Asardes wrote: »

I don't play with PuGs, and as a result when I play as healer, I usually do the proper healer things, meaning healing, buffing, debuffing and giving sustain to the group:

1) Heals: Combat Prayer, Ritual of Retribution/Extended Ritual, Healing Springs or Rapid Regeneration/Mutagen, sometimes Breath of Life or Ward Ally, Cleanse/Efficient purge - that's basically "use it or go home" in some trials, Reviving Barrier - mostly for the passive recovery, but also good for saving the group in difficult situations, for example if the tank and/or other healer is down.

2) Buffs:
- Combat Prayer: Minor Berserk (+8% damage done), Minor Resolve & Ward (+1320 physical & spell resistance)
- Aggressive Horn: +10% magicka, stamina & health and Major Force (+15% critical damage) for 9.5s
- Spell Power Cure: Major Courage (+258 weapon & spell damage), an upcoming set will grant the same buff
- Lord Warden: +3870 physical & spell resistance in 8 m radius when getting hit - as of Summerset you will be able to slot a full monster set and 2 x 5 piece sets due to staves counting as 2 pieces; this will arguably be one of the best
- Sanctuary: 12% healing received may not seem much, but some trials and dungeons put strong healing debuffs on players
- Quick Siphon/Overflowing Altar (rarely): Minor Lifesteal (600 heal per second when damaging an enemy) - usually the tank slots that skill, or if he's a Warden he can slot Leeching Vines and apply it automatically
- Twilight Remedy (rarely): Minor Force (+10% critical damage) - all stamina DDs and some Magicka ones slot Rearming Trap, magicka ones will gain access to Channeled Acceleration skill that grants the same next patch, but they may not have space on their bars for it

3) Debuffs:
- Elemental Drain: Major Breach (-5280 spell resistance)
- Elemental Blockade: concussed/off-balanced, though the up time to that debuff has been reduced to 25% for bosses
- Infallible Mage: Minor Vulnerability (+8 damage taken) some enemies cannot be off-balanced, so this accomplishes the same goal
- Healing Mage (aka. Mending): Reduces the Weapon damage (?) of enemies within 10 m of you by 430 - not sure how effective is the damage reduction, since I don't know the base value for various enemies, and how the ability damage scales with it but some people consider it effective

4) Sustain:
- Energy Orb/Luminous Shard sinergy to directly restore the highest resource pool
- Elemental Drain/Radiant Aura: Minor Magickasteal (300 magicka back per second from hitting enemies with spells)
- Worm's Raiment: reduces the magicka cost by 4% - may not seem much but at low recovery is quite effective especially if you don't do many heavy attacks
- Master's Restoration staff: Rejuvenation - first tick of healing spring restores 258 stamina - may not seem much but for some situations where you need to do a lot of block casting because various mechanics it's still quite good
- Sentinel of Rkugamz: restores 524 stamina per second for 8 seconds with 15 seconds cooldown to allies in the area, this is also quite good as monster set, but the robot will die from AoE damage so I prefer Lord Warden in such situations.

If I do happen to play with PuGs - mostly happens in normal dungeons when I farm a specific gear piece - I wear full damage setup and only provide Ritual of Retribution (heal), Elemental Drain (debuff), and Blazing Spear (sustain), since those fit quite nicely in my DPS rotation. I have quite high stats so the heals from the former are quite enough to survive, unless you do something extremely stupid, which is not my problem.

Asardes wrote: »

Tasear wrote: »

Asardes wrote: »

I don't play with PuGs, and as a result when I play as healer, I usually do the proper healer things, meaning healing, buffing, debuffing and giving sustain to the group:

1) Heals: Combat Prayer, Ritual of Retribution/Extended Ritual, Healing Springs or Rapid Regeneration/Mutagen, sometimes Breath of Life or Ward Ally, Cleanse/Efficient purge - that's basically "use it or go home" in some trials, Reviving Barrier - mostly for the passive recovery, but also good for saving the group in difficult situations, for example if the tank and/or other healer is down.

2) Buffs:
- Combat Prayer: Minor Berserk (+8% damage done), Minor Resolve & Ward (+1320 physical & spell resistance)
- Aggressive Horn: +10% magicka, stamina & health and Major Force (+15% critical damage) for 9.5s
- Spell Power Cure: Major Courage (+258 weapon & spell damage), an upcoming set will grant the same buff
- Lord Warden: +3870 physical & spell resistance in 8 m radius when getting hit - as of Summerset you will be able to slot a full monster set and 2 x 5 piece sets due to staves counting as 2 pieces; this will arguably be one of the best
- Sanctuary: 12% healing received may not seem much, but some trials and dungeons put strong healing debuffs on players
- Quick Siphon/Overflowing Altar (rarely): Minor Lifesteal (600 heal per second when damaging an enemy) - usually the tank slots that skill, or if he's a Warden he can slot Leeching Vines and apply it automatically
- Twilight Remedy (rarely): Minor Force (+10% critical damage) - all stamina DDs and some Magicka ones slot Rearming Trap, magicka ones will gain access to Channeled Acceleration skill that grants the same next patch, but they may not have space on their bars for it

3) Debuffs:
- Elemental Drain: Major Breach (-5280 spell resistance)
- Elemental Blockade: concussed/off-balanced, though the up time to that debuff has been reduced to 25% for bosses
- Infallible Mage: Minor Vulnerability (+8 damage taken) some enemies cannot be off-balanced, so this accomplishes the same goal
- Healing Mage (aka. Mending): Reduces the Weapon damage (?) of enemies within 10 m of you by 430 - not sure how effective is the damage reduction, since I don't know the base value for various enemies, and how the ability damage scales with it but some people consider it effective

4) Sustain:
- Energy Orb/Luminous Shard sinergy to directly restore the highest resource pool
- Elemental Drain/Radiant Aura: Minor Magickasteal (300 magicka back per second from hitting enemies with spells)
- Worm's Raiment: reduces the magicka cost by 4% - may not seem much but at low recovery is quite effective especially if you don't do many heavy attacks
- Master's Restoration staff: Rejuvenation - first tick of healing spring restores 258 stamina - may not seem much but for some situations where you need to do a lot of block casting because various mechanics it's still quite good
- Sentinel of Rkugamz: restores 524 stamina per second for 8 seconds with 15 seconds cooldown to allies in the area, this is also quite good as monster set, but the robot will die from AoE damage so I prefer Lord Warden in such situations.

If I do happen to play with PuGs - mostly happens in normal dungeons when I farm a specific gear piece - I wear full damage setup and only provide Ritual of Retribution (heal), Elemental Drain (debuff), and Blazing Spear (sustain), since those fit quite nicely in my DPS rotation. I have quite high stats so the heals from the former are quite enough to survive, unless you do something extremely stupid, which is not my problem.

Infabile aether has nothing to do with off balance.

I wasn't implying that, just saying that on some bosses only IA works to provide Minor Vulnerability, since they can't be off-balanced, for example the first 2 bosses in Aethernian Archive. Normally if someone heavy attacks an off-balanced enemy it puts Minor Vulnerability on him.

Asardes wrote: »

Tasear wrote: »

Asardes wrote: »

Tasear wrote: »

Asardes wrote: »

I don't play with PuGs, and as a result when I play as healer, I usually do the proper healer things, meaning healing, buffing, debuffing and giving sustain to the group:

1) Heals: Combat Prayer, Ritual of Retribution/Extended Ritual, Healing Springs or Rapid Regeneration/Mutagen, sometimes Breath of Life or Ward Ally, Cleanse/Efficient purge - that's basically "use it or go home" in some trials, Reviving Barrier - mostly for the passive recovery, but also good for saving the group in difficult situations, for example if the tank and/or other healer is down.

2) Buffs:
- Combat Prayer: Minor Berserk (+8% damage done), Minor Resolve & Ward (+1320 physical & spell resistance)
- Aggressive Horn: +10% magicka, stamina & health and Major Force (+15% critical damage) for 9.5s
- Spell Power Cure: Major Courage (+258 weapon & spell damage), an upcoming set will grant the same buff
- Lord Warden: +3870 physical & spell resistance in 8 m radius when getting hit - as of Summerset you will be able to slot a full monster set and 2 x 5 piece sets due to staves counting as 2 pieces; this will arguably be one of the best
- Sanctuary: 12% healing received may not seem much, but some trials and dungeons put strong healing debuffs on players
- Quick Siphon/Overflowing Altar (rarely): Minor Lifesteal (600 heal per second when damaging an enemy) - usually the tank slots that skill, or if he's a Warden he can slot Leeching Vines and apply it automatically
- Twilight Remedy (rarely): Minor Force (+10% critical damage) - all stamina DDs and some Magicka ones slot Rearming Trap, magicka ones will gain access to Channeled Acceleration skill that grants the same next patch, but they may not have space on their bars for it

3) Debuffs:
- Elemental Drain: Major Breach (-5280 spell resistance)
- Elemental Blockade: concussed/off-balanced, though the up time to that debuff has been reduced to 25% for bosses
- Infallible Mage: Minor Vulnerability (+8 damage taken) some enemies cannot be off-balanced, so this accomplishes the same goal
- Healing Mage (aka. Mending): Reduces the Weapon damage (?) of enemies within 10 m of you by 430 - not sure how effective is the damage reduction, since I don't know the base value for various enemies, and how the ability damage scales with it but some people consider it effective

4) Sustain:
- Energy Orb/Luminous Shard sinergy to directly restore the highest resource pool
- Elemental Drain/Radiant Aura: Minor Magickasteal (300 magicka back per second from hitting enemies with spells)
- Worm's Raiment: reduces the magicka cost by 4% - may not seem much but at low recovery is quite effective especially if you don't do many heavy attacks
- Master's Restoration staff: Rejuvenation - first tick of healing spring restores 258 stamina - may not seem much but for some situations where you need to do a lot of block casting because various mechanics it's still quite good
- Sentinel of Rkugamz: restores 524 stamina per second for 8 seconds with 15 seconds cooldown to allies in the area, this is also quite good as monster set, but the robot will die from AoE damage so I prefer Lord Warden in such situations.

If I do happen to play with PuGs - mostly happens in normal dungeons when I farm a specific gear piece - I wear full damage setup and only provide Ritual of Retribution (heal), Elemental Drain (debuff), and Blazing Spear (sustain), since those fit quite nicely in my DPS rotation. I have quite high stats so the heals from the former are quite enough to survive, unless you do something extremely stupid, which is not my problem.

Infabile aether has nothing to do with off balance.

I wasn't implying that, just saying that on some bosses only IA works to provide Minor Vulnerability, since they can't be off-balanced, for example the first 2 bosses in Aethernian Archive. Normally if someone heavy attacks an off-balanced enemy it puts Minor Vulnerability on him.

This will no longer be true after summerset.

I've looked trough the PTS notes 4.0.0 to 4.0.4 and found no changes regarding off-balance or Minor Vulnerability. Maybe you confused it with a change that is indeed there, namely that some monsters are not vulnerable (increased chance of status effect) or resistant (increased resistance to certain element) which is a totally different matter.

Tasear wrote: »

Asardes wrote: »

Tasear wrote: »

Asardes wrote: »

Tasear wrote: »

Asardes wrote: »

I don't play with PuGs, and as a result when I play as healer, I usually do the proper healer things, meaning healing, buffing, debuffing and giving sustain to the group:

1) Heals: Combat Prayer, Ritual of Retribution/Extended Ritual, Healing Springs or Rapid Regeneration/Mutagen, sometimes Breath of Life or Ward Ally, Cleanse/Efficient purge - that's basically "use it or go home" in some trials, Reviving Barrier - mostly for the passive recovery, but also good for saving the group in difficult situations, for example if the tank and/or other healer is down.

2) Buffs:
- Combat Prayer: Minor Berserk (+8% damage done), Minor Resolve & Ward (+1320 physical & spell resistance)
- Aggressive Horn: +10% magicka, stamina & health and Major Force (+15% critical damage) for 9.5s
- Spell Power Cure: Major Courage (+258 weapon & spell damage), an upcoming set will grant the same buff
- Lord Warden: +3870 physical & spell resistance in 8 m radius when getting hit - as of Summerset you will be able to slot a full monster set and 2 x 5 piece sets due to staves counting as 2 pieces; this will arguably be one of the best
- Sanctuary: 12% healing received may not seem much, but some trials and dungeons put strong healing debuffs on players
- Quick Siphon/Overflowing Altar (rarely): Minor Lifesteal (600 heal per second when damaging an enemy) - usually the tank slots that skill, or if he's a Warden he can slot Leeching Vines and apply it automatically
- Twilight Remedy (rarely): Minor Force (+10% critical damage) - all stamina DDs and some Magicka ones slot Rearming Trap, magicka ones will gain access to Channeled Acceleration skill that grants the same next patch, but they may not have space on their bars for it

3) Debuffs:
- Elemental Drain: Major Breach (-5280 spell resistance)
- Elemental Blockade: concussed/off-balanced, though the up time to that debuff has been reduced to 25% for bosses
- Infallible Mage: Minor Vulnerability (+8 damage taken) some enemies cannot be off-balanced, so this accomplishes the same goal
- Healing Mage (aka. Mending): Reduces the Weapon damage (?) of enemies within 10 m of you by 430 - not sure how effective is the damage reduction, since I don't know the base value for various enemies, and how the ability damage scales with it but some people consider it effective

4) Sustain:
- Energy Orb/Luminous Shard sinergy to directly restore the highest resource pool
- Elemental Drain/Radiant Aura: Minor Magickasteal (300 magicka back per second from hitting enemies with spells)
- Worm's Raiment: reduces the magicka cost by 4% - may not seem much but at low recovery is quite effective especially if you don't do many heavy attacks
- Master's Restoration staff: Rejuvenation - first tick of healing spring restores 258 stamina - may not seem much but for some situations where you need to do a lot of block casting because various mechanics it's still quite good
- Sentinel of Rkugamz: restores 524 stamina per second for 8 seconds with 15 seconds cooldown to allies in the area, this is also quite good as monster set, but the robot will die from AoE damage so I prefer Lord Warden in such situations.

If I do happen to play with PuGs - mostly happens in normal dungeons when I farm a specific gear piece - I wear full damage setup and only provide Ritual of Retribution (heal), Elemental Drain (debuff), and Blazing Spear (sustain), since those fit quite nicely in my DPS rotation. I have quite high stats so the heals from the former are quite enough to survive, unless you do something extremely stupid, which is not my problem.

Infabile aether has nothing to do with off balance.

I wasn't implying that, just saying that on some bosses only IA works to provide Minor Vulnerability, since they can't be off-balanced, for example the first 2 bosses in Aethernian Archive. Normally if someone heavy attacks an off-balanced enemy it puts Minor Vulnerability on him.

This will no longer be true after summerset.

I've looked trough the PTS notes 4.0.0 to 4.0.4 and found no changes regarding off-balance or Minor Vulnerability. Maybe you confused it with a change that is indeed there, namely that some monsters are not vulnerable (increased chance of status effect) or resistant (increased resistance to certain element) which is a totally different matter.

Concussion is a status effect.

Silver_Strider wrote: »

PUG healing is the worst. It's rare for anyone to pop orbs and even more rare to get DPS that know what they're doing. I just throw on a DPS set like Julianos, keep up my HoTs and if you die, chances are high it was most likely your own fault (love those people that stand in stupid and blame you).

idk wrote: »

Priyasekarssk wrote: »

Silver_Strider wrote: »

PUG healing is the worst. It's rare for anyone to pop orbs and even more rare to get DPS that know what they're doing. I just throw on a DPS set like Julianos, keep up my HoTs and if you die, chances are high it was most likely your own fault (love those people that stand in stupid and blame you).

Many of the times , I use orbs and invaluable for magicka buffs. I dont expect healers to always provide that.
Purge is most important skill for healer on vet HM. Every now & then I have to run towards location to clear debuffs or slot purge myself.

Only 1 in 10 healers have that skill slotted. It is very important skill for healer on hard contents for a competent group. Pathetic thing , many healers dont even know important of that skill and group is expecting from them ,when debuffed , espeically on harder content. There are debuffs which cannot be healed. Some debuffs like miam/snares will decrease damage output drastically.

Also barrier is way too good than restro ultimate , especially during boss bursts., where majority of group wipes happen.

Shields >> Heals . Shields at important times is what makes difference between pro healer & ordinary healer.

Healers cannot heal one shot mechanics. Again I rarely see, good healers to provide ultimate on burst time.
Again I never played healer.

Barrier is overkill in vet dungeons unless that group is really bad at avoiding damage and mechanics. In trials healers usually use War Horn for the damage buff and they tend to use the same in vet dungeon as a result. Sometimes a templar will use nova if damage reduction is helpful.

I cannot recall many dungeons where purge is very useful. Most of the dots in vet dungeons that can be cleansed do not hit very hard. The hardest hitting dot I can recall in a vet dungeon is from the Planar Inhibitor from vWGT and that dot is not cleansable. One needs to work the mechanic. In some of the newer trials, yes purge is helpful.

Heck, I have healed a lot of dungeons over the years in ESO and, again unless the group is bad at avoiding damage, I hardly have to heal and usually add to the dps, especially if I have joined a random group.