I guess Zenimax has made use of that Mature rating with Dibella

ArchMikem · May 2018

Edit: Some people are taking this as a complaint against the nudity. lol Make sure to read that last sentence guys, I'm thanking them for it.

I've always thought ZOS wouldn't "free the ***", mainly because of the sizable young portion of the playerbase, but there it is, easily seen on Dibella's statue. I mean it's tasteful definitely, but still visible. I'm wondering though, isn't this the same model for the statue of Dibella in her Temple in Anvil? I'm guessing it is, since ZOS makes use of already existing assets, but with that statue it's quite difficult to get a good enough view of the entire model in there. (yeah, I've tried before) Now we get that good look.

I didn't even buy the pack for that statue either, I fell in love with that flowered Pergola, and now my House is beautifully green and flowery. But yeah, I'm impressed more than anything. I appreciate the game having a tad more mature themes in it.

Aliyavana · May 2018

Those kids shouldn't be playing anyways

Shad0wfire99 · May 2018

*** are more shocking than murder. What a world.
^ Case in point.

DoctorESO · May 2018

ArchMikem wrote: »

I've always thought ZOS wouldn't "free the ***", mainly because of the sizable young portion of the playerbase, but there it is, easily seen on Dibella's statue. I mean it's tasteful definitely, but still visible. I'm wondering though, isn't this the same model for the statue of Dibella in her Temple in Anvil? I'm guessing it is, since ZOS makes use of already existing assets, but with that statue it's quite difficult to get a good enough view of the entire model in there. (yeah, I've tried before) Now we get that good look.

I didn't even buy the pack for that statue either, I fell in love with that flowered Pergola, and now my House is beautifully green and flowery. But yeah, I'm impressed more than anything. I appreciate the game having a tad more mature themes in it.

Daedra are technically neither male nor female, so that image can depict something other than what is implied. Although, it is more likely that the statue is a manifestation, which can be male and female.

ArchMikem · May 2018

Shad0wfire99 wrote: »

*** are more shocking than murder. What a world.
^ Case in point.

Your sentence, and how it was censored is just amazing.

Aliyavana · May 2018

DoctorESO wrote: »

ArchMikem wrote: »

I've always thought ZOS wouldn't "free the ***", mainly because of the sizable young portion of the playerbase, but there it is, easily seen on Dibella's statue. I mean it's tasteful definitely, but still visible. I'm wondering though, isn't this the same model for the statue of Dibella in her Temple in Anvil? I'm guessing it is, since ZOS makes use of already existing assets, but with that statue it's quite difficult to get a good enough view of the entire model in there. (yeah, I've tried before) Now we get that good look.

I didn't even buy the pack for that statue either, I fell in love with that flowered Pergola, and now my House is beautifully green and flowery. But yeah, I'm impressed more than anything. I appreciate the game having a tad more mature themes in it.

Daedra are technically neither male nor female, so that image can depict something other than what is implied. Although, it is more likely that the statue is a manifestation, which can be male and female.

That's an aedra

DoctorESO · May 2018

Shad0wfire99 wrote: »

*** are more shocking than murder. What a world.
^ Case in point.

Interesting point. But if murder is the worst crime and murder is okay to depict, then wouldn't that mean any other grotesque crime, lewd explicit image, etc. is okay to depict? Why have we been conditioned to be shocked?

ArchMikem · May 2018

DoctorESO wrote: »

Shad0wfire99 wrote: »

*** are more shocking than murder. What a world.
^ Case in point.

Interesting point. But if murder is the worst crime and murder is okay to depict, then wouldn't that mean any other grotesque crime, lewd explicit image, etc. is okay to depict? Why have we been conditioned to be shocked?

You can thank the Church for one.

DoctorESO · May 2018

ArchMikem wrote: »

DoctorESO wrote: »

Shad0wfire99 wrote: »

*** are more shocking than murder. What a world.
^ Case in point.

Interesting point. But if murder is the worst crime and murder is okay to depict, then wouldn't that mean any other grotesque crime, lewd explicit image, etc. is okay to depict? Why have we been conditioned to be shocked?

You can thank the Church for one.

Without getting into religion, why would it be taught (by any institution) that murder is more acceptable than you know what?

Knootewoot · May 2018

I was going to buy it. But like some houses it might change after purchase. Take a good look at those jugglers. It might be your last look at them. They might be covered at a later patch
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Luthivar · May 2018

Where do you see mature content? This is a statue. Yes, an imperial (roman) statue shows ***. It could sometimes show even "more". That's called classical art, not adult content and you don't have to protect your children from it.

Edit:[snip], oh what a bad word. Glad I'm not american and can keep my "dirty" mouth unwashed

[Edit for censor bypass.]

Everstorm · May 2018

ArchMikem wrote: »

DoctorESO wrote: »

Shad0wfire99 wrote: »

*** are more shocking than murder. What a world.
^ Case in point.

Interesting point. But if murder is the worst crime and murder is okay to depict, then wouldn't that mean any other grotesque crime, lewd explicit image, etc. is okay to depict? Why have we been conditioned to be shocked?

You can thank the Church for one.

And yet God said "go forth and multiply" and not "go forth and reduce.

ArchMikem · May 2018

Everstorm wrote: »

ArchMikem wrote: »

DoctorESO wrote: »

Shad0wfire99 wrote: »

*** are more shocking than murder. What a world.
^ Case in point.

Interesting point. But if murder is the worst crime and murder is okay to depict, then wouldn't that mean any other grotesque crime, lewd explicit image, etc. is okay to depict? Why have we been conditioned to be shocked?

You can thank the Church for one.

And yet God said "go forth and multiply" and not "go forth and reduce.

Human interpretation is always a fluid thing isn't it.

zaria · May 2018

Luthivar wrote: »

Where do you see mature content? This is a statue. Yes, an imperial (roman) statue shows ***. It could sometimes show even "more". That's called classical art, not adult content and you don't have to protect your children from it.

Edit: [snip], oh what a bad word. Glad I'm not american and can keep my "dirty" mouth unwashed

[Edit for censor bypass.]

This its an statue, classical statues often show way more and they are in museums.
Now many games would be careful about stuff like that because of US rating rules.

TheUndeadAmulet · May 2018

DoctorESO wrote: »

ArchMikem wrote: »

DoctorESO wrote: »

Shad0wfire99 wrote: »

*** are more shocking than murder. What a world.
^ Case in point.

Interesting point. But if murder is the worst crime and murder is okay to depict, then wouldn't that mean any other grotesque crime, lewd explicit image, etc. is okay to depict? Why have we been conditioned to be shocked?

You can thank the Church for one.

Without getting into religion, why would it be taught (by any institution) that murder is more acceptable than you know what?

Because the children must keep their innocence for as long as possible!

Heimpai · May 2018

Don’t we have naked male statues in irl? Does that make irl rated X?

Tasear · May 2018

DoctorESO wrote: »

Shad0wfire99 wrote: »

*** are more shocking than murder. What a world.
^ Case in point.

Interesting point. But if murder is the worst crime and murder is okay to depict, then wouldn't that mean any other grotesque crime, lewd explicit image, etc. is okay to depict? Why have we been conditioned to be shocked?

Social normality made policy makers of community and culture establishment. It's not bad though, it's more of form of respect for woman. In some ways it is protecting woman's body or well that's one way one could look at situation at hand. L

How I feel is definitely started, but it was unnoticed till pointed out. Still it's a good depiction of natural beauty from this women's point of view. Not over the line, but on point to feel natural

Shardan4968 · May 2018

This is statue you know? I was learning about greek statues with breasts and male *** out when I was 12...

ArchMikem · May 2018

Tasear wrote: »

DoctorESO wrote: »

Shad0wfire99 wrote: »

*** are more shocking than murder. What a world.
^ Case in point.

Interesting point. But if murder is the worst crime and murder is okay to depict, then wouldn't that mean any other grotesque crime, lewd explicit image, etc. is okay to depict? Why have we been conditioned to be shocked?

Social normality made policy makers of community and culture establishment. It's not bad though, it's more of form of respect for woman. In some ways it is protecting woman's body or well that's one way one could look at situation at hand.

While not wanting to start an off topic discussion, the idea behind hiding the female anatomy in order to protect and respect a woman's body is an increasingly mistaken concept. As making something unreachable and hidden only exaggerates the desires for it, ie. the phrase "Taking it away only makes me want it more.". As a current sufferer of Anxiety, one of the treatments is to try and desensitize yourself to what causes the Anxiety, in order to reestablish normalcy thus taking away it's effect on you. The same can be applied to the naked Human body. If we were desensitized to nudity from the start, then it becomes a non issue later in life. There would be no need to protect something that was no longer "precious".

We should really get back to the statue now. :P It's a nice statue. Quite large actually, I almost couldn't fit it in my house.

Knootewoot · May 2018

Luthivar wrote: »

Where do you see mature content? This is a statue. Yes, an imperial (roman) statue shows ***. It could sometimes show even "more". That's called classical art, not adult content and you don't have to protect your children from it.

Edit:[snip], oh what a bad word. Glad I'm not american and can keep my "dirty" mouth unwashed

[Edit for censor bypass.]

I love greek/roman statues and figurines. That was real art, same as the buildings.

ArchMikem · May 2018

I also made this out of two screenshots. It really is nice, especially when the flowers and book came with it.

Tasear · May 2018

ArchMikem wrote: »

Tasear wrote: »

DoctorESO wrote: »

Shad0wfire99 wrote: »

*** are more shocking than murder. What a world.
^ Case in point.

Interesting point. But if murder is the worst crime and murder is okay to depict, then wouldn't that mean any other grotesque crime, lewd explicit image, etc. is okay to depict? Why have we been conditioned to be shocked?

Social normality made policy makers of community and culture establishment. It's not bad though, it's more of form of respect for woman. In some ways it is protecting woman's body or well that's one way one could look at situation at hand.

While not wanting to start an off topic discussion, the idea behind hiding the female anatomy in order to protect and respect a woman's body is an increasingly mistaken concept. As making something unreachable and hidden only exaggerates the desires for it, ie. the phrase "Taking it away only makes me want it more.". As a current sufferer of Anxiety, one of the treatments is to try and desensitize yourself to what causes the Anxiety, in order to reestablish normalcy thus taking away it's effect on you. The same can be applied to the naked Human body. If we were desensitized to nudity from the start, then it becomes a non issue later in life. There would be no need to protect something that was no longer "precious".

We should really get back to the statue now. :P It's a nice statue. Quite large actually, I almost couldn't fit it in my house.

It's still on topic as relates, but maybe it helped protect females from predators back in more primative days. Still I do see you point, yet find myself thinking there's some merit in this old founded belief. Not that I believe such things but wonder at cause of such things.

To me it's more shocking how progressive and refined the game is on content. Such small things make me enjoy world more. Idk but I kinda want the statue now.

ShadowMonarch · May 2018

It shouldn't really matter unless your under the assumption that kids don't know what a *** is lol. I don't know about you but I am a guy and I have *** so I do in fact know and have always known they do exist. It's not like people are going to get their kicks off staring at a digital statue.

Dibella Statues were crafted in this manor even in skyrim and that was the most kid friendly RPG they have made, so much to the point that it probably damaged the world building and quest detailing.

People need to get real, its not up their spread eagle going to town or anything.

Everstorm · May 2018

Heimpai wrote: »

Don’t we have naked male statues in irl? Does that make irl rated X?

Couple of years ago Italy put wooden boxes over nude statues in a museum when the Iranian prime minister came to visit.

Heimpai · May 2018

Everstorm wrote: »

Heimpai wrote: »

Don’t we have naked male statues in irl? Does that make irl rated X?

Couple of years ago Italy put wooden boxes over nude statues in a museum when the Iranian prime minister came to visit.

You just made my day lmao, i would never cover art let alone historical art

logarifmik · May 2018

You seriously discussing a statue ***? Is it forbidden for a kids to see ***? From what age? I saw my first, when I was one year old. Seriously, it's just an ancient-like statue of a beautiful women, stop corrupting children with your puritanism. It's XXI century, not XVII.

Iselin · May 2018

logarifmik wrote: »

I saw my first, when I was one year old.

Bottle fed?

zaria · May 2018

ArchMikem wrote: »

I also made this out of two screenshots. It really is nice, especially when the flowers and book came with it.

I would bought it but its to large for serenity fall estate.

Kikke · May 2018

Hey, americans. there are others than you playing the game you know?

and us European dont think a naked body is worse than murder, therefore we dont care about a *** in a 18+ rated game.

VerboseQuips · May 2018

Well, concerning Dibella, anything more prudish would be lore-breaking.

I find this statue beautiful and tasteful, the artists made a very nice work with it.

Everstorm wrote: »

Heimpai wrote: »

Don’t we have naked male statues in irl? Does that make irl rated X?

Couple of years ago Italy put wooden boxes over nude statues in a museum when the Iranian prime minister came to visit.

That's stupid and it's a shame for the museum, in my opinion.

Glenmorils · May 2018

Tasear wrote: »

ArchMikem wrote: »

Tasear wrote: »

DoctorESO wrote: »

Shad0wfire99 wrote: »

*** are more shocking than murder. What a world.
^ Case in point.

Interesting point. But if murder is the worst crime and murder is okay to depict, then wouldn't that mean any other grotesque crime, lewd explicit image, etc. is okay to depict? Why have we been conditioned to be shocked?

Social normality made policy makers of community and culture establishment. It's not bad though, it's more of form of respect for woman. In some ways it is protecting woman's body or well that's one way one could look at situation at hand.

While not wanting to start an off topic discussion, the idea behind hiding the female anatomy in order to protect and respect a woman's body is an increasingly mistaken concept. As making something unreachable and hidden only exaggerates the desires for it, ie. the phrase "Taking it away only makes me want it more.". As a current sufferer of Anxiety, one of the treatments is to try and desensitize yourself to what causes the Anxiety, in order to reestablish normalcy thus taking away it's effect on you. The same can be applied to the naked Human body. If we were desensitized to nudity from the start, then it becomes a non issue later in life. There would be no need to protect something that was no longer "precious".

We should really get back to the statue now. :P It's a nice statue. Quite large actually, I almost couldn't fit it in my house.

It's still on topic as relates, but maybe it helped protect females from predators back in more primative days. Still I do see you point, yet find myself thinking there's some merit in this old founded belief. Not that I believe such things but wonder at cause of such things.

To me it's more shocking how progressive and refined the game is on content. Such small things make me enjoy world more. Idk but I kinda want the statue now.

Historically speaking it was more about control of women as they were seen as inherently impure and also property of men. (Speaking on societies that make women cover up.)

We see many societies both past and present where a woman’s breast’s are seen as no more scandalous than her arm. They serve a purpose and aren’t eroticized.