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Stamsorc PVP build Summerset ?

NIcklas.g87b16_ESO
Hi!

Im getting back in to this game with the summerset exp. and mainly playing PVP and i would like to bring my stamsorc back to life whit this expantion.

Whit the new 2h changes im thinking of Automaton set ( Spelling ) and bone pirate and troll king or blood spawn

Bone pirate jewlery and 2pc on the body and automaton 2h axe 3pc on body and some random bow or 2h / shield on the back bar whit + stam regen or maby just wep dmg 2pc set bonus.

what you guys think ? culd this setup work in NON cp PVP ?

Best regards
  • SpiderCultist
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    Apparently bone pirate is currently bugged (interface shows correct stats but they do not compute), let's hope it gets fixed today. if not, plan another combo of sets.
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  • NIcklas.g87b16_ESO
    Apparently bone pirate is currently bugged (interface shows correct stats but they do not compute), let's hope it gets fixed today. if not, plan another combo of sets.

    Do you have any tips to sub for these sets if bone pirate is not fixed ?

    Maby switch bone pirate for agility frontbar and maby edurance backbar for the extra stam regen ?
  • Vapirko
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    That sounds fine. Stamina sorc isn't super versatile now, so no matter what youre play style will be pretty much the same and that is some form of dawn breaker burst followed by executes. We have no class damage skills so it is what it is. Any sets that give you an amount of sustain/resources/damage that you are comfortable with is good. Most common sets are probably bone pirates, automaton, sprigging, clever alchemist and shacklebreaker and maybe agility jewlery. Along with blood spawn, troll king, skoria or slime craw. Beyond that though you can really run what works. The only thing I would shy away from is a SB damage setup as that doesnt really work without proc sets or maybe at all anymore due to lack of class damage skills.
  • SpiderCultist
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    Apparently bone pirate is currently bugged (interface shows correct stats but they do not compute), let's hope it gets fixed today. if not, plan another combo of sets.

    Do you have any tips to sub for these sets if bone pirate is not fixed ?

    Maby switch bone pirate for agility frontbar and maby edurance backbar for the extra stam regen ?

    If I recall correctly I run master's dw weapons, bloodspawn, 7th legion and ww hide on my stamsorc but that's one of the dozens of setups you can come with and I'm not that good at playing him. You better wait for someone with better knowledge :tongue:


    EDIT: before some good samaritan posted BP is bugged I was running BP.

    EDIT2: It's not 7th Legion but Durok's Bane.
    Edited by SpiderCultist on May 21, 2018 10:23AM
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  • WeylandLabs
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    PvP ? Solo Cyrodiil, Small Group, Zergling build ? BGs build ? Can you be more specific please ?
  • NIcklas.g87b16_ESO
    PvP ? Solo Cyrodiil, Small Group, Zergling build ? BGs build ? Can you be more specific please ?

    Its for NON cp pvp ( Cyrodiil ) and solo. would like some tips for some BG-build aswell.

    Thanks
  • WeylandLabs
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    If you are coming back and your doing non CP I'd suggest.


    5 Duroks Body 5 viper 1 masters bow
    1h VMA axe and dagger your crit should be around 46.5 enough to maintain crit surge on your front bar back bar.

    Traits: Bow powered - Axe presice - dagger presice. Infused stamina head- chest and legs, impen arms-waist-feet

    Front bar skills:

    Trap beast , evilhunter, critsurge, bloodcraze, bloodthirst. - Ult Dawnbreaker smiting

    Backbar skills:

    Vigor, defensive rune, hurricane, poison inject, dark deal. -Ult Attronach (greater ver)

    Rotation: ( Wait for them to attack )


    Defensive rune - Light attack- Poison inject - Trap beast - Bloodthirst ( viper procs dot )- Bloodcraze, Trap Beast into Dawnbreaker - Implode passive RIP.

    If you get bursted-defensive rune- Attronach ult LOS trap beast camp vigor dark deal until resources are back.

    Sub sets per situation Shield Breaker, shield spammers. Rotation with them is different automatically poison inject into Dawnbreaker they freak out and shield spam light attack spam and in 3 sec they are dead.

    Receive hate mail after lol

    4 dots is to much pressure they panic and run away or stay and die - do not chase.

    Your welcome and enjoy :)

    Edited by WeylandLabs on May 21, 2018 12:09PM
  • Aznox
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    Vapirko wrote: »
    That sounds fine. Stamina sorc isn't super versatile now, so no matter what youre play style will be pretty much the same and that is some form of dawn breaker burst followed by executes.

    I would differentiate builds that rely on your typical [high stamina recovery + medium bone pirate + vigor]

    And builds with low stamina sustain [Troll King + Heavy Shacklebreaker + Dark Deal]

    I would also argue that stamsorc being fine with whatever weapon skill you want makes it as much "versatile" as other classes that are sometimes forced to use their in-class version because they include things that comes built-in for stamsorc (like Major Brutality, Major Resistance Buff, etc..)
    We have no class damage skills so it is what it is.

    If you look at combat metrics after a fight against an opponent trying to be evasive, hurricane will often be in your top 3 sources of damage, if not the first.
    Any sets that give you an amount of sustain/resources/damage that you are comfortable with is good. Most common sets are probably bone pirates, automaton, sprigging, clever alchemist and shacklebreaker and maybe agility jewlery. Along with blood spawn, troll king, skoria or slime craw. Beyond that though you can really run what works.

    Lots of good options. I would add Red Mountain for that cheap and efficient proc stacking in no-CP, don't forget Lover stone if you go this way.
    The only thing I would shy away from is a SB damage setup as that doesnt really work without proc sets or maybe at all anymore due to lack of class damage skills.

    Do not discard Sword&Board for damage, [light attack -> pierce armor -> bash] is a top tier spammable outside of execute range. Plus you get a great line of skills to pick from (reverb, heroic slash, defensive stance)

    Aznox
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  • Vapirko
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    Aznox wrote: »
    Vapirko wrote: »
    That sounds fine. Stamina sorc isn't super versatile now, so no matter what youre play style will be pretty much the same and that is some form of dawn breaker burst followed by executes.

    I would differentiate builds that rely on your typical [high stamina recovery + medium bone pirate + vigor]

    And builds with low stamina sustain [Troll King + Heavy Shacklebreaker + Dark Deal]

    I would also argue that stamsorc being fine with whatever weapon skill you want makes it as much "versatile" as other classes that are sometimes forced to use their in-class version because they include things that comes built-in for stamsorc (like Major Brutality, Major Resistance Buff, etc..)
    We have no class damage skills so it is what it is.

    If you look at combat metrics after a fight against an opponent trying to be evasive, hurricane will often be in your top 3 sources of damage, if not the first.
    Any sets that give you an amount of sustain/resources/damage that you are comfortable with is good. Most common sets are probably bone pirates, automaton, sprigging, clever alchemist and shacklebreaker and maybe agility jewlery. Along with blood spawn, troll king, skoria or slime craw. Beyond that though you can really run what works.

    Lots of good options. I would add Red Mountain for that cheap and efficient proc stacking in no-CP, don't forget Lover stone if you go this way.
    The only thing I would shy away from is a SB damage setup as that doesnt really work without proc sets or maybe at all anymore due to lack of class damage skills.

    Do not discard Sword&Board for damage, [light attack -> pierce armor -> bash] is a top tier spammable outside of execute range. Plus you get a great line of skills to pick from (reverb, heroic slash, defensive stance)

    I don’t think I’ve seen a stam sorc run Sb damage build since the tremorscale days. I certainly wouldn’t want to try bursting anyone down spamming only heroic slash. Give us a physical morph of curse, mages wrath, frags and then we can talk.
  • SpiderCultist
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    According to the patch notes bone pirate has been fixed.

    You can go ahead and use it
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  • Aznox
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    Vapirko wrote: »
    Aznox wrote: »
    Vapirko wrote: »
    That sounds fine. Stamina sorc isn't super versatile now, so no matter what youre play style will be pretty much the same and that is some form of dawn breaker burst followed by executes.

    I would differentiate builds that rely on your typical [high stamina recovery + medium bone pirate + vigor]

    And builds with low stamina sustain [Troll King + Heavy Shacklebreaker + Dark Deal]

    I would also argue that stamsorc being fine with whatever weapon skill you want makes it as much "versatile" as other classes that are sometimes forced to use their in-class version because they include things that comes built-in for stamsorc (like Major Brutality, Major Resistance Buff, etc..)
    We have no class damage skills so it is what it is.

    If you look at combat metrics after a fight against an opponent trying to be evasive, hurricane will often be in your top 3 sources of damage, if not the first.
    Any sets that give you an amount of sustain/resources/damage that you are comfortable with is good. Most common sets are probably bone pirates, automaton, sprigging, clever alchemist and shacklebreaker and maybe agility jewlery. Along with blood spawn, troll king, skoria or slime craw. Beyond that though you can really run what works.

    Lots of good options. I would add Red Mountain for that cheap and efficient proc stacking in no-CP, don't forget Lover stone if you go this way.
    The only thing I would shy away from is a SB damage setup as that doesnt really work without proc sets or maybe at all anymore due to lack of class damage skills.

    Do not discard Sword&Board for damage, [light attack -> pierce armor -> bash] is a top tier spammable outside of execute range. Plus you get a great line of skills to pick from (reverb, heroic slash, defensive stance)

    I don’t think I’ve seen a stam sorc run Sb damage build since the tremorscale days. I certainly wouldn’t want to try bursting anyone down spamming only heroic slash. Give us a physical morph of curse, mages wrath, frags and then we can talk.

    Here is a video of a high sustain + burst stamsorc using S&B as his main source of non-execute damage :
    https://youtu.be/iJBtL8mMpRU

    Here is a video of a low sustain + pressure stamsorc (me) using S&B as the main spammable :
    https://youtu.be/bv6wJWmWTYM
    Edited by Aznox on May 21, 2018 1:42PM
    Aznox
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  • Vapirko
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    Aznox wrote: »
    Vapirko wrote: »
    Aznox wrote: »
    Vapirko wrote: »
    That sounds fine. Stamina sorc isn't super versatile now, so no matter what youre play style will be pretty much the same and that is some form of dawn breaker burst followed by executes.

    I would differentiate builds that rely on your typical [high stamina recovery + medium bone pirate + vigor]

    And builds with low stamina sustain [Troll King + Heavy Shacklebreaker + Dark Deal]

    I would also argue that stamsorc being fine with whatever weapon skill you want makes it as much "versatile" as other classes that are sometimes forced to use their in-class version because they include things that comes built-in for stamsorc (like Major Brutality, Major Resistance Buff, etc..)
    We have no class damage skills so it is what it is.

    If you look at combat metrics after a fight against an opponent trying to be evasive, hurricane will often be in your top 3 sources of damage, if not the first.
    Any sets that give you an amount of sustain/resources/damage that you are comfortable with is good. Most common sets are probably bone pirates, automaton, sprigging, clever alchemist and shacklebreaker and maybe agility jewlery. Along with blood spawn, troll king, skoria or slime craw. Beyond that though you can really run what works.

    Lots of good options. I would add Red Mountain for that cheap and efficient proc stacking in no-CP, don't forget Lover stone if you go this way.
    The only thing I would shy away from is a SB damage setup as that doesnt really work without proc sets or maybe at all anymore due to lack of class damage skills.

    Do not discard Sword&Board for damage, [light attack -> pierce armor -> bash] is a top tier spammable outside of execute range. Plus you get a great line of skills to pick from (reverb, heroic slash, defensive stance)

    I don’t think I’ve seen a stam sorc run Sb damage build since the tremorscale days. I certainly wouldn’t want to try bursting anyone down spamming only heroic slash. Give us a physical morph of curse, mages wrath, frags and then we can talk.

    Here is a video of a high sustain + burst stamsorc using S&B as his main source of non-execute damage :
    https://youtu.be/iJBtL8mMpRU

    Here is a video of a low sustain + pressure stamsorc (me) using S&B as the main spammable :
    https://youtu.be/bv6wJWmWTYM

    Good stuff although seems like you’d be just as or more effective with dw or 2H on your main bar out numbered like that. But to each there own playstyle, can’t argue with those smack downs. I may give it a go again.
    Edited by Vapirko on May 21, 2018 5:39PM
  • akray21
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    Apparently bone pirate is currently bugged (interface shows correct stats but they do not compute), let's hope it gets fixed today. if not, plan another combo of sets.

    Wait, really? I thought this was supposed to be fixed this patch. Did the fix not work?
  • Exodium
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    Solid medium armour setup with Max tankiness and sustain

    5 bone pirate body
    5 armour Master 2h backbar (jewellry + 2h)
    Master dw
    Bloodspawn (or damage monster set if youre a nord)

    2h bar: dizzy swing, rally, executioner, stampede (flex spot), shuffle (to proc armour master)
    Dw bar: rending, vigour, dark deal, hurricane, crit surge.
  • BlackLabel
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    5-1-1 medium

    2 slimecraw/bloodspawn
    5 spriggan
    5 clever alchemist (4/5piece On bow backbar)
    Asylum 2h

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  • the_broo11
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    BlackLabel wrote: »
    5-1-1 medium

    2 slimecraw/bloodspawn
    5 spriggan
    5 clever alchemist (4/5piece On bow backbar)
    Asylum 2h

    Good stuff.

    This is mostly what I'm planning for BGs, but with 7 med (personal preference). This build will be dealing massive damage. Probably will swap alchemist for bone pirate or hulking (spriggans 2h and master bow) for open world CP.
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  • Dyride
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    Apparently bone pirate is currently bugged (interface shows correct stats but they do not compute), let's hope it gets fixed today. if not, plan another combo of sets.

    That was fixed with Summerset patch.

    I've run a similar build to Exodium above but use Bone Pirate jewelry and 2 body 3 body pieces Armor Master and backbar Armor Master with weapon set frontbar. Slight change from his suggestion because I doubt anyone is interested in crafting 9-trait jewelry at least for a few weeks.

    Also running Prisoners Rags backbar (bow or 2H) with Impregnable on body pcs. Valkyn 2pc, and Master DW. Use medium Impregnable with Bow and heavy Impreg with 2H and Forward Momentum.
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    1. AAbrigo
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      Vapirko wrote: »
      Aznox wrote: »
      Vapirko wrote: »
      That sounds fine. Stamina sorc isn't super versatile now, so no matter what youre play style will be pretty much the same and that is some form of dawn breaker burst followed by executes.

      I would differentiate builds that rely on your typical [high stamina recovery + medium bone pirate + vigor]

      And builds with low stamina sustain [Troll King + Heavy Shacklebreaker + Dark Deal]

      I would also argue that stamsorc being fine with whatever weapon skill you want makes it as much "versatile" as other classes that are sometimes forced to use their in-class version because they include things that comes built-in for stamsorc (like Major Brutality, Major Resistance Buff, etc..)
      We have no class damage skills so it is what it is.

      If you look at combat metrics after a fight against an opponent trying to be evasive, hurricane will often be in your top 3 sources of damage, if not the first.
      Any sets that give you an amount of sustain/resources/damage that you are comfortable with is good. Most common sets are probably bone pirates, automaton, sprigging, clever alchemist and shacklebreaker and maybe agility jewlery. Along with blood spawn, troll king, skoria or slime craw. Beyond that though you can really run what works.

      Lots of good options. I would add Red Mountain for that cheap and efficient proc stacking in no-CP, don't forget Lover stone if you go this way.
      The only thing I would shy away from is a SB damage setup as that doesnt really work without proc sets or maybe at all anymore due to lack of class damage skills.

      Do not discard Sword&Board for damage, [light attack -> pierce armor -> bash] is a top tier spammable outside of execute range. Plus you get a great line of skills to pick from (reverb, heroic slash, defensive stance)

      I don’t think I’ve seen a stam sorc run Sb damage build since the tremorscale days. I certainly wouldn’t want to try bursting anyone down spamming only heroic slash. Give us a physical morph of curse, mages wrath, frags and then we can talk.

      I've been using it for awhile and my spammable were pierce armor which are pretty cheap to cast.. But yeah you rent bursting people down like with 2h, but slowly killing them with double dots/ hurricane and then finally killing rhem with a dawnbreaker burst.. But pretty strong with all the mobility stamsorcs got..
    2. ezeepeezee
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      My build right now is:

      Khajiit

      5 Hulking | Gloves, Belt, Boots, Shoulder, Helm | All Hakeijo enchants | 2 Well-fitted, rest Impen
      5 Ravaging | Chest, Legs; Jewelry | All Hakeijo enchants; 2 Weapon Damage 1 Stam Regen | Impen; 2 Robust 1 Healthy
      Master DW | Maces (would run 1 Axe if I had it) | Nirnhoned / Precise | Poison / Berserker
      Master 2h | Mace | Nirnhoned | Shock
      Lava-foot food (Max stam, stam regen)

      CP also factors into this but I'm not at my PC right now so I can't list that. I don't know the exact stats but it's something like 13k Mag, 22k HP, 38k Stam.

      It's squishy so healing matters a lot. I run Rally and Shuffle. DB on 2h bar, Overload on DW bar. Dark Deal and Ball of Lightning are on my Overload bar currently - it's my recovery/utility bar, since the high stam pool lets me fight without needing to pull away and recover too frequently.
    3. Exodium
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      Dyride wrote: »
      Apparently bone pirate is currently bugged (interface shows correct stats but they do not compute), let's hope it gets fixed today. if not, plan another combo of sets.

      That was fixed with Summerset patch.

      I've run a similar build to Exodium above but use Bone Pirate jewelry and 2 body 3 body pieces Armor Master and backbar Armor Master with weapon set frontbar. Slight change from his suggestion because I doubt anyone is interested in crafting 9-trait jewelry at least for a few weeks.

      Also running Prisoners Rags backbar (bow or 2H) with Impregnable on body pcs. Valkyn 2pc, and Master DW. Use medium Impregnable with Bow and heavy Impreg with 2H and Forward Momentum.

      Oh yeah that's right the easier way to run it in summerset without grinding is 3 bone pirate jewellry 2 armour and 3 Armour Master body and the 2h.

      The reason we use armour master is to make running bone pirate possible with a defensive set. All the other defensive sets (impreg, fortified) need to be double barred so bone pirate would not be possible..

      If you plan on using automaton or hulking then impreg or fortified ass would be better, and you can just have those damage sets on one bar.
    4. AAbrigo
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      It were a easy call to say what would be the meta if that gold food/drink would actually work on bone pirate.

      Then it would be:

      Gold drink
      5 shackle
      5 bone pirate
      2 troll king

      Stats would be insane!
    5. raasdal
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      5 x Sloads
      5 x Red Mountain
      2 x Troll King
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      Dexion Velus - Dragonknight - AD
      Chalaux Erissa - Nightblade - AD
      Firiel Erissa - Templar - AD
    6. Maulkin
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      raasdal wrote: »
      5 x Sloads
      5 x Red Mountain
      2 x Troll King

      Not enough cancer.

      5 x Sload
      5 x Viper
      2 x Skoria
      2 x Master Axes
      EU | PC | AD
    7. raasdal
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      Maulkin wrote: »
      raasdal wrote: »
      5 x Sloads
      5 x Red Mountain
      2 x Troll King

      Not enough cancer.

      5 x Sload
      5 x Viper
      2 x Skoria
      2 x Master Axes

      That's litterally the first time anyone ever told me that my build / playstyle / whatever, was not cancerous enough. Oh happy day! ;)

      EDIT: And if i had the stamina to endure grinding for Master Axes, i would totally be doing what you listed right there.
      Edited by raasdal on May 24, 2018 12:51PM
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      Dexion Velus - Dragonknight - AD
      Chalaux Erissa - Nightblade - AD
      Firiel Erissa - Templar - AD
    8. Xsorus
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      Maulkin wrote: »
      raasdal wrote: »
      5 x Sloads
      5 x Red Mountain
      2 x Troll King

      Not enough cancer.

      5 x Sload
      5 x Viper
      2 x Skoria
      2 x Master Axes

      This is what I’d run right now personally, I need the axes though
    9. Koolio
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      Personally I’m going to run
      Orc Serpent Mundus New Gold Food

      5 Morkuldin Back Bar Charged Bow with Disease
      5 Sheer Venom Body Everything Tri Glyph
      Bloodspawn/Troll king/Engine Guardian
      Vet Maelstrom Battle Axe with Double Damage Poisons

      I currently run this now just with 1 Domi

      It’s awesome to Poison inject someone then stampede to have Major Defile Poison Injection Poison status effect Morkuldin Sheer venom Maelstrom Dot Axe Bleed Double Damage Poison Dawnbreaker.

      8 Dots with 2 moves. But healing gets really low.
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