Is anyone else dreading Summerset release?

KingYogi415 · May 2018

Between Console and PC I have 21 max level characters.

For those 21 characters only THREE have max undaunted.

Out of those 21 around 10 are magic magic based. Out of those 10 only TWO have max mages guild.

Now when Summerset drops ALL of these characters will be missing ANOTHER VERY important skill/passive line. From what I read this is going to be a nightmare to level on console, just like mages guild.

Now I have to choose a main character/color on both platforms and grind this stupid skill line just to stay relevant is PVP.

Then i'm going to have to do it 5-10 more times over the next year just to play my alts in PVP.

RIP to my characters who won't make the cut.....

I wish I could just say RIP to this whole garbage expansion.

Cpt_Teemo · May 2018

I gave up buying stuff on ZoS atm, I went back to Lotro

Mannox · May 2018

I'm so unhappy with Summerset I got it refunded. I'm also canceling my sub. I'm not happy about it either. I really loved playing ESO but ZOS is making it clear they just want to tease me for my wallet. They want me to gamble and lose. I just got back from Vegas. I do like to gamble but I go to places that are designed for gambling. In an MMORPG I want to have particular gaming experience. One hopefully shared with other players. Gambling is not the experience I'm after and ZOS is making it clear that their focus is a F2P model of income. We are getting SO much less then we used to in ESO updates/DLCs. It's so stupid to think that cosmetics don't matter. They big time *** matter. Every time I login it's dangled in front of me. Every time they add something cool it's not to the game it's to the Crown Store. What a load of ***. I'm going to play FF14. Not just because it's a great game but because when they add content it's to the *** game. I can EARN it. They're model for making money there is to please the subscriber. I like that a LOT. That's how ESO should be. ESO+ Members should be the focus. Not the *** Crown Store.

So, no. Screw Summerset. There's a lot of other changes that *** me off too. Namely 2H PVE DPS and Jewelry Crafting grind but I'm ranty right now and don't want to start a list.

VaranisArano · May 2018

The Psijic Skill Line is mostly a giant scavenger hunt. It shouldn't be too bad if you unlock wayshrines all over the place, very similar to doing crafting surveys.

Rohamad_Ali · May 2018

I'm excited for Summerset and never shy away from more new content .

moses1763 · May 2018

I don't know about Summerset haven't played it yet as for not being able to get all of ur 'toons' thru it sorry I know ur pain but there is a cost to having so many of em.

I am looking forward to trying Summerset as for liking it well ask me in a cpl months...

vonScuzzman · May 2018

Looking forward to it.

Luckylancer · May 2018

I was angry about how utterly useless sets are. Now they buffed them so much, game became pay to win. I wont gonna have new skil line, i dont want to spend that much. How can i compete with others? They give away BGs that i paid and dont give a token in return, a nice costume would be good.

GrumpyDuckling · May 2018

KingYogi415 wrote: »

Between Console and PC I have 21 max level characters.

For those 21 characters only THREE have max undaunted.

Out of those 21 around 10 are magic magic based. Out of those 10 only TWO have max mages guild.

Now when Summerset drops ALL of these characters will be missing ANOTHER VERY important skill/passive line. From what I read this is going to be a nightmare to level on console, just like mages guild.

Now I have to choose a main character/color on both platforms and grind this stupid skill line just to stay relevant is PVP.

Then i'm going to have to do it 5-10 more times over the next year just to play my alts in PVP.

RIP to my characters who won't make the cut.....

I wish I could just say RIP to this whole garbage expansion.

You don't "have to" raise Psijic skill line in order to play your alts in PVP. There's no barrier that blocks you out of PVP for having an incomplete skill line.

imnotanother · May 2018

KingYogi415 wrote: »

Between Console and PC I have 21 max level characters.

For those 21 characters only THREE have max undaunted.

Out of those 21 around 10 are magic magic based. Out of those 10 only TWO have max mages guild.

Now when Summerset drops ALL of these characters will be missing ANOTHER VERY important skill/passive line. From what I read this is going to be a nightmare to level on console, just like mages guild.

Now I have to choose a main character/color on both platforms and grind this stupid skill line just to stay relevant is PVP.

Then i'm going to have to do it 5-10 more times over the next year just to play my alts in PVP.

RIP to my characters who won't make the cut.....

I wish I could just say RIP to this whole garbage expansion.

Mages guild is a nightmare to level?
The books glow from a mile away. They are literally on the pathways between quest markers.
Might take more than an hour to get them but not hard at all.

I hate these threads.

KingYogi415 · May 2018

imnotanother wrote: »

KingYogi415 wrote: »

Between Console and PC I have 21 max level characters.

For those 21 characters only THREE have max undaunted.

Out of those 21 around 10 are magic magic based. Out of those 10 only TWO have max mages guild.

Now when Summerset drops ALL of these characters will be missing ANOTHER VERY important skill/passive line. From what I read this is going to be a nightmare to level on console, just like mages guild.

Now I have to choose a main character/color on both platforms and grind this stupid skill line just to stay relevant is PVP.

Then i'm going to have to do it 5-10 more times over the next year just to play my alts in PVP.

RIP to my characters who won't make the cut.....

I wish I could just say RIP to this whole garbage expansion.

Mages guild is a nightmare to level?
The books glow from a mile away. They are literally on the pathways between quest markers.
Might take more than an hour to get them but not hard at all.

I hate these threads.

More then an hour?

It take 4-6 hours on PC with add-ons showing you right where they are.

It takes 8-10hours on PS4.

I hate when people lie about the difficulty of things to stroke their own ego.

I have gotten emperor in a couple hours. That means its easy and anyone should be able to do it? yah!

jedtb16_ESO · May 2018

Is anyone else dreading Summerset release?

idk about anyone else but i'm looking forward to it.

to all the nay sayers..... you don't have to do it.

KingYogi415 · May 2018

@GrumpyDuckling

"4. Concentrated Barrier
While you have a Psijic Order ability slotted and are Blocking, you gain a damage shield that absorbs 5000 damage. This damage shield recharges back to full strength after you spend 10 seconds not Blocking."

Does this look optional to you? not to mention the actual skills...

GrumpyDuckling · May 2018

KingYogi415 wrote: »

You don't "have to" raise Psijic skill line in order to play your alts in PVP. There's no barrier that blocks you out of PVP for having an incomplete skill line.

"4. Concentrated Barrier
While you have a Psijic Order ability slotted and are Blocking, you gain a damage shield that absorbs 5000 damage. This damage shield recharges back to full strength after you spend 10 seconds not Blocking."

Does this look optional to you? not to mention the actual skills...

Yes, it's optional. You don't "have to" use it, and you aren't blocked out of PVP if you don't have it.

Gythral · May 2018

If all your characters have most wayshrines unlocked, then it's just going to be porting around and a few follow the lights,
it only takes several hours on a character with no wayshrines, but a means to get to each zone (houses, guild mates etc) if you have some knowledge of the zones.

It's not so much a grind as a bore!

Undaunted or Mage Guild it is not!

dodgehopper_ESO · May 2018

Yogi, Undaunted isn't that hard to level. You're certainly strong enough to join a team of competent (read: Not superior) players and ring up a bunch of achievements per pledge. I agree with you though that I find Undaunted more annoying to level than Alliance War skill lines nowadays, but I'm biased towards PvP. The last couple of events have burned me out though so I have mostly just logged in and screwed about with solo junk working on skill points, skill lines, or crafting. I'm saving my energy until Summerset comes out because frankly that month of Event time really sucked the joy of the game out of me. This is why I don't understand why game developers have events. Events take something fun and make it not fun and I don't pay them to feel like I'm employed by them.

imnotanother · May 2018

KingYogi415 wrote: »

imnotanother wrote: »

KingYogi415 wrote: »

Between Console and PC I have 21 max level characters.

For those 21 characters only THREE have max undaunted.

Out of those 21 around 10 are magic magic based. Out of those 10 only TWO have max mages guild.

Now when Summerset drops ALL of these characters will be missing ANOTHER VERY important skill/passive line. From what I read this is going to be a nightmare to level on console, just like mages guild.

Now I have to choose a main character/color on both platforms and grind this stupid skill line just to stay relevant is PVP.

Then i'm going to have to do it 5-10 more times over the next year just to play my alts in PVP.

RIP to my characters who won't make the cut.....

I wish I could just say RIP to this whole garbage expansion.

Mages guild is a nightmare to level?
The books glow from a mile away. They are literally on the pathways between quest markers.
Might take more than an hour to get them but not hard at all.

I hate these threads.

More then an hour?

It take 4-6 hours on PC with add-ons showing you right where they are.

It takes 8-10hours on PS4.

I hate when people lie about the difficulty of things to stroke their own ego.

I have gotten emperor in a couple hours. That means its easy and anyone should be able to do it? yah!

I said it takes more than an hour. I did not say a single hour.
8-10 hours to max out a skill line, sounds tough ::rolls eyes::

I hate when people exaggerate the truth because their ego is not being stroked.

Mureel · May 2018

moses1763 wrote: »

I don't know about Summerset haven't played it yet as for not being able to get all of ur 'toons' thru it sorry I know ur pain but there is a cost to having so many of em.

I am looking forward to trying Summerset as for liking it well ask me in a cpl months...

and I always wonder who needs SO MANY DAMN CHARS anyway. xD

Jhalin · May 2018

Mureel wrote: »

moses1763 wrote: »

I don't know about Summerset haven't played it yet as for not being able to get all of ur 'toons' thru it sorry I know ur pain but there is a cost to having so many of em.

I am looking forward to trying Summerset as for liking it well ask me in a cpl months...

and I always wonder who needs SO MANY DAMN CHARS anyway. xD

Variety is the spice of life

And once you’ve done every quest in the game and most dungeons/trials/achieves etc. it gets really boring to stick to one toon.

Mureel · May 2018

Jhalin wrote: »

Mureel wrote: »

moses1763 wrote: »

I don't know about Summerset haven't played it yet as for not being able to get all of ur 'toons' thru it sorry I know ur pain but there is a cost to having so many of em.

I am looking forward to trying Summerset as for liking it well ask me in a cpl months...

and I always wonder who needs SO MANY DAMN CHARS anyway. xD

Variety is the spice of life

And once you’ve done every quest in the game and most dungeons/trials/achieves etc. it gets really boring to stick to one toon.

I find 8 MORE THAN sufficient for that - but to each his/her own.

Played since beta - done all that stuff (except VAS+2) and I just don't need so many.

Hurbster · May 2018

I'm looking forward to it.

Lynx7386 · May 2018

KingYogi415 wrote: »

Between Console and PC I have 21 max level characters.

For those 21 characters only THREE have max undaunted.

Out of those 21 around 10 are magic magic based. Out of those 10 only TWO have max mages guild.

Now when Summerset drops ALL of these characters will be missing ANOTHER VERY important skill/passive line. From what I read this is going to be a nightmare to level on console, just like mages guild.

Now I have to choose a main character/color on both platforms and grind this stupid skill line just to stay relevant is PVP.

Then i'm going to have to do it 5-10 more times over the next year just to play my alts in PVP.

RIP to my characters who won't make the cut.....

I wish I could just say RIP to this whole garbage expansion.

I just recently leveled a new character to 50.

It took me a week of daily pledges (only logging onto that character to do a couple dungeon runs a day) to get to like rank 7 or 8, and not much longer to max out.

People claiming the undaunted grind is bad just need to get their *** together and do pledges. It isnt difficult, and it doesnt take long.

Integral1900 · May 2018

The new skill line is easy to level... it’s just soooooo dullllll. It’s like being back in wow, go here, click button, repeat...

Stovahkiin · May 2018

Sounds like a bunch of over-exaggeration to me. Looking forward to the expansion myself. We had this same kind of doomsaying before Morrowind’s release, and most of that ended up being false once the expansion actually released.

Recremen · May 2018

I'm not dreading it, I am in fact overall looking forward to it, but there are definitely a handful of things I'm not excited for.

Bhaal5 · May 2018

For me the excitement is dwindling quick.

Looks like the repeatable quests are just recycled/skinned content from the core game.
Grind fest for jewelry crafting, werent they going to add jewelry crafting back when craglorn flopped, oh i meant dropped?

Im sick of no actual new content been developed, atleast with morrowind they attempted some new content with battlegrounds. But lets say they went full "passion fingers" there, atleast there was a token effort.

Same old boring quest line, same old grind.
Wheres the pvp content?
Where the ui improvements?
Where the social content?
Where the overland improvements?
I dont see any of it here with summerset :'( :'( :'(

Silver_Strider · May 2018

I've leveled 11 characters thus far
Got Undaunted and Mages Guild capped on 10 of them
Alliance War 30 on 1, 20 on another and the rest fall in at 8-14.

Got a full time job and have a dog to take care of.

YOU'RE SLACKING IF ONLY 3 CHARACTERS ARE CAPPED WITH UNDAUNTED!!!!!!!!!

notimetocare · May 2018

Cpt_Teemo wrote: »

I gave up buying stuff on ZoS atm, I went back to Lotro

Then y u still here?

Kiralyn2000 · May 2018

Luckily, while I'm an alt-o-holic, I'm not a min-maxer/completionist.

So I don't feel the need to get all the best on all my alts. So, no. Summerset is some new content that I'll run some character through, not a chore I need to repeat on every one of them.

TheNuminous1 · May 2018

Silver_Strider wrote: »

YOU'RE SLACKING IF ONLY 3 CHARACTERS ARE CAPPED WITH UNDAUNTED!!!!!!!!!

No all yogi does is pvp so he is mad he has to do more pve stuff to get skills and passives he deems needed for pvp. Ive seen that before with pvpers mad that they have to do anything pve related. look at the golden vendor. just so they dont have to do dungeons.

Bhaal5 · May 2018

TheNuminous1 wrote: »

Silver_Strider wrote: »

YOU'RE SLACKING IF ONLY 3 CHARACTERS ARE CAPPED WITH UNDAUNTED!!!!!!!!!

No all yogi does is pvp so he is mad he has to do more pve stuff to get skills and passives he deems needed for pvp. Ive seen that before with pvpers mad that they have to do anything pve related. look at the golden vendor. just so they dont have to do dungeons.

Tbh, i dont blame pvper been mad. Pvp was a major selling point of this game and all they have done is buried into the ground. Patch after patch, only a small percentage goes towards pvp.
When you look at the chapters and the dlc. There is only 1 pve, imperial city, that is for pvp and morrowind that implemented battlegrounds. Thats its compared to pve that has
Wrothgar,
thieves guild,
dark brotherhood,
shadows of the hist,
craglorn (yes the first free installment back in the forced sub days),
Horns of the reach
dragon bones,
Morrowind was majority pve

Not going to include homestead because atleast with homestead the moved away from the 2 dungeon dlc model (which that model is more stale than that 6 year old forgotten about cake in the back of the cupboard.)