What does it mean to be healer in ESO for you?

Priyasekarssk · May 2018

idk wrote: »

Priyasekarssk wrote: »

Silver_Strider wrote: »

PUG healing is the worst. It's rare for anyone to pop orbs and even more rare to get DPS that know what they're doing. I just throw on a DPS set like Julianos, keep up my HoTs and if you die, chances are high it was most likely your own fault (love those people that stand in stupid and blame you).

Many of the times , I use orbs and invaluable for magicka buffs. I dont expect healers to always provide that.
Purge is most important skill for healer on vet HM. Every now & then I have to run towards location to clear debuffs or slot purge myself.

Only 1 in 10 healers have that skill slotted. It is very important skill for healer on hard contents for a competent group. Pathetic thing , many healers dont even know important of that skill and group is expecting from them ,when debuffed , espeically on harder content. There are debuffs which cannot be healed. Some debuffs like miam/snares will decrease damage output drastically.

Also barrier is way too good than restro ultimate , especially during boss bursts., where majority of group wipes happen.

Shields >> Heals . Shields at important times is what makes difference between pro healer & ordinary healer.

Healers cannot heal one shot mechanics. Again I rarely see, good healers to provide ultimate on burst time.
Again I never played healer.

Barrier is overkill in vet dungeons unless that group is really bad at avoiding damage and mechanics. In trials healers usually use War Horn for the damage buff and they tend to use the same in vet dungeon as a result. Sometimes a templar will use nova if damage reduction is helpful.

I cannot recall many dungeons where purge is very useful. Most of the dots in vet dungeons that can be cleansed do not hit very hard. The hardest hitting dot I can recall in a vet dungeon is from the Planar Inhibitor from vWGT and that dot is not cleansable. One needs to work the mechanic. In some of the newer trials, yes purge is helpful.

Heck, I have healed a lot of dungeons over the years in ESO and, again unless the group is bad at avoiding damage, I hardly have to heal and usually add to the dps, especially if I have joined a random group.

Barrier may be overkill. But it make group survive on burst phase. In vet trials healers always do that during burst phase, so that group will get some time to save themselves. In HM vet dungeons, during boss burst phase & execution phase, it will make everyone life easier. Somtimes a group member may be at far off location and can take sometime to reach safety.

Purge is very useful on many HM dungeons. It looks like highly situational. Its not. DOTs , snares, defiles hits pretty hard when doing in HM. Its not only DOTs. It removes a lot of snares and removes negative effects that reduces damage output & defiles. Snares also decreases your damage output indirectly even though its says it reduces only movement speed..

Asardes · May 2018

The only two dungeons I can think of purge is useful:
- Cradle of Shadows: you can purge Velidreth's healing debuff
- Fang Lair: you can purge away the chains on the skeleton boss with the ghost on top
Other than that, I cannot really think of one place I used them. Yes, in trials purge is really useful. vMoL twins and vHoF in quite a bit of fights.

FrancisCrawford · May 2018

exiars10 wrote: »

MuchShock wrote: »

For me being a healer is switching back to my dps main because of potato 3k dps DDs who think they are OP and blame you for everything anyway

This. Only way being a healer in PUG group dungeons is to go hybrid route i.e. Restoration + Lightning Staff and do as much as DPS as you can. I easily do 10k DPS without even seriously trying (magicka Sorcerer and Bosmer...).

Being heal/buff bot in PUG is complete waste of time and healers are unfortunately mostly obsolete in the most group dungeons... Sure when I once in a time I get a "high" DPS group (i.e. 30+k) it's all right to use Warhhorn and Elemental Drain otherwise no, use Elemental Rage and slot some DPS spell. I see in the first pull which group I get so adapt to it.

Also SPC set is useless in your typical average PUG (~15-20k DPS). I run Julianos as you never count on others to do properly their role. I mean I constantly have situations when I type boss mechanics and people still do what they shouldn't than die (and maybe say sorry).

TL; DR
Buffing group with low-average DPS is massive wate of time - just heal when needed and do DPS by yourself.

While my experiences are obviously similar to yours, SPC is never a waste, even if you're doing 40-60%+ of group DPS yourself.

Tasear · May 2018

Asardes wrote: »

The only two dungeons I can think of purge is useful:
- Cradle of Shadows: you can purge Velidreth's healing debuff
- Fang Lair: you can purge away the chains on the skeleton boss with the ghost on top
Other than that, I cannot really think of one place I used them. Yes, in trials purge is really useful. vMoL twins and vHoF in quite a bit of fights.

First boss in peak, orge twins, can be used to lessen damage from side twin on tank.

gabriebe · May 2018

The new trend of 'we need a healer' and then you show up and they ask you to pull 30K dps is downright annoying lately. I'm a healer. I heal. I give you all the buffs you need to increase your damage, and yes some thought went into my build even though I'm not running exactly what you want (aka I know what ele drain is, it's not on the boss simply because I use Siphon Spirit, a skill which you can Google for yoursef).

End of rant.

Tasear · May 2018

gabriebe wrote: »

The new trend of 'we need a healer' and then you show up and they ask you to pull 30K dps is downright annoying lately. I'm a healer. I heal. I give you all the buffs you need to increase your damage, and yes some thought went into my build even though I'm not running exactly what you want (aka I know what ele drain is, it's not on the boss simply because I use Siphon Spirit, a skill which you can Google for yoursef).

End of rant.

Yeah sometimes they want the world. I need debuffs, don't forget to interrupt, where's healing, we need more buffs, where are the orbs, and now not enough dps. What gear are you using. Hmm... Yeah

Kuwhar · May 2018

If a DPS dies that's a lot more costly to group effectiveness than me focusing solely on healing/buffs.

I've yet to have any complaints, but I can imagine that if/when I do it'll be from one of those DPS that blazes ahead of the tank and starts fighting without paying attention to where the rest of the group is.