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Twitch crate exclusive mount, really?!
ArvenAldmeri
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Once again, your greed wont stop to surprise me, Zenimax. This is just disgusting. Another of few epic looking senche mounts and we cant even BUY it. I am tired of those, really tired. I would be more than happy to give you 5k crown for that mount, whatever, but locking it AGAIN behind a chance?! I am out of words. I might just as well drop my 6 month subscription, get all the DLC I have with the crowns I have and stop supporting this **** alltogether. No more buying crazy expensive crowns neither subscribing anymore breaking my 4 year sub chain.
Puting the coolest mounts behind stupid RNG chance/buy more crate = more chance, needs to stop.
EDIT: This post is to talk about crate exclusive mount topic.
Edited by ArvenAldmeri on May 17, 2018 11:38PM Puting the coolest mounts behind stupid RNG chance/buy more crate = more chance, needs to stop.
EDIT: This post is to talk about crate exclusive mount topic.
Magicka sorcerer from start until the end. Always. Through the good times and the bad, even now when its probably saddest PvE dps it has ever been.
Even as an owner of one radiant apex mounts I am against radiant apex mounts and anything thats not obtainable by direct purchase.
Even as an owner of one radiant apex mounts I am against radiant apex mounts and anything thats not obtainable by direct purchase.
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MajesticHaruki✭✭✭✭✭It's only a few cool pixels. I am sure you will survive. Let them experiment with their player base. They ll be wiser on their future games. Besides eso won't reach the fortnite madness on twitch.
PC/EU @MajThorax Sorcerer and Housing Decorator prodigy
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ArvenAldmeri✭✭✭✭✭MajesticHaruki wrote: »It's only a few cool pixels. I am sure you will survive. Let them experiment with their player base. They ll be wiser on their future games. Besides eso won't reach the fortnite madness on twitch.
Point being? I wanted the mount moment I see it on the datamine. I have been supporting this game since it launched buying all the cool looking stuff I wanted, being sub even when I was not playing for months at that time. This is reward? Stuff I CANT get?Magicka sorcerer from start until the end. Always. Through the good times and the bad, even now when its probably saddest PvE dps it has ever been.
Even as an owner of one radiant apex mounts I am against radiant apex mounts and anything thats not obtainable by direct purchase.19 -
Ley✭✭✭✭✭
✭ZOS have offered players a way to get free stuff for very little effort, naturally players complain. Classic.Leylith - MagSorc | Leyloth - StamPlar | Leynerd - MagPlar | Leylit - StamBlade | Ley Eviticus - StamDK | Leydor - MagDen | Leylum - StamSorc | Leylux - MagBlade15 -
AlienatedGoat✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭ZOS have offered players a way to get free stuff for very little effort, naturally players complain. Classic.
Wrong. ZO$ have offered players a way to get a chance of getting free stuff, with little effort that directly translates into advertiser revenue for ZO$.
Sprinkle a bit of FOMO onto that, and pressure to buy ESO goods from Twitch for more crates, and you've got yourself a pretty obvious cash grab.PC-NA Goat - Bleat Bleat Baaaa40 -
Ley✭✭✭✭✭
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Oh I get it, you wanted something for nothing and ZOS to have zero gain from the entire process. Sounds reasonable.ZOS have offered players a way to get free stuff for very little effort, naturally players complain. Classic.
Wrong. ZO$ have offered players a way to get a chance of getting free stuff, with little effort that directly translates into advertiser revenue for ZO$.
Sprinkle a bit of FOMO onto that, and pressure to buy ESO goods from Twitch for more crates, and you've got yourself a pretty obvious cash grab.Leylith - MagSorc | Leyloth - StamPlar | Leynerd - MagPlar | Leylit - StamBlade | Ley Eviticus - StamDK | Leydor - MagDen | Leylum - StamSorc | Leylux - MagBlade5 -
ArvenAldmeri✭✭✭✭✭
Oh I get it, you wanted something for nothing and ZOS to have zero gain from the entire process. Sounds reasonable.ZOS have offered players a way to get free stuff for very little effort, naturally players complain. Classic.
Wrong. ZO$ have offered players a way to get a chance of getting free stuff, with little effort that directly translates into advertiser revenue for ZO$.
Sprinkle a bit of FOMO onto that, and pressure to buy ESO goods from Twitch for more crates, and you've got yourself a pretty obvious cash grab.
No, we want 100% something for other 100% something. Not 100% something for probably like radiant apex mount % something.
Put the mount out for 50 bucks and I pay it without questions and complaints.Magicka sorcerer from start until the end. Always. Through the good times and the bad, even now when its probably saddest PvE dps it has ever been.
Even as an owner of one radiant apex mounts I am against radiant apex mounts and anything thats not obtainable by direct purchase.33 -
Ley✭✭✭✭✭
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Yea I guess you're right, it's really shameful to promote the game and help support streamers by offering a chance at an exclusive and free reward. Clearly players need this mount in order to enjoy the game Fancy Mounts Online. The most fair approach would be to either guarantee the mount for viewing a stream or selling them for $50 to those who can't be bothered to view someone's stream. Don't even get me started on how insulting it would be to get any of the free stuff other than the mount.ArvenAldmeri wrote: »
Oh I get it, you wanted something for nothing and ZOS to have zero gain from the entire process. Sounds reasonable.ZOS have offered players a way to get free stuff for very little effort, naturally players complain. Classic.
Wrong. ZO$ have offered players a way to get a chance of getting free stuff, with little effort that directly translates into advertiser revenue for ZO$.
Sprinkle a bit of FOMO onto that, and pressure to buy ESO goods from Twitch for more crates, and you've got yourself a pretty obvious cash grab.
No, we want 100% something for other 100% something. Not 100% something for probably like radiant apex mount % something.
Put the mount out for 50 bucks and I pay it without questions and complaints.
In fact as compensation for this outrageous insult, I'm thinking free mounts for everyone!
Edited by Ley on May 16, 2018 11:13PMLeylith - MagSorc | Leyloth - StamPlar | Leynerd - MagPlar | Leylit - StamBlade | Ley Eviticus - StamDK | Leydor - MagDen | Leylum - StamSorc | Leylux - MagBlade4 -
Moloch1514✭✭✭✭✭
✭Pretty simple: ZOS has our money. They now want to use us to boost Twitch ratings for ESO to get that new money. As a Revenue Analyst, I agree with their marketing methods. As a customer/stakeholder, I feel all these Crown shenanigans are cheapening the brand I care about (Elder Scrolls/Bethesda Studio).
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✭Aren’t most of the ESO streamers’ viewers, already playing ESO? How does pushing your player base to watch a streamer playing your game for a slim chance at getting a prize, instead of actually playing your game, help populate your game?
Play or watch. I guess they could log into the stream and ignore it while they play. Anyway, it seems like yet another “exclusive” mount I will never have. Pretty much expected.PS4 Pro NA7 -
Avalon✭✭✭✭✭Wait a minute... what Twitch Crate?? I'm a member of Twitch Prime, and I got no alert for this, and I check there pretty often to see if I have any new rewards... so, what's this about?0 -
Ley✭✭✭✭✭
✭Wait a minute... what Twitch Crate?? I'm a member of Twitch Prime, and I got no alert for this, and I check there pretty often to see if I have any new rewards... so, what's this about?
https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/26399?Twitch-Drops-&-More-Are-Coming-to-The-Elder-Scrolls-Online!Leylith - MagSorc | Leyloth - StamPlar | Leynerd - MagPlar | Leylit - StamBlade | Ley Eviticus - StamDK | Leydor - MagDen | Leylum - StamSorc | Leylux - MagBlade1 -
ArvenAldmeri✭✭✭✭✭
Yea I guess you're right, it's really shameful to promote the game and help support streamers by offering a chance at an exclusive and free reward. Clearly players need this mount in order to enjoy the game Fancy Mounts Online. The most fair approach would be to either guarantee the mount for viewing a stream or selling them for $50 to those who can't be bothered to view someone's stream. Don't even get me started on how insulting it would be to get any of the free stuff other than the mount.ArvenAldmeri wrote: »
Oh I get it, you wanted something for nothing and ZOS to have zero gain from the entire process. Sounds reasonable.ZOS have offered players a way to get free stuff for very little effort, naturally players complain. Classic.
Wrong. ZO$ have offered players a way to get a chance of getting free stuff, with little effort that directly translates into advertiser revenue for ZO$.
Sprinkle a bit of FOMO onto that, and pressure to buy ESO goods from Twitch for more crates, and you've got yourself a pretty obvious cash grab.
No, we want 100% something for other 100% something. Not 100% something for probably like radiant apex mount % something.
Put the mount out for 50 bucks and I pay it without questions and complaints.
In fact as compensation for this outrageous insult, I'm thinking free mounts for everyone!
You are completely missing the point. And other free stuff? You mean crown consumables that are as any other crown consumables gonna end up in a trash? Because they are completely useless? Look at it in the big picture and not the only one you can see aka "dont complain about free stuff". I watch eso streams every day yet I am still pissed because its a freaking CHANCE to get something I want and am willing to pay for not being a chance. No matter what you think about cosmetic stuff, some ppl in this game enjoy the creative and cosmetic part of the game more than doing other things as vAS with 400 ping spikes every 10 seconds. Its housing and cool cosmetic stuff keeping me playing this game, not laggy ass endgame.Magicka sorcerer from start until the end. Always. Through the good times and the bad, even now when its probably saddest PvE dps it has ever been.
Even as an owner of one radiant apex mounts I am against radiant apex mounts and anything thats not obtainable by direct purchase.12 -
ArvenAldmeri✭✭✭✭✭Aren’t most of the ESO streamers’ viewers, already playing ESO? How does pushing your player base to watch a streamer playing your game for a slim chance at getting a prize, instead of actually playing your game, help populate your game?
Play or watch. I guess they could log into the stream and ignore it while they play. Anyway, it seems like yet another “exclusive” mount I will never have. Pretty much expected.
Another very good point. Its very much play or watch for me as I dont have a powerful expensive PC to take both stream and game at the same time.Magicka sorcerer from start until the end. Always. Through the good times and the bad, even now when its probably saddest PvE dps it has ever been.
Even as an owner of one radiant apex mounts I am against radiant apex mounts and anything thats not obtainable by direct purchase.7 -
ManwithBeard9✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭ArvenAldmeri wrote: »Aren’t most of the ESO streamers’ viewers, already playing ESO? How does pushing your player base to watch a streamer playing your game for a slim chance at getting a prize, instead of actually playing your game, help populate your game?
Play or watch. I guess they could log into the stream and ignore it while they play. Anyway, it seems like yet another “exclusive” mount I will never have. Pretty much expected.
Another very good point. Its very much play or watch for me as I dont have a powerful expensive PC to take both stream and game at the same time.
I had a gtx 555, a low end i5, and 8 gbs of ram, you don't need fancy to watch a stream and play a game.3 -
ArvenAldmeri✭✭✭✭✭ManwithBeard9 wrote: »ArvenAldmeri wrote: »Aren’t most of the ESO streamers’ viewers, already playing ESO? How does pushing your player base to watch a streamer playing your game for a slim chance at getting a prize, instead of actually playing your game, help populate your game?
Play or watch. I guess they could log into the stream and ignore it while they play. Anyway, it seems like yet another “exclusive” mount I will never have. Pretty much expected.
Another very good point. Its very much play or watch for me as I dont have a powerful expensive PC to take both stream and game at the same time.
I had a gtx 555, a low end i5, and 8 gbs of ram, you don't need fancy to watch a stream and play a game.
I have a laptop, so no matter how good it is, if I run anything than the game its throttling.Magicka sorcerer from start until the end. Always. Through the good times and the bad, even now when its probably saddest PvE dps it has ever been.
Even as an owner of one radiant apex mounts I am against radiant apex mounts and anything thats not obtainable by direct purchase.4 -
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✭✭✭✭✭ArvenAldmeri wrote: »Once again, your greed wont stop to surprise me, <snip>
Chance at free things that cost you nothing but loading a stream. Where does the greed fit in here?
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Scrub: Chews-on-Beavers - 50 EP DK Tank | Vera the Wild - 50 EP magicka Warden | Sigtric the Axe - 50 EP Dragonknight Crafter | Sigtric the Blade - 50 EP Lost Nightblade | Sigtric the Savage - 50 EP magicka Templar | Vibeka Shadowblade - 50 Ep Stealthy Ganky Nightblade |
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Avalon✭✭✭✭✭Wait a minute... what Twitch Crate?? I'm a member of Twitch Prime, and I got no alert for this, and I check there pretty often to see if I have any new rewards... so, what's this about?
https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/26399?Twitch-Drops-&-More-Are-Coming-to-The-Elder-Scrolls-Online!
Ok, so now I am p*ssed off too, but for different reasons. They continually support the PC ESO, while also continually slapping the console players. The PC players always seem to get a few extra days (like a week or two) extra headstart on new expansions or DLC while Consoles get nothing extra (not even a few crowns, or a new pet, or even a crate) to make up for that difference; PC players can get all sorts of cool stuff from games like the Elder Scrolls Legends (for buying expansions in that game, you get in-game extras on PC ESO; and, even though console players buy those expansions TOO, because they need them to keep playing, they get NOTHING), etc etc...
And, now this? Love how they keep putting that line, or the equivalent, in everything, "Note: You can only link PC/Mac ESO accounts with Twitch at this time."
Great, so... when have they EVER actually finished that? Always "at this time" like one day it will be for Console as well, but I have never seen it happen. No, the PC always gets all of the bells and whistles, and if Console gets stuff, you can be damn sure the PC got it too, if not a better version. For someone like me that needs a controller to play (mainly due to my hands not doing the keyboard/mouse thing so well any more: age, disability, and more), my option is to play on Console, and that's pretty much it. So, them continuing to ALWAYS treat the PC version as their darling, while doing NOTHING for the Console to make up for it? Yeah, that's getting REALLY tiring. Not asking for much, just give US something to make all versions feel equal, we pay the subscriptions and buy the crowns TOO.9 -
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✭But this mount is ugly.EU PC: @logarifmik | Languages: Русский, English
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✭✭✭✭ArvenAldmeri wrote: »Once again, your greed wont stop to surprise me, <snip>
Chance at free things that cost you nothing but loading a stream. Where does the greed fit in here?
Let’s be real, maybe 1 in 1,000,000 people will get that mount from a free crate. The entire purpose of this is to squeeze more money from players in a way that DEMANDS more irl money be sunk into it. You can’t use ESO+ crowns to buy these crates, nor can you use any of the crowns you may have bought on that sale to get these 1 in a million chances at some stupid rare mount.
How do you not see how little they value us as customers?14 -
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✭✭MajesticHaruki wrote: »It's only a few cool pixels. I am sure you will survive. Let them experiment with their player base. They ll be wiser on their future games. Besides eso won't reach the fortnite madness on twitch.
would you really play another game made by zos... would anyone?6 -
BRCOURTN✭✭✭✭✭MajesticHaruki wrote: »It's only a few cool pixels. I am sure you will survive. Let them experiment with their player base. They ll be wiser on their future games. Besides eso won't reach the fortnite madness on twitch.
would you really play another game made by zos... would anyone?
Absolutely I would! ESO is really fun, and I think it’s awesome that they can make money off of people buying 70 cosmetic mounts. I’ve never had any less fun riding a horse in this game than everyone else riding their expensive bears and whosiwhatsits...8 -
ZOS_GregoryVmodGreetings all,
While we can understand how frustrating this can prove to be, we must ask that this thread be kept civil and constructive. Baiting and Flaming other members of the community is a violation of the rules that we have in place. We would like to advise all members familiarize themselves with our rules, found here. We will reopen this thread for now, however we will be keeping an eye on it.
Thank you for your understanding,
-Greg-
Edited by ZOS_GregoryV on May 17, 2018 1:54AMThe Elder Scrolls Online: Tamriel Unlimited - ZeniMax Online Studios
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Ley✭✭✭✭✭
✭MajesticHaruki wrote: »It's only a few cool pixels. I am sure you will survive. Let them experiment with their player base. They ll be wiser on their future games. Besides eso won't reach the fortnite madness on twitch.
would you really play another game made by zos... would anyone?
I absolutely would. If I thought that there was a better MMO out there, I'd probably be playing it.Leylith - MagSorc | Leyloth - StamPlar | Leynerd - MagPlar | Leylit - StamBlade | Ley Eviticus - StamDK | Leydor - MagDen | Leylum - StamSorc | Leylux - MagBlade6 -
Aesthier✭✭✭✭✭Nice mount.
If it comes up in the cash shop at a later time I will buy it.
However, there is nothing in this game worth me signing up for a twitch account.18 -
Syncronaut✭✭✭ArvenAldmeri wrote: »Once again, your greed wont stop to surprise me, <snip>
Chance at free things that cost you nothing but loading a stream. Where does the greed fit in here?
Let’s be real, maybe 1 in 1,000,000 people will get that mount from a free crate. The entire purpose of this is to squeeze more money from players in a way that DEMANDS more irl money be sunk into it. You can’t use ESO+ crowns to buy these crates, nor can you use any of the crowns you may have bought on that sale to get these 1 in a million chances at some stupid rare mount.
How do you not see how little they value us as customers?
In other words its a waste of your time and money.
Best its just to ignore that event like it never happened.
Personaly you would have to pay me so i would watch your content in $$$ on twitch. (talking abauth eso streamers)7 -
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✭ArvenAldmeri wrote: »
Yea I guess you're right, it's really shameful to promote the game and help support streamers by offering a chance at an exclusive and free reward. Clearly players need this mount in order to enjoy the game Fancy Mounts Online. The most fair approach would be to either guarantee the mount for viewing a stream or selling them for $50 to those who can't be bothered to view someone's stream. Don't even get me started on how insulting it would be to get any of the free stuff other than the mount.ArvenAldmeri wrote: »
Oh I get it, you wanted something for nothing and ZOS to have zero gain from the entire process. Sounds reasonable.ZOS have offered players a way to get free stuff for very little effort, naturally players complain. Classic.
Wrong. ZO$ have offered players a way to get a chance of getting free stuff, with little effort that directly translates into advertiser revenue for ZO$.
Sprinkle a bit of FOMO onto that, and pressure to buy ESO goods from Twitch for more crates, and you've got yourself a pretty obvious cash grab.
No, we want 100% something for other 100% something. Not 100% something for probably like radiant apex mount % something.
Put the mount out for 50 bucks and I pay it without questions and complaints.
In fact as compensation for this outrageous insult, I'm thinking free mounts for everyone!
You are completely missing the point. And other free stuff? You mean crown consumables that are as any other crown consumables gonna end up in a trash? Because they are completely useless?
Not going to convert them to gems?[DC/NA]2 -
DeadlyRecluse✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭I have a zero percent chance of getting the twitch exclusive mount. That's fine. It's pretty standard practice to tie cosmetic rewards to other platforms/games with varying amounts of exclusivity.MajesticHaruki wrote: »It's only a few cool pixels. I am sure you will survive. Let them experiment with their player base. They ll be wiser on their future games. Besides eso won't reach the fortnite madness on twitch.
would you really play another game made by zos... would anyone?
I don't play this game as a form of masochism. I actually enjoy it--so yeah, I'd play another ZOS game if it was a format that looked compelling or an IP I like.Thrice Empress, Forever Scrub5 -
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✭2008: "You mean I have to buy that cosmetic item? SCREW YOU!"
2018: "You mean I can't buy that cosmetic item? SCREW YOU!"19 -
Lazarus_Rising✭✭✭✭✭Just use your smartphone or let it stream in the background with lowest quality. I don't think that will do to much for your connection. I'm really happy to get free crowncrates from watching instead of buying it.
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