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oh Mechanical Acuity got a nerf as expected
Bigevilpeter
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in pts 4.0.4 it now procs on direct damage only and having 15% chance means you could possibly do 8 attacks and not proc it ruining the whole setup.
I think this will hurt a lot of builds, but I think its fine, that one set was in almost every build now.
Good think I just switched to TFS an Morag Tong on my StamDK
Edited by Bigevilpeter on May 17, 2018 10:39AM I think this will hurt a lot of builds, but I think its fine, that one set was in almost every build now.
Good think I just switched to TFS an Morag Tong on my StamDK
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Sparr0w✭✭✭✭✭
✭Bigevilpeter wrote: »in pts 4.0.4 it now procs on direct damage only and having 10% chance means you could possibly do 9 attacks and not proc it ruining the whole setup.
I think this will hurt a lot of builds, but I think its fine, that one set was in almost every build now.
Good think I just switched to TFS an Morag Tong on my StamDK
@Bigevilpeter Yup, on a mag character you're pretty much forced into using Force Pulse should you want to have similar uptimes (from what I've heard), on a stam character my guess is using Rapid Strikes which will hurt quite a bit too. Moving back to my Hunding/VO & Juli/BSW for now I think.@Sparr0w so I get the notification
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✭✭✭✭✭Well, it was fun while it lasted.
I should have known better than to gold it out on my magsorc... 7 -
Asardes✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭I didn't craft it, I just stayed with Julianos & Hunding since it didn't seem like a huge improvement to the classes I played; those builds already have 55-60% spell critical and 62-68% weapon critical, and mostly rely on DoTs so would have not gotten much of a boost, even in the current, not-yet-nerfed state.Beta tester since February 2014, played ESO-TU October 2015 - August 2022, currently on an extended break
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Facefister✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Shouldn't be that bad when you're weaving though. Totally enjoying this set with my stamsorc hybrid.0 -
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✭I didn't craft it, I just stayed with Julianos & Hunding since it didn't seem like a huge improvement to the classes I played; those builds already have 55-60% spell critical and 62-68% weapon critical, and mostly rely on DoTs so would have not gotten much of a boost, even in the current, not-yet-nerfed state.
Seems you can never go wrong with those 2 sets as your base gear.
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Facefister✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Juju_beans wrote: »I didn't craft it, I just stayed with Julianos & Hunding since it didn't seem like a huge improvement to the classes I played; those builds already have 55-60% spell critical and 62-68% weapon critical, and mostly rely on DoTs so would have not gotten much of a boost, even in the current, not-yet-nerfed state.
Seems you can never go wrong with those 2 sets as your base gear.
Well, the Mechnical Acuity set allows me to use magicka skills and ultimates effectively since it also boots your spell crit to 100%. As I said, it wont be an issue since I weave a lot.0 -
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✭✭✭✭Meh. I never make any of my pve gear gold with the exception of the weapons. Not a huge loss.11 -
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✭Facefister wrote: »Juju_beans wrote: »I didn't craft it, I just stayed with Julianos & Hunding since it didn't seem like a huge improvement to the classes I played; those builds already have 55-60% spell critical and 62-68% weapon critical, and mostly rely on DoTs so would have not gotten much of a boost, even in the current, not-yet-nerfed state.
Seems you can never go wrong with those 2 sets as your base gear.
Well, the Mechnical Acuity set allows me to use magicka skills and ultimates effectively since it also boots your spell crit to 100%. As I said, it wont be an issue since I weave a lot.
With the changes to 2H weapons it will make it somewhat easier to switch sets on the fly.
My plan is to use Hundings/Julianos as my base gear (5 pieces gear). Then you have helm/shoulder slots.
Then you can use 3 jewelry/weapons to make the second set for a 5-5-2 combo.
Want to switch sets..then just switch out jewelry/weapons. Very easy to do with overland/crafted stuff although it will be a while to accomplish that on the crafted with jewelry research.
Plus it takes up less bank space.
Edited by Juju_beans on May 17, 2018 12:58PM0 -
Cloudless✭✭✭✭✭Honestly... thank you for that. Once every single DD build you see suggests nothing but one set, no matter if they're stamina or magicka, then it can safely be assumed that the aforementioned set didn't get nerfed, it just got brought down from "stupid good and killing any chance at coming up with personal preferences" to "you can go for this if it suits your build".4 -
Koolio✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Once again another MNB gank build gone. 6 and counting. I’ll find something else. Damn Pvers getting stuffed Nerfed lol.4 -
madchuska83✭✭✭✭✭I run MA/Moondancer on my MagBlade. MagSorc is still gold Julianos/Infal. I never wanted to jump on the acuity bandwagon because it didn't seem plausible to have a BiS crafted set on both Stam and Mag. So I just did epic gear and golded out my staves. I'll switch to Juli/Moondancer on MagBlade for Summerset.0 -
It is nerfing by definition. The fact that it will have less impact on PvP is something else.
And yeah, it was to be expected.
Also see this thread for some analyses of the consequences: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/412698/anyone-tested-the-dps-loss-from-the-acuity-change/p22 -
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✭Good. Now I can hear less meta scrublords scream you need to that set for trials and other stuff.10 -
firedrgn✭✭✭✭✭I only crafted it lvl 150 armor pieces .. lol. The 5th bonus was the same . Snicker.
Not sure if i will run it or not. Time will tell. It was great for melting mobs solo.1 -
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✭I always find it funny when they nerf the flavor of the week sets. What did you think was going to happen when you copy everyone else's build? Think outside the box or accept the nerf hammer, up to you.6 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I always find it funny when they nerf the flavor of the week sets. What did you think was going to happen when you copy everyone else's build? Think outside the box or accept the nerf hammer, up to you.
Some of us were thinking outside the box when we started using Mechanical Acuity. It took a long time for it to become popular.14 -
Sheezabeast✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭bah I outfitted my stam sorc and my stamplar in this set...oh well Grand Master Crafter, Beta baby who grew with the game. PC/NA. @Sheezabeast if you have crafting needs!1 -
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✭it's not nerfing the set, it's making it way less usable by PVEers, since they use dots and aoes. in PVP it'll still be op because most attacks are direct.
Anyone who uses aquity in pvp is clueless.. for 1 you can never crit on someone wearing a damage shield and 2 a 5 sec proc is nothing considering there will be times it procs while in defense mode then boom 15 second cool down ..
Trash set in pvp good in pve.8 -
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✭Juju_beans wrote: »I didn't craft it, I just stayed with Julianos & Hunding since it didn't seem like a huge improvement to the classes I played; those builds already have 55-60% spell critical and 62-68% weapon critical, and mostly rely on DoTs so would have not gotten much of a boost, even in the current, not-yet-nerfed state.
Seems you can never go wrong with those 2 sets as your base gear.
62-68% crit is a little on the high side. If it's that high, I'd start thinking of maybe adding +weapon damage. You want to keep crit around 50%.1 -
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✭it's not nerfing the set, it's making it way less usable by PVEers, since they use dots and aoes. in PVP it'll still be op because most attacks are direct.
Not really, light weaving is direct damage. It'll still work just not as frequently as before thats it.Ah, e-communities - the "pinnacle" of the internet............yeah, right.0 -
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✭If you think this set was/ is a trash set in pvp...you obviously have never used it.
Let me ask, have you ever attempted to actually burst a full shielded sorc? Possible...but not for most players built to duel or 1vX.
You wait until the first shield is about to fall off, then boom if acuity procced with the CC. He's just about done acuity does make it more difficult sure. But you better not underestimate a magplar running acuity and sweeps while ur down. Those crits add up even on a fully impen toon. An unshielded sorc? Yeah...it hurts. Most of ur damage is tuned around 6 seconds.
You hit him first, proc acuity, work him a little bit with acuity procced, keep workin him slowly, about half health acuity should proc again then you still have enough time for a dark flare or purifying light, a vamps bane, and two casts of sweeps and then radiant. It's powerful. Has counter yeah. But the tradeoffs are not as bad as you would think.
I wear five heavy acuity, pirate skellie and war maiden. Sometimes I drop for soulshine, sometimes I drop pirate for skoria.
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✭✭✭WrathOfInnos wrote: »I always find it funny when they nerf the flavor of the week sets. What did you think was going to happen when you copy everyone else's build? Think outside the box or accept the nerf hammer, up to you.
Some of us were thinking outside the box when we started using Mechanical Acuity. It took a long time for it to become popular.
Agree - some of us were using it before it was ever all over the forum etc.1 -
SerivorSoul ShrivenIf you use a MagSorc Force Pulse build then you should be fine with the direct damage that it causes. As for Pet Sorc's, nope, you gotta find something use. And Stamina builds will be fine with new Arms of Relequen set since it's BiS and is direct damage.0
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Recette✭✭✭Juju_beans wrote: »I didn't craft it, I just stayed with Julianos & Hunding since it didn't seem like a huge improvement to the classes I played; those builds already have 55-60% spell critical and 62-68% weapon critical, and mostly rely on DoTs so would have not gotten much of a boost, even in the current, not-yet-nerfed state.
Seems you can never go wrong with those 2 sets as your base gear.
I used Hundings as my main set when I first cleared vMA. It is indeed a great beginner set and has helped me immensely in PvE.
As for the main Topic here: If one set is completely dominant in a given setting, it comes as no surprise that it will be tuned down just a bit to try and make other setups more viable, since it is much easier to nerf one thing than to buff dozens of others.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭What is is now:
* (5 items) When you deal damage, you have a 15% chance to gain unerring mechanical vision for 5 seconds, causing your attacks to always be a Critical Strike. This effect can occur once every 18 seconds.
This set is now ruined for PvP. It looks like Summerset will just be another string of nerfs to existing gear and buffs for new gear. Is Sload's Semblance nerfed yet? Of course not, its new gear.
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✭✭✭✭✭This will cost me about 15 pieces of gold gear. I have lost more gear at once due to "balance" changes. Pretty sure I deconed about 25 gold pieces of TBS a few years back. It is what it is. It's clear that they are not capable of adding powerful sets beyond hundings and julianos. Every time, they get beat with a nerf hammer eventually. A nerf was coming, but this set pretty much went to useless on most PVE builds. It now cant be front barred, and basically requires FP. So non-pet sorcs and maybe templars, that's about it.2 -
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✭✭Ihatenightblades wrote: »it's not nerfing the set, it's making it way less usable by PVEers, since they use dots and aoes. in PVP it'll still be op because most attacks are direct.
Anyone who uses aquity in pvp is clueless.. for 1 you can never crit on someone wearing a damage shield and 2 a 5 sec proc is nothing considering there will be times it procs while in defense mode then boom 15 second cool down ..
Trash set in pvp good in pve.
This set was great to gank with on a MNB. A heavy attack with an enchant destro reach into a soul assault made most people crumble. Especially medium armor or stamblades. If your ganking someone with a shield in the first place you already messed up.
Made this set for ganking the day it came out.1
