POLL: PvP Opt-out Token

MisterBigglesworth · May 2018

Would you pay 2,000 Crowns for a token that:

Permanently turns off the ability to enter Cyrodiil
Gives you all the Skyshards from Cyrodiil & Imperial City
Unlocks all the Alliance War abilities

Note: please specify other for any disagreements over Crown cost or purchasable with gold, Account-wide vs. Character, additional benefits, fewer benefits, etc.

Lichbourne90 · May 2018

No

A. PvP is life
B. If I know Zos that's way too cheap. I'm willing to say it would cost at least 20k

Aliyavana · May 2018

Pvpers need their easy gank ap killing pvers that don't fight back in quest hubs

AhPook_Is_Here · May 2018

Yes

Not for me, but I vote yes for you because you seem like a nice guy.

Taleof2Cities · May 2018

No

When there’s an opt-out for Undaunted Skill Line (in crowns) for PvP players then I might reconsider.

Ydrisselle · May 2018

No

If you need those PvP skills, get them in the game. If you want those skyshards, go and get them. Your solution is very close to a pay2win situation.

Voxicity · May 2018

No

No?????

VaranisArano · May 2018

No, because if I'd ever bought such a thing, I would have never learned to love PVP. And I would have enjoyed this game much less.

Betsararie · May 2018

No

We just assume it isn't serious. This will do nothing to help the game

swippy · May 2018

No

75 skillpoints for 2,000 crowns? sounds like p2w

or, if you're missing out on all 50 rank-up skillpoints, pay to lose

ZeroXFF · May 2018

Other

Add to the benefits the 50 PvP skill points and ability to get tel var stones and AP through other means, as well as placing the vendors outside of cyro, and I would consider it.

However the more elegant solution would be adding a pvp toggle. Once you turn off pvp on your char, you can no longer heal/buff/damage chars that have it enabled and vice versa, and you can no longer complete pvp objectives (capture keeps etc). After turning pvp on, if you try to turn it off again, it starts a timer (5-10 minutes). In this time you're still in pvp mode, but if you do no pvp in that time, it gets disabled once time runs out (to prevent trolls ganking and then switching pvp off once they see they are losing). The next step would be to enable this functionality in all of the world except for cities, and connect cyro to the rest of the world to make the experience more consistent.

generalmyrick · May 2018

No

pvp is fun...

i don't understand the folks that don't like it...just learn the pvp like you do pve!

as soon as i used a damage shield and respected the impen trait, pvp becomes 4500% more fun.

Tommy_The_Gun · May 2018

Other

PvE "training" campaign....

Of course - you would not be able to get AP, PvP Achievements etc. But doing PvE stuff like questing in cyrodiil & IC ? Why not ?
IC would be much more attractive for PvE players and ZOS would surely earn some $$$ out of it.

ZeroXFF · May 2018

Other

generalmyrick wrote: »

pvp is fun...

i don't understand the folks that don't like it...just learn the pvp like you do pve!

as soon as i used a damage shield and respected the impen trait, pvp becomes 4500% more fun.

0 fun + 4500% of 0 = 0 fun.

Hippie4927 · May 2018

No

I'm not even a PVP'er and I vote NO! My main has Master Angler, all skyshards, all Cyrodiil delve bosses, all Cyrodiil dolmens, and has discovered every area (poi) on the Cyrodiil map. It can be done without being a PVP'er. Did I ever die in the process? Sure! But who cares? I had fun doing all of that.

jedtb16_ESO · May 2018

Other

all the fish too?

Aebaradath · May 2018

Other

I voted Other because I like that option.

But no.

Bigevilpeter · May 2018

Yes

For 2k? that would be amazing I hate pvp and only do it for skills, but that's never gonna happen

Colecovision · May 2018

How about this? Every skill you unlock in alliance also unlocks once in undaunted and vice cersa. Every skill point you put into one adds a skillpoint in the other as well. Im curious to see if I would be at least be a little less squishy in pvp if I had the passives. It's honestly the stupidest system ive ever seen. It's david vs goliath only ZoS gave goliath the sling shot.

Oh, and upon entering cyrodil divines gear becomes impen and vice versa. Give us a freaking chance!!!

generalmyrick · May 2018

No

ZeroXFF wrote: »

generalmyrick wrote: »

pvp is fun...

i don't understand the folks that don't like it...just learn the pvp like you do pve!

as soon as i used a damage shield and respected the impen trait, pvp becomes 4500% more fun.

0 fun + 4500% of 0 = 0 fun.

someone in my guild, a really cool dude!, got to max cp without a drop of pvping...

he killed someone for the first time in pvp the other day and nearly *** himself with happieness...

so, at least 0.1 fun! :-)

BaneOfBattler · May 2018

No

You sure are thin skinned.

I'm no expert at pvp but sometimes i like to hop there. Also the part of where you could be in danger while getting skyshards and delving or questing is ok.

ZeroXFF · May 2018

Other

generalmyrick wrote: »

ZeroXFF wrote: »

generalmyrick wrote: »

pvp is fun...

i don't understand the folks that don't like it...just learn the pvp like you do pve!

as soon as i used a damage shield and respected the impen trait, pvp becomes 4500% more fun.

0 fun + 4500% of 0 = 0 fun.

someone in my guild, a really cool dude!, got to max cp without a drop of pvping...

he killed someone for the first time in pvp the other day and nearly *** himself with happieness...

so, at least 0.1 fun! :-)

I did BGs to level alliance skills on some of my chars, and killed others multiple times, and I only started hating it more, because I could be doing something actually fun in that time.

Vizier · May 2018

No

PvPers suffer through PVE Content ALL THE TIME in order to get the gear and achievements etc, that benefit them in PvP. PVEers can suffer through some PvP content...just saying. No Sympathy.

SydneyGrey · May 2018

No

As much as I'd want all those skyshards, I voted "no" because it would be a slippery slope toward becoming a pay-to-win game.

Sovjet · May 2018

No

That's just re......, I meant a bad idea!

Feanor · May 2018

Other

Undaunted 10, Mages Guild 10, Fighters Guild 10 and Psijiic 10 then too. And that’s why it’s bad!

Beardimus · May 2018

No

Really. NOt needed.

Alliances skills take a few hours, as do skyshards. Or go wild and actually play with players on an MMO. The horror, I know...

KingofAnnwn · May 2018

No

Na, not for me. PvP is a nice change of pace, even if I do suck at it. I quite enjoy sneaking through enemy territory to complete dolmens and collect skyshards, it's part of the thrill.

ayu_fever · May 2018

i would pay 100k crowns for this
#pveplayersmatter

Shadow_Akula · May 2018

Other

I don’t think is the solution for PVE players who only wanna do quests, skyshard hunt or fish for the achievements. However how about something like safe mode from GTA - for those who don’t know about GTA and safe mode, basically in an online session a player can open up a quick menu and select an option called safe mode which means that the griefers can’t touch them - the balance to this is that this player cannot become a CEO or Motorcycle club chief, meaning this player cannot run any of their businesses while in safe mode.

Now in ESO we obviously don’t have businesses, CEO, MCC’s, etc. A couple of ideas to balance this -
1. Auto-disables when near a keep/resource that’s under siege - players who are just PVE-ing should not have any business near a keep/resource - towns however are a different story (no idea how to balance it around towns, well unless zenimax undo their mistake and remove the PVP element from towns since they are quest hubs) - also within IC it would auto-disable if the player goes near a flag (The auto-disable zone would have to be small, so maybe just the area where the flag sits?)
2. If the player decides to disable in order to attack an enemy then safemode is disabled for the duration of the session for that one player. (This option seems a little harsher but it reduces the chance of players using safe mode as an exploit to gank)
3. If the player has a PVP quest (bounty boards, scroll quests etc.) then safemode is auto-disabled until these quests are handed in.
4. Costs 0 crown per use, however could cost I dunno say 5k in gold? - in GTA this mode is free (both virtual and real world money) - gold cost needs to be low enough that PVE players will be able to pay the toll, yet high enough that PVPers may think twice about using it to exploit.
5. There would have to be a visual cue to let players know they’re in safe mode - GTA makes the player transparent/see through

Sorry for the unusually long post - Also just want to point out that there’s probably better ways to balance this idea out I just typed the first ideas that came to mind.

imnotanother · May 2018

No

No such thing as a free lunch.

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