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Whats wrong with this game
TheRealSniker
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Im not gonna be very specific mechanically about whats causing certain issues but rather give general ideas, since Im not in the mood to write a book that nobody would read.
So here is a more or less quick rant about what bothers me:
Open World, Gear, Trials and Achievement System
Open world in ESO is boring and no end game player will bother exploring and finishing any of the content you have put there(Besides roleplayers but they arent a part of the cool kids club). End game players have too many resources to either buy a complete overland BiS Gear from guild stores or just 4man group a dungeon and speedrun it 5 times in under 10 minutes. Obtaining non-Trial BiS Gear in this game is a joke and takes no effort.
Although I love Trials I feel like finishing them repetatively doesnt reward me anymore...
Trials provide no reward when you finish them regularly a few times a day, an(considered) extreme dungeon like vHoF should bring amazing rewards to the table after finishing it.
Same goes for the new HM Dragonbones dungeons and the achievement system, there should be more to it to reward the end game player.
ESO is just poor in terms of Gear, Rewards and Character look adjustment. Or overall content.
I would love to see more amazing Motif Designs and Weapon Skins (Like the Ilambris Weapons that come with the next patch).
We need more unique Gear(Weapons or Armor) that are rare to represent the theme of an Elder Scrolls game, coding and working on such an item doesnt require much worktime, telling that from experience.
Imperial City
I love imperial city, the time we had double telvar event was also the time I enjoyed this game the most!
Sadly IC is literally dead. Imperial City is Zenimax's failed project which needs a heavy rework yet all they are saying "they dont have enough resources" yet manage to put out a massive chapter like morrowind or summerse. It would be an smallscalers utopia the way its built but the reward and boss system is just as stupid as every other reward system in the game. Imperial City should drop rare unique weapons for every class that would be considered good and very rare to drop for people to actually fight for it. There are 3 Portals to the IC which at first I thought are somehow connected to the fortresses in Cyrodiil, sadly thats not the case.
Zenimax should learn from other games and introduce interesting game mechanics from other games, like for example Aion, you needed to conquer 2/4 fortresses in an area to unlock portal to a special zone where you could drop Best in Slot PvP Gear. This mechanic kept players fighting for those fortresses for hours, sometimes days, it would make High end players start to fight for the campaign aswell! It would fill the unlocked Zones with every kind of players keeping it interesting and fun. Google Tiamaranta Eye for more Info.
PvP Balance
Theres a problem with Nightblades, there are bad players that weave their cloak inbetween every attack, and there are good players who only use cloak to disengage and otherwise put pressure on you.
Cloak should receive the Streak treatment to increase its cost for 4-5 seconds whenever you use it(That would solve the permacloak issue aswell).
Piercing Mark is an ability that disables a classes playstyle with one button click for entire 30 seconds. for an high-end player 2 seconds feel like alot, just imagine the pain you have to go through as an nightblade main when somebody spams piercing mark on you for 2 minutes +
Sometimes being a nightblade main feels completely useless. Such a mechanic is nowhere else to be seen besides ESO ofcourse...
With the cloak changes, piercing mark should be removed from the game, just imagine we would have a point click ability that disables shields or blocking entirely for 30 seconds, which you cannot entirely purge or counter in any way as a solo player.
Incap Strike is just simply overpowering players in PvP rather than being a huge nuke. You cannot nerf Incaps damage/damage multipliers or Cost, it would go against the Nightblades concept and would kill Nightblades in PvE, therefor I suggest tweaking the Defile debuff. Making Major Defile into Minor would only cause Stamblades to stack the Defile debuff since most of us run Infused Disease already... Removing the Stun would make the skill feel clunky and lack a core part and wouldnt fix it at all. Id Suggest removing Defile entirely from Incap Strike and making the Damage buff apply to the character itself so it cannot be easily countered by purges. Or just simply tweak Defile and Befoul CP.(Or delete it entirely)
Double Take should add Snare immunity for 0,5 seconds to make Magblades a better solo option(since the concept of a Nightblade is to be solo) and making the rogue idea shine through.
Overload as it is now and how ridiculous it will be next patch with existing patch notes is also a big or future issue for PvP. Currently overload can provide extreme pressure for a low cost ultimate which can not only be used once but many times. It is extremely powerful as it is, sometimes harder than other class or guild ultimates which cost quadruple or higher of it's cost. With the new patch on the horizon and the changes in current patch notes this ultimate will become completely unbalanced in PvP together with the new changes(One of which being the new empower).
Twin blade and blunt(Dual wield skill line), twin slashes and cleave. All of these dots are completely fine except for one reason, that is that they completely ignore physical resistance, there is no way to mitigate them aside from battle spirit. This makes this too powerful, or completely overpowered, making axe set ups superior to non-axe ones which damages game's flexibility in terms of gear. Now I understand that this is a unique mechanic to bleeding damage but it is completely unnecessary, it is also unique by being exclusive to axes. Best way of dealing with something as bleeds if you were to somehow make them less powerful is making them affected by physical resistance, this way you are not affecting PvE at all in the trial or group dungeon scene since trial groups already aim and have nearly complete physical penetration, therefore this change would barely affect PvE.
Reflective Scales is another mechanic that makes the PvP unbalanced, this skill makes good players become immune against any ranged player, doesnt matter if good or not. It is self explainable why. Changing this skill wouldnt affect PvE at all since its only being used in some situations and only by the best of players.
Defile and Cost Poisons are just unhealthy game mechanics that make the game not fun.
PvE Balance
The last few months was a paradise for PvE Balance besides maybe 2 builds that werent viable(Magplars and Stamsorcs). Magicka was being picked in hard to survive situations and Magblade(the hardest to play magicka class) had the highest DPS output. Stamina Templars and Dragoknights made for perfect BuffDDs and still maintaining high DPS while Stamina Nightblade(the hardest DD to play in the game) had the highest DPS output in the game. vAS+2 required magicka only while other dungeons that werent as hard to survive in, you could roll Stamina(mostly only 4 cause of positioning). A magDK should not outperform other classes in terms of DPS, DKs have the best Defensive passives ingame, making them also deal the most DPS would just break the games design.
A system that needed just a few class tweaks gets messed up again. Zenimax decides to nerf everything we had going for stamina making Stamina Nightblades the only viable stamina class next Patch while making Magicka(which is significantly easier to play) do much more damage. there is no thought behind those changes. I bet @ZOS_Wrobel played bottle-spinning deciding which part of the game gets messed up next. What awaits us is a 8/8 Magicka DD meta just as pre morrowind looked like...
//RANT OFF
Edited by TheRealSniker on May 14, 2018 3:02PM Im not gonna be very specific mechanically about whats causing certain issues but rather give general ideas, since Im not in the mood to write a book that nobody would read.
So here is a more or less quick rant about what bothers me:
Open World, Gear, Trials and Achievement System
Open world in ESO is boring and no end game player will bother exploring and finishing any of the content you have put there(Besides roleplayers but they arent a part of the cool kids club). End game players have too many resources to either buy a complete overland BiS Gear from guild stores or just 4man group a dungeon and speedrun it 5 times in under 10 minutes. Obtaining non-Trial BiS Gear in this game is a joke and takes no effort.
Although I love Trials I feel like finishing them repetatively doesnt reward me anymore...
Trials provide no reward when you finish them regularly a few times a day, an(considered) extreme dungeon like vHoF should bring amazing rewards to the table after finishing it.
Same goes for the new HM Dragonbones dungeons and the achievement system, there should be more to it to reward the end game player.
ESO is just poor in terms of Gear, Rewards and Character look adjustment. Or overall content.
I would love to see more amazing Motif Designs and Weapon Skins (Like the Ilambris Weapons that come with the next patch).
We need more unique Gear(Weapons or Armor) that are rare to represent the theme of an Elder Scrolls game, coding and working on such an item doesnt require much worktime, telling that from experience.
Imperial City
I love imperial city, the time we had double telvar event was also the time I enjoyed this game the most!
Sadly IC is literally dead. Imperial City is Zenimax's failed project which needs a heavy rework yet all they are saying "they dont have enough resources" yet manage to put out a massive chapter like morrowind or summerse. It would be an smallscalers utopia the way its built but the reward and boss system is just as stupid as every other reward system in the game. Imperial City should drop rare unique weapons for every class that would be considered good and very rare to drop for people to actually fight for it. There are 3 Portals to the IC which at first I thought are somehow connected to the fortresses in Cyrodiil, sadly thats not the case.
Zenimax should learn from other games and introduce interesting game mechanics from other games, like for example Aion, you needed to conquer 2/4 fortresses in an area to unlock portal to a special zone where you could drop Best in Slot PvP Gear. This mechanic kept players fighting for those fortresses for hours, sometimes days, it would make High end players start to fight for the campaign aswell! It would fill the unlocked Zones with every kind of players keeping it interesting and fun. Google Tiamaranta Eye for more Info.
PvP Balance
Theres a problem with Nightblades, there are bad players that weave their cloak inbetween every attack, and there are good players who only use cloak to disengage and otherwise put pressure on you.
Cloak should receive the Streak treatment to increase its cost for 4-5 seconds whenever you use it(That would solve the permacloak issue aswell).
Piercing Mark is an ability that disables a classes playstyle with one button click for entire 30 seconds. for an high-end player 2 seconds feel like alot, just imagine the pain you have to go through as an nightblade main when somebody spams piercing mark on you for 2 minutes +
Sometimes being a nightblade main feels completely useless. Such a mechanic is nowhere else to be seen besides ESO ofcourse...
With the cloak changes, piercing mark should be removed from the game, just imagine we would have a point click ability that disables shields or blocking entirely for 30 seconds, which you cannot entirely purge or counter in any way as a solo player.
Incap Strike is just simply overpowering players in PvP rather than being a huge nuke. You cannot nerf Incaps damage/damage multipliers or Cost, it would go against the Nightblades concept and would kill Nightblades in PvE, therefor I suggest tweaking the Defile debuff. Making Major Defile into Minor would only cause Stamblades to stack the Defile debuff since most of us run Infused Disease already... Removing the Stun would make the skill feel clunky and lack a core part and wouldnt fix it at all. Id Suggest removing Defile entirely from Incap Strike and making the Damage buff apply to the character itself so it cannot be easily countered by purges. Or just simply tweak Defile and Befoul CP.(Or delete it entirely)
Double Take should add Snare immunity for 0,5 seconds to make Magblades a better solo option(since the concept of a Nightblade is to be solo) and making the rogue idea shine through.
Overload as it is now and how ridiculous it will be next patch with existing patch notes is also a big or future issue for PvP. Currently overload can provide extreme pressure for a low cost ultimate which can not only be used once but many times. It is extremely powerful as it is, sometimes harder than other class or guild ultimates which cost quadruple or higher of it's cost. With the new patch on the horizon and the changes in current patch notes this ultimate will become completely unbalanced in PvP together with the new changes(One of which being the new empower).
Twin blade and blunt(Dual wield skill line), twin slashes and cleave. All of these dots are completely fine except for one reason, that is that they completely ignore physical resistance, there is no way to mitigate them aside from battle spirit. This makes this too powerful, or completely overpowered, making axe set ups superior to non-axe ones which damages game's flexibility in terms of gear. Now I understand that this is a unique mechanic to bleeding damage but it is completely unnecessary, it is also unique by being exclusive to axes. Best way of dealing with something as bleeds if you were to somehow make them less powerful is making them affected by physical resistance, this way you are not affecting PvE at all in the trial or group dungeon scene since trial groups already aim and have nearly complete physical penetration, therefore this change would barely affect PvE.
Reflective Scales is another mechanic that makes the PvP unbalanced, this skill makes good players become immune against any ranged player, doesnt matter if good or not. It is self explainable why. Changing this skill wouldnt affect PvE at all since its only being used in some situations and only by the best of players.
Defile and Cost Poisons are just unhealthy game mechanics that make the game not fun.
PvE Balance
The last few months was a paradise for PvE Balance besides maybe 2 builds that werent viable(Magplars and Stamsorcs). Magicka was being picked in hard to survive situations and Magblade(the hardest to play magicka class) had the highest DPS output. Stamina Templars and Dragoknights made for perfect BuffDDs and still maintaining high DPS while Stamina Nightblade(the hardest DD to play in the game) had the highest DPS output in the game. vAS+2 required magicka only while other dungeons that werent as hard to survive in, you could roll Stamina(mostly only 4 cause of positioning). A magDK should not outperform other classes in terms of DPS, DKs have the best Defensive passives ingame, making them also deal the most DPS would just break the games design.
A system that needed just a few class tweaks gets messed up again. Zenimax decides to nerf everything we had going for stamina making Stamina Nightblades the only viable stamina class next Patch while making Magicka(which is significantly easier to play) do much more damage. there is no thought behind those changes. I bet @ZOS_Wrobel played bottle-spinning deciding which part of the game gets messed up next. What awaits us is a 8/8 Magicka DD meta just as pre morrowind looked like...
//RANT OFF
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I'm an end game player and I still play all the story (zone content). Sometimes is nice to enjoy content for the story it tells and the new experiences that brings rather than just being about stats, numbers and loot.TheRealSniker wrote: »Open world in ESO is boring and no end game player will bother exploring and finishing any of the content you have put there(Besides roleplayers but they arent a part of the cool kids club).
Or does that just make me part of the cool kids club?
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✭✭✭I came expecting a rant about the game, i did not leave disappointed.Edited by Anotherone773 on May 14, 2018 2:36PM6 -
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I'm an end game player and I still play all the story (zone content). Sometimes is nice to enjoy content for the story it tells and the new experiences that brings rather than just being about stats, numbers and loot.TheRealSniker wrote: »Open world in ESO is boring and no end game player will bother exploring and finishing any of the content you have put there(Besides roleplayers but they arent a part of the cool kids club).
Or does that just make me part of the cool kids club?
Youre a roleplayer in heart
, there is a reason why outside cities there are 0 players Edited by TheRealSniker on May 14, 2018 2:39PM0 -
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✭✭I play story content inbetween VDSA, Vet Trials and helping ppl get their Fang/ Scale achieves. 100% hardcore is only good if you’re 19 and on parental/ government assistance. Life is fun too, yeah? So’s relaxing and clearing faceroll content.17 -
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✭Peekachu99 wrote: »I play story content inbetween VDSA, Vet Trials and helping ppl get their Fang/ Scale achieves. 100% hardcore is only good if you’re 19 and on parental/ government assistance. Life is fun too, yeah? So’s relaxing and clearing faceroll content.
I have an university, side job, doing my drivers license atm, running my youtube and playing ESO and I hate the faceroll content. Challenge makes me happy, yet there isnt much eso has to offer. Besides Trials which are repetativeEdited by TheRealSniker on May 14, 2018 3:00PM1 -
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Because most people have already beat the content? Pretty sure you'll find plenty of people outside the city on week one of Summerset. Even if people are not questing they'll be doing other activities, farming skyshards, resources, going to old zones to farm psijic etc.TheRealSniker wrote: »
I'm an end game player and I still play all the story (zone content). Sometimes is nice to enjoy content for the story it tells and the new experiences that brings rather than just being about stats, numbers and loot.TheRealSniker wrote: »Open world in ESO is boring and no end game player will bother exploring and finishing any of the content you have put there(Besides roleplayers but they arent a part of the cool kids club).
Or does that just make me part of the cool kids club?
Youre a roleplayer in heart, there is a reason why outside cities there are 0 players
Overworld has things to do it in even for the trials and PvP "only" players. The difficulty is kept low because these are areas where new (no CP, no gear, no knowledge) players will be exploring and playing.
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Because most people have already beat the content? Pretty sure you'll find plenty of people outside the city on week one of Summerset. Even if people are not questing they'll be doing other activities, farming skyshards, resources, going to old zones to farm psijic etc.TheRealSniker wrote: »
I'm an end game player and I still play all the story (zone content). Sometimes is nice to enjoy content for the story it tells and the new experiences that brings rather than just being about stats, numbers and loot.TheRealSniker wrote: »Open world in ESO is boring and no end game player will bother exploring and finishing any of the content you have put there(Besides roleplayers but they arent a part of the cool kids club).
Or does that just make me part of the cool kids club?
Youre a roleplayer in heart, there is a reason why outside cities there are 0 players
Overworld has things to do it in even for the trials and PvP "only" players. The difficulty is kept low because these are areas where new (no CP, no gear, no knowledge) players will be exploring and playing.
You could do a few hours of cyrodiil pvp, you could do a few hours of DLC dungeons or Trials, could you spend a few hours of farming mages guild or exploring caves without falling asleep? Cause I dont see any other activities you could do there. Yes I understand its meant for low levels players etc, but even then you could adjust mobs to be way more harder for end game players and reward us for that. By introducing rare drops or unique quest lines with rewards we could utilize in endgame contentEdited by TheRealSniker on May 14, 2018 2:51PM1 -
boombazookajd✭✭✭✭✭TheRealSniker wrote: »Theres a problem with Nightblades
Sure, blame the nightblades. I hate gankers and NB's too but their whole steathly thing IS their class. If you nerf the stealthy thing, you kill night blades and the fun way to kill night blades is to run away screaming "I'm getting ganked guys" with Rapid maneuver, and make a b-line for the crown.Drathus Delenu- Dunmer magDk: Shehai Shatterer, Mageslayer, Stormproof, Peak Scaler, Clockwork Confounder, Orderly, Master Wizard, Cloudrest Hero, Undaunted, Dragonstar Arena Champion
Thoronir Rolston- Breton petsorc: Stormproof
Zaakazha-Redguard stamblade: Boethia's Scythe, Clockwork Confounder, Maelstrom Arena Champion, Dragonstar Arena Champion
Scrubs:
Justinius Maximus Decimus- Altmer magblade
Agronak gro'Mashul- Orc DK Tank
Valerya Hawkcroft- Breton healer
Zaaka- Imperial stamDK/crafter
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✭boombazookajd wrote: »TheRealSniker wrote: »Theres a problem with Nightblades
Sure, blame the nightblades. I hate gankers and NB's too but their whole steathly thing IS their class. If you nerf the stealthy thing, you kill night blades and the fun way to kill night blades is to run away screaming "I'm getting ganked guys" with Rapid maneuver, and make a b-line for the crown.
I am a stamblade main, I dont want to kill the class, I love ganking etc but sometimes standing face to face with an warden and still winning just feels more like overpowering rather than a rogue playstyle2 -
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✭✭TheRealSniker wrote: »Peekachu99 wrote: »I play story content inbetween VDSA, Vet Trials and helping ppl get their Fang/ Scale achieves. 100% hardcore is only good if you’re 19 and on parental/ government assistance. Life is fun too, yeah? So’s relaxing and clearing faceroll content.
I have an university, side job, doing my drivers license atm, running my youtube and playing ESO and I hate the faceroll content. Challenge makes me happy, yet there isnt much eso has to offer.
Study physics then you have a challenge
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Aldruin✭✭✭Finally a good summary about what's generally wrong in the game. Full support for most of the suggested changes.
Other than balancing they should also focus more on more rewarding 4 man content like vDSA was when it came out or even maelstrom style 2man content where both of the 2 people should have decent damage but also be able to take care of themselves.
Trial downscaling could also be a thing to at least 8 people, it's very frustrating to get 12 capable people who are always available.
Housing's biggest problem in my opinion is that you can go in your house and do all kinds of time saving stuff but leaving your house is a pain and just discourages you to go in in the first place. At least make it so we can put a portal in our house and tune it to one of the main cities. And introduce housing mundus stones in a non p2w manner.6 -
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I'm an end game player and I still play all the story (zone content). Sometimes is nice to enjoy content for the story it tells and the new experiences that brings rather than just being about stats, numbers and loot.TheRealSniker wrote: »Open world in ESO is boring and no end game player will bother exploring and finishing any of the content you have put there(Besides roleplayers but they arent a part of the cool kids club).
Or does that just make me part of the cool kids club?
I’m in the same boat. I’m wearing a couple sets of all legendary gear, but I’m still questing through the game world. Sure, I’m two-shotting everything, but that’s a privilege I earned by playing through the content, farming gear, and upgrading my gear. The 600-ish CPs help too
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✭TheRealSniker wrote: »
I'm an end game player and I still play all the story (zone content). Sometimes is nice to enjoy content for the story it tells and the new experiences that brings rather than just being about stats, numbers and loot.TheRealSniker wrote: »Open world in ESO is boring and no end game player will bother exploring and finishing any of the content you have put there(Besides roleplayers but they arent a part of the cool kids club).
Or does that just make me part of the cool kids club?
Youre a roleplayer in heart, there is a reason why outside cities there are 0 players
I disagree. I run across lots of players when out in the world questing, doing dolmens, delves and public dungeons.
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I'm an end game player and I still play all the story (zone content). Sometimes is nice to enjoy content for the story it tells and the new experiences that brings rather than just being about stats, numbers and loot.TheRealSniker wrote: »Open world in ESO is boring and no end game player will bother exploring and finishing any of the content you have put there(Besides roleplayers but they arent a part of the cool kids club).
Or does that just make me part of the cool kids club?
I’m in the same boat. I’m wearing a couple sets of all legendary gear, but I’m still questing through the game world. Sure, I’m two-shotting everything, but that’s a privilege I earned by playing through the content, farming gear, and upgrading my gear. The 600-ish CPs help too
After a short break I returned for a couple of months and I've been getting bored again. I've been really digging trying to understand why. I love the world, the lore, the music, the pvp, and the questing. I always felt I too earned the gear, cp, and abilities to melt mobs faces off but I spend quite a bit of time in Overland waiting for dungeon finder to pop, finishing zones, or just farming materials and it's just so boring. There really is no challenge in 80% of the game. Sure trials, newer vet dungeons, and vet maelstrom are tough but other than that..not so much. I love when new zones drop as I love the stories but as a veteran player I feel I'm punished, not privileged with weak pve.
Other that the obvious like great gear and CP points, the one thing I've noticed that makes this games pve easy is the overabundance of AOE abilities. I've even reset my cp points and I can still mow through stuff at a ridiculous pace. I mean take for instance my magwarden. I can hit a public dungeon, encounter a group of 10 mobs, drop deep fissure, lightning blockade, and winters revenge, and I might be able to get off 2 single target abilities (bird, force pulse) before I'm looting all and moving on to the next group with little to no fear. I ca do the same with my stamplar or stamden. Caltrops, endless hail, and a class aoe has the same effect. This is done repeatedly for almost everything. How is this fun? Where's the challenge? If I had one AOE to soften a group but I had to actually fight each one to finish them off it might make the fight drag out a bit longer and could increase the difficulty. I began looking back at my 20+ year history of MMOs and I cannot remember a MMO where all of the classes had this much AOE potential. Back in the day in say DAOC or EQ2 when you were forming a group you specifically looked to add AOE based classes. That was their role. Now all classes can do everything pretty damn well. I don't want to go further with this but I saw this post and I wanted to share something I was thinking about this weekend.
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ArvenAldmeri✭✭✭✭✭After first paragraph I didnt bother to read the rest tbh, too long and if its all the same bs like the first paragraph there is no reason. I dont know whats your scale of players that you take this from but I am endgame player doing vet trails but I still go and get gear in dungeons, for sure not running them 5 times in 10 minutes because thats just impossible with loading screens itself taking about a mintue lol, no seriously, it takes longer than that, dont make it so ridicolous, not to mention most bis gear is not even dungeon loot. Secondly not all engame players have enough money to just buy everything, ok? Until I started to actually focus on making money I had max of 200k, hardly something to get whole bis gear in gold with. Now I have 4 million but what I do with that? I dont buy gear, I dont buy gold mats, I am actually doing HOUSING. Yep, even endgame trial ppl sometimes like to just go chill and do some housing stuff. I cant count how many millions I spend on housing lol. And I am NOT a role player. I still do daily quests for achievements, killing mobs, fishing, collecting non needed books.Magicka sorcerer from start until the end. Always. Through the good times and the bad, even now when its probably saddest PvE dps it has ever been.
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✭TheRealSniker wrote: »//RANT ON
Im not gonna be very specific mechanically about whats causing certain issues but rather give general ideas, since Im not in the mood to write a book that nobody would read.
So here is a more or less quick rant about what bothers me:
Open World, Gear, Trials and Achievement System
Open world in ESO is boring and no end game player will bother exploring and finishing any of the content you have put there(Besides roleplayers but they arent a part of the cool kids club). End game players have too many resources to either buy a complete overland BiS Gear from guild stores or just 4man group a dungeon and speedrun it 5 times in under 10 minutes. Obtaining non-Trial BiS Gear in this game is a joke and takes no effort.
Although I love Trials I feel like finishing them repetatively doesnt reward me anymore...
Trials provide no reward when you finish them regularly a few times a day, an(considered) extreme dungeon like vHoF should bring amazing rewards to the table after finishing it.
Same goes for the new HM Dragonbones dungeons and the achievement system, there should be more to it to reward the end game player.
ESO is just poor in terms of Gear, Rewards and Character look adjustment. Or overall content.
I would love to see more amazing Motif Designs and Weapon Skins (Like the Ilambris Weapons that come with the next patch).
We need more unique Gear(Weapons or Armor) that are rare to represent the theme of an Elder Scrolls game, coding and working on such an item doesnt require much worktime, telling that from experience.
Imperial City
I love imperial city, the time we had double telvar event was also the time I enjoyed this game the most!
Sadly IC is literally dead. Imperial City is Zenimax's failed project which needs a heavy rework yet all they are saying "they dont have enough resources" yet manage to put out a massive chapter like morrowind or summerse. It would be an smallscalers utopia the way its built but the reward and boss system is just as stupid as every other reward system in the game. Imperial City should drop rare unique weapons for every class that would be considered good and very rare to drop for people to actually fight for it. There are 3 Portals to the IC which at first I thought are somehow connected to the fortresses in Cyrodiil, sadly thats not the case.
Zenimax should learn from other games and introduce interesting game mechanics from other games, like for example Aion, you needed to conquer 2/4 fortresses in an area to unlock portal to a special zone where you could drop Best in Slot PvP Gear. This mechanic kept players fighting for those fortresses for hours, sometimes days, it would make High end players start to fight for the campaign aswell! It would fill the unlocked Zones with every kind of players keeping it interesting and fun. Google Tiamaranta Eye for more Info.
PvP Balance
Theres a problem with Nightblades, there are bad players that weave their cloak inbetween every attack, and there are good players who only use cloak to disengage and otherwise put pressure on you.
Cloak should receive the Streak treatment to increase its cost for 4-5 seconds whenever you use it(That would solve the permacloak issue aswell).
Piercing Mark is an ability that disables a classes playstyle with one button click for entire 30 seconds. for an high-end player 2 seconds feel like alot, just imagine the pain you have to go through as an nightblade main when somebody spams piercing mark on you for 2 minutes +
Sometimes being a nightblade main feels completely useless. Such a mechanic is nowhere else to be seen besides ESO ofcourse...
With the cloak changes, piercing mark should be removed from the game, just imagine we would have a point click ability that disables shields or blocking entirely for 30 seconds, which you cannot entirely purge or counter in any way as a solo player.
Incap Strike is just simply overpowering players in PvP rather than being a huge nuke. You cannot nerf Incaps damage/damage multipliers or Cost, it would go against the Nightblades concept and would kill Nightblades in PvE, therefor I suggest tweaking the Defile debuff. Making Major Defile into Minor would only cause Stamblades to stack the Defile debuff since most of us run Infused Disease already... Removing the Stun would make the skill feel clunky and lack a core part and wouldnt fix it at all. Id Suggest removing Defile entirely from Incap Strike and making the Damage buff apply to the character itself so it cannot be easily countered by purges. Or just simply tweak Defile and Befoul CP.(Or delete it entirely)
Double Take should add Snare immunity for 0,5 seconds to make Magblades a better solo option(since the concept of a Nightblade is to be solo) and making the rogue idea shine through.
Overload as it is now and how ridiculous it will be next patch with existing patch notes is also a big or future issue for PvP. Currently overload can provide extreme pressure for a low cost ultimate which can not only be used once but many times. It is extremely powerful as it is, sometimes harder than other class or guild ultimates which cost quadruple or higher of it's cost. With the new patch on the horizon and the changes in current patch notes this ultimate will become completely unbalanced in PvP together with the new changes(One of which being the new empower).
Twin blade and blunt(Dual wield skill line), twin slashes and cleave. All of these dots are completely fine except for one reason, that is that they completely ignore physical resistance, there is no way to mitigate them aside from battle spirit. This makes this too powerful, or completely overpowered, making axe set ups superior to non-axe ones which damages game's flexibility in terms of gear. Now I understand that this is a unique mechanic to bleeding damage but it is completely unnecessary, it is also unique by being exclusive to axes. Best way of dealing with something as bleeds if you were to somehow make them less powerful is making them affected by physical resistance, this way you are not affecting PvE at all in the trial or group dungeon scene since trial groups already aim and have nearly complete physical penetration, therefore this change would barely affect PvE.
Reflective Scales is another mechanic that makes the PvP unbalanced, this skill makes good players become immune against any ranged player, doesnt matter if good or not. It is self explainable why. Changing this skill wouldnt affect PvE at all since its only being used in some situations and only by the best of players.
Defile and Cost Poisons are just unhealthy game mechanics that make the game not fun.
PvE Balance
The last few months was a paradise for PvE Balance besides maybe 2 builds that werent viable(Magplars and Stamsorcs). Magicka was being picked in hard to survive situations and Magblade(the hardest to play magicka class) had the highest DPS output. Stamina Templars and Dragoknights made for perfect BuffDDs and still maintaining high DPS while Stamina Nightblade(the hardest DD to play in the game) had the highest DPS output in the game. vAS+2 required magicka only while other dungeons that werent as hard to survive in, you could roll Stamina(mostly only 4 cause of positioning). A magDK should not outperform other classes in terms of DPS, DKs have the best Defensive passives ingame, making them also deal the most DPS would just break the games design.
A system that needed just a few class tweaks gets messed up again. Zenimax decides to nerf everything we had going for stamina making Stamina Nightblades the only viable stamina class next Patch while making Magicka(which is significantly easier to play) do much more damage. there is no thought behind those changes. I bet @ZOS_Wrobel played bottle-spinning deciding which part of the game gets messed up next. What awaits us is a 8/8 Magicka DD meta just as pre morrowind looked like...
//RANT OFF
You know nothing of PvE if you think reflective scale isn't used by EVERY DK TANK IN EXISTENCE on multiple fights....its a lifesaver in many fights. I usually swap this skill into my flex slot at least one fight if not more per vet DLC dungeon. Since I don't play nightblades I cant answer for any of those skills, but I hope you are closer to the mark there. Also, in PvP scales does NOT make you immune against all ranged attacks, there are plenty of non-projectile ranged attacks(crushing shock, lightning stave heavy attacks, radiant destruction, etc etc) Scale is one of the few things that makes playing a MDK in PvP viable...its one of the DK strengths, I dont think I would touch a MDK without it considering the increased costs for all the MDK skills compared to other classes.0 -
Pops_ND_Irish✭✭✭✭✭Seems great to me !! No issues here. Excited about June 5th as well !!Edited by Pops_ND_Irish on May 14, 2018 4:07PM3
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jedtb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭in response to the op....
there's nothing 'wrong' with the game, it's just that you are burned out - take a break.
nothing lasts forever.8 -
jypcy✭✭✭✭✭TheRealSniker wrote: »//RANT ON
Im not gonna be very specific mechanically about whats causing certain issues but rather give general ideas, since Im not in the mood to write a book that nobody would read.
So here is a more or less quick rant about what bothers me:
Open World, Gear, Trials and Achievement System
Open world in ESO is boring and no end game player will bother exploring and finishing any of the content you have put there(Besides roleplayers but they arent a part of the cool kids club). End game players have too many resources to either buy a complete overland BiS Gear from guild stores or just 4man group a dungeon and speedrun it 5 times in under 10 minutes. Obtaining non-Trial BiS Gear in this game is a joke and takes no effort.
Although I love Trials I feel like finishing them repetatively doesnt reward me anymore...
Trials provide no reward when you finish them regularly a few times a day, an(considered) extreme dungeon like vHoF should bring amazing rewards to the table after finishing it.
Same goes for the new HM Dragonbones dungeons and the achievement system, there should be more to it to reward the end game player.
ESO is just poor in terms of Gear, Rewards and Character look adjustment. Or overall content.
I would love to see more amazing Motif Designs and Weapon Skins (Like the Ilambris Weapons that come with the next patch).
We need more unique Gear(Weapons or Armor) that are rare to represent the theme of an Elder Scrolls game, coding and working on such an item doesnt require much worktime, telling that from experience.
Imperial City
I love imperial city, the time we had double telvar event was also the time I enjoyed this game the most!
Sadly IC is literally dead. Imperial City is Zenimax's failed project which needs a heavy rework yet all they are saying "they dont have enough resources" yet manage to put out a massive chapter like morrowind or summerse. It would be an smallscalers utopia the way its built but the reward and boss system is just as stupid as every other reward system in the game. Imperial City should drop rare unique weapons for every class that would be considered good and very rare to drop for people to actually fight for it. There are 3 Portals to the IC which at first I thought are somehow connected to the fortresses in Cyrodiil, sadly thats not the case.
Zenimax should learn from other games and introduce interesting game mechanics from other games, like for example Aion, you needed to conquer 2/4 fortresses in an area to unlock portal to a special zone where you could drop Best in Slot PvP Gear. This mechanic kept players fighting for those fortresses for hours, sometimes days, it would make High end players start to fight for the campaign aswell! It would fill the unlocked Zones with every kind of players keeping it interesting and fun. Google Tiamaranta Eye for more Info.
PvP Balance
Theres a problem with Nightblades, there are bad players that weave their cloak inbetween every attack, and there are good players who only use cloak to disengage and otherwise put pressure on you.
Cloak should receive the Streak treatment to increase its cost for 4-5 seconds whenever you use it(That would solve the permacloak issue aswell).
Piercing Mark is an ability that disables a classes playstyle with one button click for entire 30 seconds. for an high-end player 2 seconds feel like alot, just imagine the pain you have to go through as an nightblade main when somebody spams piercing mark on you for 2 minutes +
Sometimes being a nightblade main feels completely useless. Such a mechanic is nowhere else to be seen besides ESO ofcourse...
With the cloak changes, piercing mark should be removed from the game, just imagine we would have a point click ability that disables shields or blocking entirely for 30 seconds, which you cannot entirely purge or counter in any way as a solo player.
Incap Strike is just simply overpowering players in PvP rather than being a huge nuke. You cannot nerf Incaps damage/damage multipliers or Cost, it would go against the Nightblades concept and would kill Nightblades in PvE, therefor I suggest tweaking the Defile debuff. Making Major Defile into Minor would only cause Stamblades to stack the Defile debuff since most of us run Infused Disease already... Removing the Stun would make the skill feel clunky and lack a core part and wouldnt fix it at all. Id Suggest removing Defile entirely from Incap Strike and making the Damage buff apply to the character itself so it cannot be easily countered by purges. Or just simply tweak Defile and Befoul CP.(Or delete it entirely)
Double Take should add Snare immunity for 0,5 seconds to make Magblades a better solo option(since the concept of a Nightblade is to be solo) and making the rogue idea shine through.
Overload as it is now and how ridiculous it will be next patch with existing patch notes is also a big or future issue for PvP. Currently overload can provide extreme pressure for a low cost ultimate which can not only be used once but many times. It is extremely powerful as it is, sometimes harder than other class or guild ultimates which cost quadruple or higher of it's cost. With the new patch on the horizon and the changes in current patch notes this ultimate will become completely unbalanced in PvP together with the new changes(One of which being the new empower).
Twin blade and blunt(Dual wield skill line), twin slashes and cleave. All of these dots are completely fine except for one reason, that is that they completely ignore physical resistance, there is no way to mitigate them aside from battle spirit. This makes this too powerful, or completely overpowered, making axe set ups superior to non-axe ones which damages game's flexibility in terms of gear. Now I understand that this is a unique mechanic to bleeding damage but it is completely unnecessary, it is also unique by being exclusive to axes. Best way of dealing with something as bleeds if you were to somehow make them less powerful is making them affected by physical resistance, this way you are not affecting PvE at all in the trial or group dungeon scene since trial groups already aim and have nearly complete physical penetration, therefore this change would barely affect PvE.
Reflective Scales is another mechanic that makes the PvP unbalanced, this skill makes good players become immune against any ranged player, doesnt matter if good or not. It is self explainable why. Changing this skill wouldnt affect PvE at all since its only being used in some situations and only by the best of players.
Defile and Cost Poisons are just unhealthy game mechanics that make the game not fun.
PvE Balance
The last few months was a paradise for PvE Balance besides maybe 2 builds that werent viable(Magplars and Stamsorcs). Magicka was being picked in hard to survive situations and Magblade(the hardest to play magicka class) had the highest DPS output. Stamina Templars and Dragoknights made for perfect BuffDDs and still maintaining high DPS while Stamina Nightblade(the hardest DD to play in the game) had the highest DPS output in the game. vAS+2 required magicka only while other dungeons that werent as hard to survive in, you could roll Stamina(mostly only 4 cause of positioning). A magDK should not outperform other classes in terms of DPS, DKs have the best Defensive passives ingame, making them also deal the most DPS would just break the games design.
A system that needed just a few class tweaks gets messed up again. Zenimax decides to nerf everything we had going for stamina making Stamina Nightblades the only viable stamina class next Patch while making Magicka(which is significantly easier to play) do much more damage. there is no thought behind those changes. I bet @ZOS_Wrobel played bottle-spinning deciding which part of the game gets messed up next. What awaits us is a 8/8 Magicka DD meta just as pre morrowind looked like...
//RANT OFF
You know nothing of PvE if you think reflective scale isn't used by EVERY DK TANK IN EXISTENCE on multiple fights....its a lifesaver in many fights. I usually swap this skill into my flex slot at least one fight if not more per vet DLC dungeon. Since I don't play nightblades I cant answer for any of those skills, but I hope you are closer to the mark there. Also, in PvP scales does NOT make you immune against all ranged attacks, there are plenty of non-projectile ranged attacks(crushing shock, lightning stave heavy attacks, radiant destruction, etc etc) Scale is one of the few things that makes playing a MDK in PvP viable...its one of the DK strengths, I dont think I would touch a MDK without it considering the increased costs for all the MDK skills compared to other classes.
The only instance I use wings in pve is for Thurvokun. That’s what I see from other tanks I play with as well, but I main tanks so I’ll admit my sample size of what the community at large is doing isn’t huge.
For the record OP has way more overgeneralizations that don’t do his points any favors, and for the most part I don’t agree with his complaints, but felt I should clarify this point as another person who does know a little something about pve 0 -
Zardayne✭✭✭✭✭jedtb16_ESO wrote: »in response to the op....
there's nothing 'wrong' with the game, it's just that you are burned out - take a break.
nothing lasts forever.
I wouldn't say there is nothing wrong with the game...
I would agree though that taking a break is definitely a good option.3 -
TheRealSniker✭✭✭✭✭
✭jedtb16_ESO wrote: »in response to the op....
there's nothing 'wrong' with the game, it's just that you are burned out - take a break.
nothing lasts forever.
you might be right, it might be time for a break0 -
jypcy✭✭✭✭✭TheRealSniker wrote: »jedtb16_ESO wrote: »in response to the op....
there's nothing 'wrong' with the game, it's just that you are burned out - take a break.
nothing lasts forever.
you might be right, it might be time for a break
I’ve taken a few breaks from the game and I definitely think it can be a good choice. I imagine I’d find much less enjoyment in the game than I do now had I spent an equal amount of time playing it but all consecutively instead of spaced apart.
Also to your original point: I won’t get into the nitty gritty, but once you get good enough even soloing group content isn’t that challenging. I can’t imagine even bringing back battle scaling to overland would really up the ante for it, just change it from being comically easy to tedious. And as for rewarding, I wouldn’t be surprised if there are over 100 titles in the game by now, plus a number of skins, costumes, etc., if you’re interested in stuff you can show off (like a weapon skin would be). Or, we’re close to if not over 30k achievement points you can work towards, some of which do present really challenging prereqs (I still don’t know if anyone on PC-NA has Tick Tock Tormenter) if you’re looking for rewards with more intrinsic value. I’m guessing you wouldn’t really want super powerful gear rewards, else you’d just end up with faceroll easy content again even if they did manage to make things more challenging for experienced players.
In sum I think the game as is has a good (and logical) sense of what it offers players. It can help a lot once you recognize what that is and decide whether it’s your cup of tea or not. But I wouldn’t say that, with that in mind, there’s something wrong with the game. It’s maybe not as good as it could be for what it’s trying to do, but I don’t see it as failing on the front of replayability and rewards.2 -
TheRealSniker✭✭✭✭✭
✭TheRealSniker wrote: »jedtb16_ESO wrote: »in response to the op....
there's nothing 'wrong' with the game, it's just that you are burned out - take a break.
nothing lasts forever.
you might be right, it might be time for a break
I’ve taken a few breaks from the game and I definitely think it can be a good choice. I imagine I’d find much less enjoyment in the game than I do now had I spent an equal amount of time playing it but all consecutively instead of spaced apart.
Also to your original point: I won’t get into the nitty gritty, but once you get good enough even soloing group content isn’t that challenging. I can’t imagine even bringing back battle scaling to overland would really up the ante for it, just change it from being comically easy to tedious. And as for rewarding, I wouldn’t be surprised if there are over 100 titles in the game by now, plus a number of skins, costumes, etc., if you’re interested in stuff you can show off (like a weapon skin would be). Or, we’re close to if not over 30k achievement points you can work towards, some of which do present really challenging prereqs (I still don’t know if anyone on PC-NA has Tick Tock Tormenter) if you’re looking for rewards with more intrinsic value. I’m guessing you wouldn’t really want super powerful gear rewards, else you’d just end up with faceroll easy content again even if they did manage to make things more challenging for experienced players.
In sum I think the game as is has a good (and logical) sense of what it offers players. It can help a lot once you recognize what that is and decide whether it’s your cup of tea or not. But I wouldn’t say that, with that in mind, there’s something wrong with the game. It’s maybe not as good as it could be for what it’s trying to do, but I don’t see it as failing on the front of replayability and rewards.
point is those titles dont mean anything, and trust me I do own all the stuff from trials already, even tick tock. What annoys me is that none of this open world has been utilized in any way for end game players and its just boring, useless space0 -
Jayman1000✭✭✭✭✭
✭Overland open world should be modified in two ways: 1. introduce dynamic content, like roaming and dynamically changing enemies, bosses, or even larger hordes of monsters. 2. Overland enemies should generally be much more difficult and hard to defeat, have more health and do more damage. Right now they are fragile snowflakes that break and smelt at the slightest touch.1 -
jypcy✭✭✭✭✭[edited to remove quote]
Nah I would say OP has some legitimate concerns. Like said there are also some overgeneralizations which make it more dramatic than need be, but I can see where he’s coming from. I don’t consider overland boring and useless myself, but that’s a matter of opinion. To reiterate, I just think ESO is doing something specific, it’s doing that reasonably well, and when considered in a context larger than being an experienced, high level player, I don’t know that there’s a change they could make to overland that works for all/most players.Edited by ZOS_JesC on May 15, 2018 1:38PM1 -
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Some, yes.Nah I would say OP has some legitimate concerns.
The "//RANT ON" changed the entire context of how I read his post, like a whining child throwing a temper tantrum.
OP should remove the marker.
Context is everything. I know schools don't teach kids what context is anymore, but to us old farts, it still matters, especially in text communication, which removes all communication signals from discussion.
Unless they're specifically added, such as "rant" (which is anger)
Food for thought.
I've updated my previous post and removed my stupid comment.
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josiahva✭✭✭✭✭
✭TheRealSniker wrote: »//RANT ON
Im not gonna be very specific mechanically about whats causing certain issues but rather give general ideas, since Im not in the mood to write a book that nobody would read.
So here is a more or less quick rant about what bothers me:
Open World, Gear, Trials and Achievement System
Open world in ESO is boring and no end game player will bother exploring and finishing any of the content you have put there(Besides roleplayers but they arent a part of the cool kids club). End game players have too many resources to either buy a complete overland BiS Gear from guild stores or just 4man group a dungeon and speedrun it 5 times in under 10 minutes. Obtaining non-Trial BiS Gear in this game is a joke and takes no effort.
Although I love Trials I feel like finishing them repetatively doesnt reward me anymore...
Trials provide no reward when you finish them regularly a few times a day, an(considered) extreme dungeon like vHoF should bring amazing rewards to the table after finishing it.
Same goes for the new HM Dragonbones dungeons and the achievement system, there should be more to it to reward the end game player.
ESO is just poor in terms of Gear, Rewards and Character look adjustment. Or overall content.
I would love to see more amazing Motif Designs and Weapon Skins (Like the Ilambris Weapons that come with the next patch).
We need more unique Gear(Weapons or Armor) that are rare to represent the theme of an Elder Scrolls game, coding and working on such an item doesnt require much worktime, telling that from experience.
Imperial City
I love imperial city, the time we had double telvar event was also the time I enjoyed this game the most!
Sadly IC is literally dead. Imperial City is Zenimax's failed project which needs a heavy rework yet all they are saying "they dont have enough resources" yet manage to put out a massive chapter like morrowind or summerse. It would be an smallscalers utopia the way its built but the reward and boss system is just as stupid as every other reward system in the game. Imperial City should drop rare unique weapons for every class that would be considered good and very rare to drop for people to actually fight for it. There are 3 Portals to the IC which at first I thought are somehow connected to the fortresses in Cyrodiil, sadly thats not the case.
Zenimax should learn from other games and introduce interesting game mechanics from other games, like for example Aion, you needed to conquer 2/4 fortresses in an area to unlock portal to a special zone where you could drop Best in Slot PvP Gear. This mechanic kept players fighting for those fortresses for hours, sometimes days, it would make High end players start to fight for the campaign aswell! It would fill the unlocked Zones with every kind of players keeping it interesting and fun. Google Tiamaranta Eye for more Info.
PvP Balance
Theres a problem with Nightblades, there are bad players that weave their cloak inbetween every attack, and there are good players who only use cloak to disengage and otherwise put pressure on you.
Cloak should receive the Streak treatment to increase its cost for 4-5 seconds whenever you use it(That would solve the permacloak issue aswell).
Piercing Mark is an ability that disables a classes playstyle with one button click for entire 30 seconds. for an high-end player 2 seconds feel like alot, just imagine the pain you have to go through as an nightblade main when somebody spams piercing mark on you for 2 minutes +
Sometimes being a nightblade main feels completely useless. Such a mechanic is nowhere else to be seen besides ESO ofcourse...
With the cloak changes, piercing mark should be removed from the game, just imagine we would have a point click ability that disables shields or blocking entirely for 30 seconds, which you cannot entirely purge or counter in any way as a solo player.
Incap Strike is just simply overpowering players in PvP rather than being a huge nuke. You cannot nerf Incaps damage/damage multipliers or Cost, it would go against the Nightblades concept and would kill Nightblades in PvE, therefor I suggest tweaking the Defile debuff. Making Major Defile into Minor would only cause Stamblades to stack the Defile debuff since most of us run Infused Disease already... Removing the Stun would make the skill feel clunky and lack a core part and wouldnt fix it at all. Id Suggest removing Defile entirely from Incap Strike and making the Damage buff apply to the character itself so it cannot be easily countered by purges. Or just simply tweak Defile and Befoul CP.(Or delete it entirely)
Double Take should add Snare immunity for 0,5 seconds to make Magblades a better solo option(since the concept of a Nightblade is to be solo) and making the rogue idea shine through.
Overload as it is now and how ridiculous it will be next patch with existing patch notes is also a big or future issue for PvP. Currently overload can provide extreme pressure for a low cost ultimate which can not only be used once but many times. It is extremely powerful as it is, sometimes harder than other class or guild ultimates which cost quadruple or higher of it's cost. With the new patch on the horizon and the changes in current patch notes this ultimate will become completely unbalanced in PvP together with the new changes(One of which being the new empower).
Twin blade and blunt(Dual wield skill line), twin slashes and cleave. All of these dots are completely fine except for one reason, that is that they completely ignore physical resistance, there is no way to mitigate them aside from battle spirit. This makes this too powerful, or completely overpowered, making axe set ups superior to non-axe ones which damages game's flexibility in terms of gear. Now I understand that this is a unique mechanic to bleeding damage but it is completely unnecessary, it is also unique by being exclusive to axes. Best way of dealing with something as bleeds if you were to somehow make them less powerful is making them affected by physical resistance, this way you are not affecting PvE at all in the trial or group dungeon scene since trial groups already aim and have nearly complete physical penetration, therefore this change would barely affect PvE.
Reflective Scales is another mechanic that makes the PvP unbalanced, this skill makes good players become immune against any ranged player, doesnt matter if good or not. It is self explainable why. Changing this skill wouldnt affect PvE at all since its only being used in some situations and only by the best of players.
Defile and Cost Poisons are just unhealthy game mechanics that make the game not fun.
PvE Balance
The last few months was a paradise for PvE Balance besides maybe 2 builds that werent viable(Magplars and Stamsorcs). Magicka was being picked in hard to survive situations and Magblade(the hardest to play magicka class) had the highest DPS output. Stamina Templars and Dragoknights made for perfect BuffDDs and still maintaining high DPS while Stamina Nightblade(the hardest DD to play in the game) had the highest DPS output in the game. vAS+2 required magicka only while other dungeons that werent as hard to survive in, you could roll Stamina(mostly only 4 cause of positioning). A magDK should not outperform other classes in terms of DPS, DKs have the best Defensive passives ingame, making them also deal the most DPS would just break the games design.
A system that needed just a few class tweaks gets messed up again. Zenimax decides to nerf everything we had going for stamina making Stamina Nightblades the only viable stamina class next Patch while making Magicka(which is significantly easier to play) do much more damage. there is no thought behind those changes. I bet @ZOS_Wrobel played bottle-spinning deciding which part of the game gets messed up next. What awaits us is a 8/8 Magicka DD meta just as pre morrowind looked like...
//RANT OFF
You know nothing of PvE if you think reflective scale isn't used by EVERY DK TANK IN EXISTENCE on multiple fights....its a lifesaver in many fights. I usually swap this skill into my flex slot at least one fight if not more per vet DLC dungeon. Since I don't play nightblades I cant answer for any of those skills, but I hope you are closer to the mark there. Also, in PvP scales does NOT make you immune against all ranged attacks, there are plenty of non-projectile ranged attacks(crushing shock, lightning stave heavy attacks, radiant destruction, etc etc) Scale is one of the few things that makes playing a MDK in PvP viable...its one of the DK strengths, I dont think I would touch a MDK without it considering the increased costs for all the MDK skills compared to other classes.
The only instance I use wings in pve is for Thurvokun. That’s what I see from other tanks I play with as well, but I main tanks so I’ll admit my sample size of what the community at large is doing isn’t huge.
For the record OP has way more overgeneralizations that don’t do his points any favors, and for the most part I don’t agree with his complaints, but felt I should clarify this point as another person who does know a little something about pve
Chudan- a Tank with wings can solo this boss if the rest of the group dies(happens often in pugs)
Domihaus- If you arent using wings on this fight, you are significantly hurting group DPS
Thurvokun- But you knew this
That Stone-Atro raising boss in vBF-Keeping wings up this entire fight makes it so you take almost no damage unless you stand in the AoEs...I also track around the outside edge of the arena to keep the AoEs from cluttering up and making the DPS job harder
Stonecaller Peak-The giant boss, depending on how you tank this fight, wings is a godsend for all the incoming projectiles from the Nereids
If you arent slotting wings for these fights and a few others I cant remember offhand you are gimping yourself(and your group's damage) and relying way too much on your healer1