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Change to Master and Maelstrom as follows:

swirve
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Yes:

Slightly nerf Master and Maelstrom gear snd add it to the normal version loot table for end boss

Then add perfected versions to the vet and give an overall slight buff.

No:

Because change scares me.

Edited by swirve on May 7, 2018 6:56PM

Change to Master and Maelstrom as follows: 110 votes

Yes
30%
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No (because I dont like change)
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  • Ihatenightblades
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    No (because I dont like change)
    Maelstrom is already a cake walk just get better dude its not hard it’s actually really easy if you actually try.

  • grannas211
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    Only change I wanna see is giving the spell damage and Max Magicka back on the respective weapons.
  • swirve
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    Yes
    Maelstrom is already a cake walk just get better dude its not hard it’s actually really easy if you actually try.

    Strange reply given you know nothing about me, seems you have an issue which you wrapped in an adhom.
  • swirve
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    Yes
    grannas211 wrote: »
    Only change I wanna see is giving the spell damage and Max Magicka back on the respective weapons.

    That should be in a perfected version at the least.

    It follows the current logic...
  • TelvanniWizard
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    No (because I dont like change)
    Poll seems kinda biased...
  • emilyhyoyeon
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    the difference between maelstrom bow and any other bow is really extreme, so I would like this change
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  • swirve
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    Yes
    Poll seems kinda biased...

    Yes and no is biased?
  • kylewwefan
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    Yes
    With the 2H counting for 2 set pieces now, that Hundings Nirnhoned Bow is likely already gonna be nipping the heels of Maelstrom Bow. So I dont know how useful a weaker version of it will be.

    But, I’d be ok with getting the general population stronger. Or having more options and stuff.
  • NordSwordnBoard
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    No (because I dont like change)
    I am not afraid of change, but voted no because I don't like the suggested changes in particular.

    I'd be more interested in new content with new weapons - love to see a 2 player trial - something in between vMA and VDSA.

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  • TelvanniWizard
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    No (because I dont like change)
    Poll seems kinda biased...
    swirve wrote: »
    Poll seems kinda biased...

    Yes and no is biased?

    Adding "(because I don´t like change)" to "no" option yes, makes the poll a little biased, in my oppinion.
  • Houshiki
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    Honestly, the only maelstrom weapons worth slotting are the bow, and inferno/lightning staves, and even then only on the backbar. These weapons have already been nerfed recently with having the extra spl/wpn dmg removed, while in previous patches the unique effects were nerfed.

    The current effects of the 2h, and SnB maelstrom weapons simply aren't worth slotting over a second 5 piece. While the dw maelstrom build is difficult to maintain sustain due to the Morrowind changes. And with the coming to changes in Summerset, there'll be even less incentive to slot these weapons despite there difficulty to obtain.

    If anything, nerfing the maelstrom weapons further, then adding an even weaker version to the loot table is a poor design direction to take. Basically, the bow and staves are fine as is, but the rest need to get a look at.

    P.S. Yes and No (because I don't like change) ... yeah... not biased at all...
  • Taleof2Cities
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    I don’t vote in biased polls either ... but the answer is no.
  • Tyrobag
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    No (because I dont like change)
    Biased poll
  • swirve
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    Yes
    Tyrobag wrote: »
    Biased poll

    Biased opinion...
  • Tasear
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    This is a biased poll. The idea is nice but many people are questioning worth of them bow with changes to 2handers. Is effort worth the reward?

    And I honestly would be offended with dsa. Normal dsa is easier then most dungeons. vDSA though is quite the trial.
  • Kuramas9tails
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    No (because I dont like change)
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    • Aliyavana
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      No (because I dont like change)
      you want good weapons you work for them
    • Mic1007
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      I'm not really feeling yay or nay here, but doing this could bring back the removed bonuses from before.
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    • SmellyUnlimited
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      swirve wrote: »
      Tyrobag wrote: »
      Biased poll

      Biased opinion...

      You seem to be pushing some agenda here, which one could infer is that you are unable to complete the content that awards the weapons. To get a Master or Maelstrom weapon is an achievement; the proof that you can complete somewhat difficult content (for many players) and be justly rewarded for it. The normal versions are by order of magnitude exponentially easier, so to get a “slightly” better version on vet seems like a robbery.

      Lastly, yes, it’s a biased poll. I’m actually a little concerned that you don’t see that fact.
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    • swirve
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      Yes
      swirve wrote: »
      Tyrobag wrote: »
      Biased poll

      Biased opinion...

      You seem to be pushing some agenda here, which one could infer is that you are unable to complete the content that awards the weapons. To get a Master or Maelstrom weapon is an achievement; the proof that you can complete somewhat difficult content (for many players) and be justly rewarded for it. The normal versions are by order of magnitude exponentially easier, so to get a “slightly” better version on vet seems like a robbery.

      Lastly, yes, it’s a biased poll. I’m actually a little concerned that you don’t see that fact.

      You could infer many things to avoid discussion on the actual topic... or at least drag it out until you post something meaningful... oh wait still nothing.

      Im a little concerned you wrote so much and said so much with little value :)

      @SmellyUnlimited
    • Xuhora
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      As stated above: very very biased poll

      My Answer: No. These weapons should be there for the player that can clear the Vet content. With the Changes to 2H Weapons giving 2 Set-Boni, its allready a lending hand to those who cant/want to clear vMA or vDSA. Since the loss of the ability altering weapons can be compensated with 5/5/2.
    • Judas Helviaryn
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      No (because I dont like change)
      Wow. You want a poll to work, make sure it's A: Unbiased, and B: Non-Confrontational.
      Yes:

      Slightly nerf Master and Maelstrom gear snd add it to the normal version loot table for end boss

      Then add perfected versions to the vet and give an overall slight buff.

      No:

      Because change scares me
      .
      Strange reply given you know nothing about me, seems you have an issue which you wrapped in an adhom.
      Biased opinion...
      You could infer many things to avoid discussion on the actual topic... or at least drag it out until you post something meaningful... oh wait still nothing.

      Im a little concerned you wrote so much and said so much with little value :)

      You come across as really insecure and disingenuous.
      Edited by Judas Helviaryn on May 8, 2018 5:45AM
    • kargen27
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      Why?

      If you get the watered down version of the weapons you are still going to want to get the better version. And you should know by now ZoS doesn't do slight when it comes to a nerf.
      and then the parrot said, "must be the water mines green too."
    • swirve
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      Yes
      Wow. You want a poll to work, make sure it's A: Unbiased, and B: Non-Confrontational.
      Yes:

      Slightly nerf Master and Maelstrom gear snd add it to the normal version loot table for end boss

      Then add perfected versions to the vet and give an overall slight buff.

      No:

      Because change scares me
      .
      Strange reply given you know nothing about me, seems you have an issue which you wrapped in an adhom.
      Biased opinion...
      You could infer many things to avoid discussion on the actual topic... or at least drag it out until you post something meaningful... oh wait still nothing.

      Im a little concerned you wrote so much and said so much with little value :)

      You come across as really insecure and disingenuous.

      Projection much @Judas Helviaryn
    • Judas Helviaryn
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      No (because I dont like change)
      swirve wrote: »
      Wow. You want a poll to work, make sure it's A: Unbiased, and B: Non-Confrontational.
      Yes:

      Slightly nerf Master and Maelstrom gear snd add it to the normal version loot table for end boss

      Then add perfected versions to the vet and give an overall slight buff.

      No:

      Because change scares me
      .
      Strange reply given you know nothing about me, seems you have an issue which you wrapped in an adhom.
      Biased opinion...
      You could infer many things to avoid discussion on the actual topic... or at least drag it out until you post something meaningful... oh wait still nothing.

      Im a little concerned you wrote so much and said so much with little value :)

      You come across as really insecure and disingenuous.

      Projection much @Judas Helviaryn

      Nope! Just callin it as I sees it. =P
      (Just like everyone else.)
      Edited by Judas Helviaryn on May 8, 2018 6:08AM
    • swirve
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      Yes
      kargen27 wrote: »
      Why?

      If you get the watered down version of the weapons you are still going to want to get the better version. And you should know by now ZoS doesn't do slight when it comes to a nerf.

      You get watered down versions of the Asylum gear... those were farmed. Fact.
    • swirve
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      Yes
      swirve wrote: »
      Wow. You want a poll to work, make sure it's A: Unbiased, and B: Non-Confrontational.
      Yes:

      Slightly nerf Master and Maelstrom gear snd add it to the normal version loot table for end boss

      Then add perfected versions to the vet and give an overall slight buff.

      No:

      Because change scares me
      .
      Strange reply given you know nothing about me, seems you have an issue which you wrapped in an adhom.
      Biased opinion...
      You could infer many things to avoid discussion on the actual topic... or at least drag it out until you post something meaningful... oh wait still nothing.

      Im a little concerned you wrote so much and said so much with little value :)

      You come across as really insecure and disingenuous.

      Projection much @Judas Helviaryn

      Nope! Just callin it as I sees it. =P
      (Just like everyone else.)

      Shame you couldnt stay on subject and can you evidence everyone sees it that way, no... its ypur opinion... and that you feel everyone shares the same opinion as you speaks volumes... as does your inability to stay on the subject. Have a nice day :)
    • swirve
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      Yes
      Aliyavana wrote: »
      you want good weapons you work for them

      Perfected > non perfected.

      Vet > normal work.

      Which part do you not understand?

      @Aliyavana
    • Judas Helviaryn
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      No (because I dont like change)
      swirve wrote: »
      swirve wrote: »
      Wow. You want a poll to work, make sure it's A: Unbiased, and B: Non-Confrontational.
      Yes:

      Slightly nerf Master and Maelstrom gear snd add it to the normal version loot table for end boss

      Then add perfected versions to the vet and give an overall slight buff.

      No:

      Because change scares me
      .
      Strange reply given you know nothing about me, seems you have an issue which you wrapped in an adhom.
      Biased opinion...
      You could infer many things to avoid discussion on the actual topic... or at least drag it out until you post something meaningful... oh wait still nothing.

      Im a little concerned you wrote so much and said so much with little value :)

      You come across as really insecure and disingenuous.

      Projection much @Judas Helviaryn

      Nope! Just callin it as I sees it. =P
      (Just like everyone else.)

      Shame you couldnt stay on subject and can you evidence everyone sees it that way, no... its ypur opinion... and that you feel everyone shares the same opinion as you speaks volumes... as does your inability to stay on the subject. Have a nice day :)

      Oh, insulting people who vote against what you want on your own poll is staying on topic? And my opinion is powerful enough to influence others? Hmm.. Fat chance on the former, and I wish on the latter. No, sadly, you're just that transparent and socially gifted.

      It's also night here, but I will have a nice day tomorrow if that works for you!

      Oh, oh! If you could bring me lunch at work from the local Mexican restaurant down the way tomorrow, that'd definitely make my day nice! And maybe wash my car while you're at it, I've got salt from the last snow all over the bumpers and wheel wells.

      But if you'd just grow up and clean up your act, and act respectful to people on the forums, that might just be good enough for me tomorrow.
      Edited by Judas Helviaryn on May 8, 2018 6:21AM
    • swirve
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      Yes
      swirve wrote: »
      swirve wrote: »
      Wow. You want a poll to work, make sure it's A: Unbiased, and B: Non-Confrontational.
      Yes:

      Slightly nerf Master and Maelstrom gear snd add it to the normal version loot table for end boss

      Then add perfected versions to the vet and give an overall slight buff.

      No:

      Because change scares me
      .
      Strange reply given you know nothing about me, seems you have an issue which you wrapped in an adhom.
      Biased opinion...
      You could infer many things to avoid discussion on the actual topic... or at least drag it out until you post something meaningful... oh wait still nothing.

      Im a little concerned you wrote so much and said so much with little value :)

      You come across as really insecure and disingenuous.

      Projection much @Judas Helviaryn

      Nope! Just callin it as I sees it. =P
      (Just like everyone else.)

      Shame you couldnt stay on subject and can you evidence everyone sees it that way, no... its ypur opinion... and that you feel everyone shares the same opinion as you speaks volumes... as does your inability to stay on the subject. Have a nice day :)

      Oh, insulting people who vote against what you want on your own poll is staying on topic? And my opinion is powerful enough to influence others? Hmm.. Fat chance on the former, and I wish on the latter. No, sadly, you're just that transparent and socially gifted.

      It's also night here, but I will have a nice day tomorrow if that works for you!

      You might want to re-read the thread and see who is doing the insulting... mostly the vocal no's and the ones apparently incapable of discussingvthe subject without adhoms and unevidenced claims.

      "You come across as really insecure and disingenous". Adhom my friend, adhom...

      Enjoy :)
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