Magicka warden support for pvp

Nick1620 · May 2018

Hey guys!
I want to lvl magicka warden, mainly for support in pvp. Now im thinking about Breton, 5 heavy, 1med 1 light, s/b+ frost staff. What can you recommend, i take every advice

Starlight_Knight · May 2018

Before you do "bear" in mind that magica warden is in a very bad place for pvp and will not be as good as a templar - however they can be fun and offer the utility you might be looking for.
I highly recommend running necropotence and shacklebreaker and one piece domihaus and resto and destro, But if you wanted to run snb i would swap the necro out for somthing like transmutation or lich or even healer set or spc only be active on the back bar. and that way you can run a monster set of your choice.
Run max magica mundus stone to and all impen on the gear.

Nick1620 · May 2018

Hayden_Knight wrote: »

Before you do "bear" in mind that magica warden is in a very bad place for pvp and will not be as good as a templar - however they can be fun and offer the utility you might be looking for.
I highly recommend running necropotence and shacklebreaker and one piece domihaus and resto and destro, But if you wanted to run snb i would swap the necro out for somthing like transmutation or lich or even healer set or spc only be active on the back bar. and that way you can run a monster set of your choice.
Run max magica mundus stone to and all impen on the gear.

yeah i m just playing with my friend, im not going to dps or tanking, just warden has unigue skills thats why i wanna try suport role

Lexxypwns · May 2018

Mag warden is not in a bad place for support in a duo, not at all. Here’s the deal, 5 heavy is all but required, you use natures grasp for mobility, you use your HoTs proactively and contribute to burst with Fissure. Mushroom heal is awful in pvp.

You’ll need to decide on a heavy 5pc. Durok’s, Shackle, Impreg, and Julianos are all in consideration. There might be others I’m missing.

You’ll want to run a Support based 5pc. Trans, Wizards, SPC(until summerset), etc.

For undaunted, don’t overthink it, just run Earthgore. Track your Earthgore cooldown and alternate that and Thicket as much as possible. If you don’t have Earthgore you can run either Troll King or Bloodspawn depending on which feels better for your group

Mag warden is best in a duo with a stam warden, but it has great synergy with stam DK and any Duroks based build is insane with stam sorc as well

Maulkin · May 2018

I feel like Durok is a bit of a wasted set on MagDen when you can put down Corrupting Pollen. Especially since the 2-4p bonuses are kinda meh.

I do like a frost build on a MagDen with Winterborn and Master Ice staff. It’s probably the most effective build in a group in terms of unending soft CC and tons of aoe. You put down Frost Blockade and Winter’s Revenge, you spam Frost Reach and Winterborn procs like crazy. The other set can be a heavy Shackle or sturdy Impreg.

Tryxus · May 2018

MagDen is def not in a bad place if we're talking about a group support build, and they'll be even nastier next update.

Breton is a solid choice for a MagDen, Argonian would be the other great choice

If you're building in Heavy Armor, the 2 best base sets (imo) would be Kagrenac's Hope, crafted set for faster rezzes and extra spell damage, or Fasalla's Guile, to turn your Warden into a Defiling Machine (Major Defile from Corrupting Pollen and Befoul CP for stronger Defiles).

Then you can add a 2nd set, like Transmutation. If someone else in the group is alrdy running that, you can use others like SPC, Gossamer, ...

As for monster sets, there's Earthgore which is currently the meta for PvP healers. Another good one is Troll King as there should def be at least 1 person in the group running this.

exeeter702 · May 2018

Magden healers are def not in a bad place at all. And easily give wardens a run for their money in terms of raw tankyness. And personally their damage contributions are slightly better as well.

In no CP ive seen some warden healers rock sanctuary with the various support sets (trans, riposte) to good effect. In cp, 5h is the way to go though without question. If earth gore is out of your reach you need to make it not out of your reach, its simply the best option for healers, and its incoming nerf next patch is hardly a deal breaker. It should be a high priority for you.

The heavy sets mentioned in the thread are all good options. Personally i like julianos or if you are going to assist with sub assault and birds or either impreg or duroks if you are going for shear deterrence.

Lexxypwns · May 2018

Maulkin wrote: »

I feel like Durok is a bit of a wasted set on MagDen when you can put down Corrupting Pollen. Especially since the 2-4p bonuses are kinda meh.

I do like a frost build on a MagDen with Winterborn and Master Ice staff. It’s probably the most effective build in a group in terms of unending soft CC and tons of aoe. You put down Frost Blockade and Winter’s Revenge, you spam Frost Reach and Winterborn procs like crazy. The other set can be a heavy Shackle or sturdy Impreg.

Here’s why Durok gets consideration for me. First, it’s great as a single bar set and second it either opens up a skill slot or lets you take the morph that creates an on demand heal. Second, there’s a lack of appealing heavy sets.

If, for example, running Duroks allows me to run 2x Earthgore and pair 2x 5pc sets. While also freeing me up to slot other useful skills then it won’t ever be outperformed by Shackle.(Durok+Trans+EG>Shackle+Trans+1 Domi+X)

Also, doesn’t Warden have health based HoTs? That could make the line of health from Duroks more valuable meaning only 2 of the bonuses are less attractive.

Mojomonkeyman · May 2018

Lexxypwns wrote: »

Mag warden is not in a bad place for support in a duo, not at all. Here’s the deal, 5 heavy is all but required, you use natures grasp for mobility, you use your HoTs proactively and contribute to burst with Fissure. Mushroom heal is awful in pvp.

You’ll need to decide on a heavy 5pc. Durok’s, Shackle, Impreg, and Julianos are all in consideration. There might be others I’m missing.

You’ll want to run a Support based 5pc. Trans, Wizards, SPC(until summerset), etc.

For undaunted, don’t overthink it, just run Earthgore. Track your Earthgore cooldown and alternate that and Thicket as much as possible. If you don’t have Earthgore you can run either Troll King or Bloodspawn depending on which feels better for your group

Mag warden is best in a duo with a stam warden, but it has great synergy with stam DK and any Duroks based build is insane with stam sorc as well

I main a magwarden and I've rarely read so much nonsense.

Lexxypwns · May 2018

Mojomonkeyman wrote: »

Lexxypwns wrote: »

Mag warden is not in a bad place for support in a duo, not at all. Here’s the deal, 5 heavy is all but required, you use natures grasp for mobility, you use your HoTs proactively and contribute to burst with Fissure. Mushroom heal is awful in pvp.

You’ll need to decide on a heavy 5pc. Durok’s, Shackle, Impreg, and Julianos are all in consideration. There might be others I’m missing.

You’ll want to run a Support based 5pc. Trans, Wizards, SPC(until summerset), etc.

For undaunted, don’t overthink it, just run Earthgore. Track your Earthgore cooldown and alternate that and Thicket as much as possible. If you don’t have Earthgore you can run either Troll King or Bloodspawn depending on which feels better for your group

Mag warden is best in a duo with a stam warden, but it has great synergy with stam DK and any Duroks based build is insane with stam sorc as well

I main a magwarden and I've rarely read so much nonsense.

Care to elaborate? My most common duo partner is a mag warden and literally runs a combination of those sets to great success both open world and BGs.

Typically I just see you talk about maiming a mag warden and how everyone else’s builds are bad but not actually contribute anything. Wow! Such Skill! Very Warden!

brandonv516 · May 2018

I've played with @Lexxypwns and he most definitely knows how to play MagDen.

I wouldn't mind seeing more gameplay from others though as I find it a frustrating class and end up just playing my MagPlar lol.

Joy_Division · May 2018

"Good for support group role" means throw-your-computer-out-the-window-frustrating-to-play if you ever find yourself outside said group that is covering up the flaws of the class

Brutusmax1mus · May 2018

I literally just set up a duroks/ desert rose healer yesterday for a 3man group. It became a 4 man so i switched to trans instead of rose. It worked great.

I can go over the specifics if you want. The only thing i didn't like was how you slide everywhere, although it's a great mechanic to keep yourself safe. I wish the caster didn't always get a hot, bc often I'm casting this un succession to apply to my friends, but whatever.

Also, frozen gate has awful elevation issues. I thought it was going to be awesome in towers, it couldn't even pull from flag to the tower.