fight another day!

Once you are CP900 like I am, overland content is way too easy so I enjoy the challenge of PVP.

I wouldn't because I already have unlocked all alliance war levels on all my characters & have most of the shards. Also i enjoy pvp far more than pve.

However.... if some players prefer not to Pvp then i think separate instance of Cyrodiil that is just pve is a good option. Have quests that level the alliance war skill lines but do not actually earn alliance war ranks. I do not think that any players should just get the alliance war skill points without earning them via pvp.

The faction base skyshards should only exist in the pvp version of Cyrodiil. .. just a little pvp incentive for the completionists IMHO these skyshards are the most fun to aquire in the whole game.

I had to lol @ the posts saying that pvp isn't fun because enemy players strike from stealth & are 'cowards' I imagine a scenario where the enemy player stands right in front of you, fully visible, & yells 'prepare for combat my good sir! I am about to attack!@#$'