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Crown Crates from free ESO Plus weekend
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maroite✭✭✭PelinalWhitestrake wrote: »
So you can properly prepare yourself to be disappointed by the crates.which makes no sense since every other time it was immediately after the event ended, so why the 2 week delay now?
do they need time to lower the drop rate even more so as to make sure no one gets anything of worth with the FREE crates
This is what's wrong with the world.
People get something for free, then complain about how that free stuff wasn't good or didn't have something they wanted.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
What is so surprising with this?- To get a gift which is not worth it, is just like an insult.
Seriously? lol I guess I was always taught that its the thought that matters. Who's the one considering the worth? The receiver or the giver?
I'd hate to be your friend... I pity those who don't give something up to your standards/expectations... hahahaPelinalWhitestrake wrote: »
You think that is what's wrong with the world?PelinalWhitestrake wrote: »
So you can properly prepare yourself to be disappointed by the crates.which makes no sense since every other time it was immediately after the event ended, so why the 2 week delay now?
do they need time to lower the drop rate even more so as to make sure no one gets anything of worth with the FREE crates
This is what's wrong with the world.
People get something for free, then complain about how that free stuff wasn't good or didn't have something they wanted.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
You're right, it's only a minuscule portion of what's wrong with this world... Sad.
Well, I don't expect to get gifts in the first place - but if, I do not want to be insulted by a bad one.
If you truly don't expect them, then the surprise of receiving one should be more than satisfactory, not the quality of the gift. It's not as if Zenimax is sending you a bag of dung in your mailbox.
There is truly nothing negative about free crates. If you could explain how they are negative then please do so, otherwise I'll just agree to disagree.0 -
DieAlteHexe✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭hjkhkjlhlhköhklPelinalWhitestrake wrote: »
So you can properly prepare yourself to be disappointed by the crates.which makes no sense since every other time it was immediately after the event ended, so why the 2 week delay now?
do they need time to lower the drop rate even more so as to make sure no one gets anything of worth with the FREE crates
This is what's wrong with the world.
People get something for free, then complain about how that free stuff wasn't good or didn't have something they wanted.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
What is so surprising with this?- To get a gift which is not worth it, is just like an insult.
Seriously? lol I guess I was always taught that its the thought that matters. Who's the one considering the worth? The receiver or the giver?
I'd hate to be your friend... I pity those who don't give something up to your standards/expectations... hahahaPelinalWhitestrake wrote: »
You think that is what's wrong with the world?PelinalWhitestrake wrote: »
So you can properly prepare yourself to be disappointed by the crates.which makes no sense since every other time it was immediately after the event ended, so why the 2 week delay now?
do they need time to lower the drop rate even more so as to make sure no one gets anything of worth with the FREE crates
This is what's wrong with the world.
People get something for free, then complain about how that free stuff wasn't good or didn't have something they wanted.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
You're right, it's only a minuscule portion of what's wrong with this world... Sad.
Well, I don't expect to get gifts in the first place - but if, I do not want to be insulted by a bad one.
This absolutely amazes me. Utterly.
Dirty, filthy casual aka Nancy, the Wallet Warrior Carebear Potato Whale Snowflake4 -
Lysette✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭PelinalWhitestrake wrote: »
So you can properly prepare yourself to be disappointed by the crates.which makes no sense since every other time it was immediately after the event ended, so why the 2 week delay now?
do they need time to lower the drop rate even more so as to make sure no one gets anything of worth with the FREE crates
This is what's wrong with the world.
People get something for free, then complain about how that free stuff wasn't good or didn't have something they wanted.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
What is so surprising with this?- To get a gift which is not worth it, is just like an insult.
Seriously? lol I guess I was always taught that its the thought that matters. Who's the one considering the worth? The receiver or the giver?
I'd hate to be your friend... I pity those who don't give something up to your standards/expectations... hahahaPelinalWhitestrake wrote: »
You think that is what's wrong with the world?PelinalWhitestrake wrote: »
So you can properly prepare yourself to be disappointed by the crates.which makes no sense since every other time it was immediately after the event ended, so why the 2 week delay now?
do they need time to lower the drop rate even more so as to make sure no one gets anything of worth with the FREE crates
This is what's wrong with the world.
People get something for free, then complain about how that free stuff wasn't good or didn't have something they wanted.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
You're right, it's only a minuscule portion of what's wrong with this world... Sad.
Well, I don't expect to get gifts in the first place - but if, I do not want to be insulted by a bad one.
If you truly don't expect them, then the surprise of receiving one should be more than satisfactory, not the quality of the gift. It's not as if Zenimax is sending you a bag of dung in your mailbox.
There is truly nothing negative about free crates. If you could explain how they are negative then please do so, otherwise I'll just agree to disagree.
I wasn't referring to these crates nor evaluated them - but to the comment in a whole, that this would be a strange thing, to complain about a bad gift. To me it is an insult to get something, which I did not request, which takes away from my time and is then on top of it not worth it. I rather do not want to be bothered then with this "gift", because it is just annoying me.
Edit: Ah, you wanted to know why those crates could be a bad thing - well, they are bait, ZOS wants to bait you into buying more of them, by showing you those crates and eventually get you into buying them - and with some luck for them, you might get addicted. That is the BAD!Edited by Lysette on May 2, 2018 2:07PM2 -
Istoppucks✭✭✭✭PelinalWhitestrake wrote: »
So you can properly prepare yourself to be disappointed by the crates.which makes no sense since every other time it was immediately after the event ended, so why the 2 week delay now?
do they need time to lower the drop rate even more so as to make sure no one gets anything of worth with the FREE crates
This is what's wrong with the world.
People get something for free, then complain about how that free stuff wasn't good or didn't have something they wanted.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
What is so surprising with this?- To get a gift which is not worth it, is just like an insult.
Seriously? lol I guess I was always taught that its the thought that matters. Who's the one considering the worth? The receiver or the giver?
I'd hate to be your friend... I pity those who don't give something up to your standards/expectations... hahahaPelinalWhitestrake wrote: »
You think that is what's wrong with the world?PelinalWhitestrake wrote: »
So you can properly prepare yourself to be disappointed by the crates.which makes no sense since every other time it was immediately after the event ended, so why the 2 week delay now?
do they need time to lower the drop rate even more so as to make sure no one gets anything of worth with the FREE crates
This is what's wrong with the world.
People get something for free, then complain about how that free stuff wasn't good or didn't have something they wanted.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
You're right, it's only a minuscule portion of what's wrong with this world... Sad.
Well, I don't expect to get gifts in the first place - but if, I do not want to be insulted by a bad one.
If you truly don't expect them, then the surprise of receiving one should be more than satisfactory, not the quality of the gift. It's not as if Zenimax is sending you a bag of dung in your mailbox.
There is truly nothing negative about free crates. If you could explain how they are negative then please do so, otherwise I'll just agree to disagree.
There is nothing wrong with FREE crates. Some people just need attention and want upvotes so they complain about everything. Or they just cant be happy in life and will find something negative in everything.4 -
Aebaradath✭✭✭✭✭
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Calm down, Dr. Phil.Istoppucks wrote: »PelinalWhitestrake wrote: »
So you can properly prepare yourself to be disappointed by the crates.which makes no sense since every other time it was immediately after the event ended, so why the 2 week delay now?
do they need time to lower the drop rate even more so as to make sure no one gets anything of worth with the FREE crates
This is what's wrong with the world.
People get something for free, then complain about how that free stuff wasn't good or didn't have something they wanted.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
What is so surprising with this?- To get a gift which is not worth it, is just like an insult.
Seriously? lol I guess I was always taught that its the thought that matters. Who's the one considering the worth? The receiver or the giver?
I'd hate to be your friend... I pity those who don't give something up to your standards/expectations... hahahaPelinalWhitestrake wrote: »
You think that is what's wrong with the world?PelinalWhitestrake wrote: »
So you can properly prepare yourself to be disappointed by the crates.which makes no sense since every other time it was immediately after the event ended, so why the 2 week delay now?
do they need time to lower the drop rate even more so as to make sure no one gets anything of worth with the FREE crates
This is what's wrong with the world.
People get something for free, then complain about how that free stuff wasn't good or didn't have something they wanted.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
You're right, it's only a minuscule portion of what's wrong with this world... Sad.
Well, I don't expect to get gifts in the first place - but if, I do not want to be insulted by a bad one.
If you truly don't expect them, then the surprise of receiving one should be more than satisfactory, not the quality of the gift. It's not as if Zenimax is sending you a bag of dung in your mailbox.
There is truly nothing negative about free crates. If you could explain how they are negative then please do so, otherwise I'll just agree to disagree.
There is nothing wrong with FREE crates. Some people just need attention and want upvotes so they complain about everything. Or they just cant be happy in life and will find something negative in everything.Edited by Aebaradath on May 2, 2018 2:15PM4 -
Delpi✭✭✭✭✭@ZOS_GinaBruno Is the date correct? 16th may?"I used to be an adventurer like you. Then I took an arrow in the knee..."0 -
Lysette✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Istoppucks wrote: »PelinalWhitestrake wrote: »
So you can properly prepare yourself to be disappointed by the crates.which makes no sense since every other time it was immediately after the event ended, so why the 2 week delay now?
do they need time to lower the drop rate even more so as to make sure no one gets anything of worth with the FREE crates
This is what's wrong with the world.
People get something for free, then complain about how that free stuff wasn't good or didn't have something they wanted.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
What is so surprising with this?- To get a gift which is not worth it, is just like an insult.
Seriously? lol I guess I was always taught that its the thought that matters. Who's the one considering the worth? The receiver or the giver?
I'd hate to be your friend... I pity those who don't give something up to your standards/expectations... hahahaPelinalWhitestrake wrote: »
You think that is what's wrong with the world?PelinalWhitestrake wrote: »
So you can properly prepare yourself to be disappointed by the crates.which makes no sense since every other time it was immediately after the event ended, so why the 2 week delay now?
do they need time to lower the drop rate even more so as to make sure no one gets anything of worth with the FREE crates
This is what's wrong with the world.
People get something for free, then complain about how that free stuff wasn't good or didn't have something they wanted.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
You're right, it's only a minuscule portion of what's wrong with this world... Sad.
Well, I don't expect to get gifts in the first place - but if, I do not want to be insulted by a bad one.
If you truly don't expect them, then the surprise of receiving one should be more than satisfactory, not the quality of the gift. It's not as if Zenimax is sending you a bag of dung in your mailbox.
There is truly nothing negative about free crates. If you could explain how they are negative then please do so, otherwise I'll just agree to disagree.
There is nothing wrong with FREE crates. Some people just need attention and want upvotes so they complain about everything. Or they just cant be happy in life and will find something negative in everything.
Well, I explained above why it could be a bad thing for a person, who is likely to get addicted to RNG-based stuff. In the end ZOS is giving crates to promote these crates and wants you to eventually buy some more - if they would really care, they could gift you something directly, which is not RNG based and what you don't have already - but they don't, it's not a gift, it's business.3 -
DieAlteHexe✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭@ZOS_GinaBruno Is the date correct? 16th may?
In one of the other threads on this subject, someone from ZoS (forgot the name, I'm sorry) said to note the words used, "by May 16th" as opposed to "on May 16th".
FWIW.
Dirty, filthy casual aka Nancy, the Wallet Warrior Carebear Potato Whale Snowflake2 -
heaven13✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭I look at free crates as a blessing. I'm not interested in them and definitely won't spend real money for a chance to get something I want. Free crates just reinforce the fact that the odds are very low for higher-tiered stuff (last ESO+ event, none of my free crates had anything at all above blue) so I don't feel like I'm missing out not purchasing any. And then I can get gems from all the crappy consumables I do get.PC/NAMountain God | Leave No Bone Unbroken | Apex Predator | Pure Lunacy | Depths Defier | No Rest for the Wicked | In Defiance of DeathMeet my characters :
Defanged the Devourer | Nature's Wrath | Relentless Raider | True Genius | Bane of Thorns | Subterranean Smasher | Ardent Bibliophile
vAA HM | vHRC HM | vSO HM | vDSA | vMoL HM | vHoF HM | vAS+2 | vCR+2 | vBRP | vSS HM | vKA | vRGIT DOESN'T MATTER BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL THE SAME NOW, THANKS ZOS0 -
Istoppucks✭✭✭✭Istoppucks wrote: »PelinalWhitestrake wrote: »
So you can properly prepare yourself to be disappointed by the crates.which makes no sense since every other time it was immediately after the event ended, so why the 2 week delay now?
do they need time to lower the drop rate even more so as to make sure no one gets anything of worth with the FREE crates
This is what's wrong with the world.
People get something for free, then complain about how that free stuff wasn't good or didn't have something they wanted.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
What is so surprising with this?- To get a gift which is not worth it, is just like an insult.
Seriously? lol I guess I was always taught that its the thought that matters. Who's the one considering the worth? The receiver or the giver?
I'd hate to be your friend... I pity those who don't give something up to your standards/expectations... hahahaPelinalWhitestrake wrote: »
You think that is what's wrong with the world?PelinalWhitestrake wrote: »
So you can properly prepare yourself to be disappointed by the crates.which makes no sense since every other time it was immediately after the event ended, so why the 2 week delay now?
do they need time to lower the drop rate even more so as to make sure no one gets anything of worth with the FREE crates
This is what's wrong with the world.
People get something for free, then complain about how that free stuff wasn't good or didn't have something they wanted.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
You're right, it's only a minuscule portion of what's wrong with this world... Sad.
Well, I don't expect to get gifts in the first place - but if, I do not want to be insulted by a bad one.
If you truly don't expect them, then the surprise of receiving one should be more than satisfactory, not the quality of the gift. It's not as if Zenimax is sending you a bag of dung in your mailbox.
There is truly nothing negative about free crates. If you could explain how they are negative then please do so, otherwise I'll just agree to disagree.
There is nothing wrong with FREE crates. Some people just need attention and want upvotes so they complain about everything. Or they just cant be happy in life and will find something negative in everything.
Well, I explained above why it could be a bad thing for a person, who is likely to get addicted to RNG-based stuff. In the end ZOS is giving crates to promote these crates and wants you to eventually buy some more - if they would really care, they could gift you something directly, which is not RNG based and what you don't have already - but they don't, it's not a gift, it's business.
Like i said some people are just desperate to complain and be negative.3 -
jedtb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Istoppucks wrote: »Istoppucks wrote: »PelinalWhitestrake wrote: »
So you can properly prepare yourself to be disappointed by the crates.which makes no sense since every other time it was immediately after the event ended, so why the 2 week delay now?
do they need time to lower the drop rate even more so as to make sure no one gets anything of worth with the FREE crates
This is what's wrong with the world.
People get something for free, then complain about how that free stuff wasn't good or didn't have something they wanted.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
What is so surprising with this?- To get a gift which is not worth it, is just like an insult.
Seriously? lol I guess I was always taught that its the thought that matters. Who's the one considering the worth? The receiver or the giver?
I'd hate to be your friend... I pity those who don't give something up to your standards/expectations... hahahaPelinalWhitestrake wrote: »
You think that is what's wrong with the world?PelinalWhitestrake wrote: »
So you can properly prepare yourself to be disappointed by the crates.which makes no sense since every other time it was immediately after the event ended, so why the 2 week delay now?
do they need time to lower the drop rate even more so as to make sure no one gets anything of worth with the FREE crates
This is what's wrong with the world.
People get something for free, then complain about how that free stuff wasn't good or didn't have something they wanted.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
You're right, it's only a minuscule portion of what's wrong with this world... Sad.
Well, I don't expect to get gifts in the first place - but if, I do not want to be insulted by a bad one.
If you truly don't expect them, then the surprise of receiving one should be more than satisfactory, not the quality of the gift. It's not as if Zenimax is sending you a bag of dung in your mailbox.
There is truly nothing negative about free crates. If you could explain how they are negative then please do so, otherwise I'll just agree to disagree.
There is nothing wrong with FREE crates. Some people just need attention and want upvotes so they complain about everything. Or they just cant be happy in life and will find something negative in everything.
Well, I explained above why it could be a bad thing for a person, who is likely to get addicted to RNG-based stuff. In the end ZOS is giving crates to promote these crates and wants you to eventually buy some more - if they would really care, they could gift you something directly, which is not RNG based and what you don't have already - but they don't, it's not a gift, it's business.
Like i said some people are just desperate to complain and be negative.
true, true..... but such is the nature of game forums.4 -
Lysette✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I look at free crates as a blessing. I'm not interested in them and definitely won't spend real money for a chance to get something I want. Free crates just reinforce the fact that the odds are very low for higher-tiered stuff (last ESO+ event, none of my free crates had anything at all above blue) so I don't feel like I'm missing out not purchasing any. And then I can get gems from all the crappy consumables I do get.
Yes, the personal chance is low - but you have to see it in a whole. Some people will get lucky and those are then likely to buy some more, because they think, this is always this way, just because they got lucky. And this way some will always be baited into buying them later on, just because among the many are always some lucky guys - that is why they give out RNG-boxes. This is not a gift in the first place, but a marketing instrument to get their crates promoted successfully - not a gift at all.2 -
heaven13✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭I look at free crates as a blessing. I'm not interested in them and definitely won't spend real money for a chance to get something I want. Free crates just reinforce the fact that the odds are very low for higher-tiered stuff (last ESO+ event, none of my free crates had anything at all above blue) so I don't feel like I'm missing out not purchasing any. And then I can get gems from all the crappy consumables I do get.
Yes, the personal chance is low - but you have to see it in a whole. Some people will get lucky and those are then likely to buy some more, because they think, this is always this way, just because they got lucky. And this way some will always be baited into buying them later on, just because among the many are always some lucky guys - that is why they give out RNG-boxes. This is not a gift in the first place, but a marketing instrument to get their crates promoted successfully - not a gift at all.
True. It's a free sample. Just like all free samples, it's provided as a way to entice people to buy the product. It's a tried and true marketing tactic, from make-up samples you get at the mall to food samples in grocery stores.
I don't like crates and wish they would do away with the practice. Regardless of my personal feelings, I do not believe ZOS has nefarious schemes at play when they give away free crates. They're marketing a product that they hope more people will buy into. Sure, it's a blegh product, imo, because it's too heavily RNG-based and not consumer friendly, but the sample of crates in and of itself is just ZOS trying to market to a wider audience.
EDIT: If you're completely against crates and absolutely despise even the free ones, you can not open those and let them sit on your account. They don't take up space and that way you don't have to participate at all (I know there are some people that do just this)Edited by heaven13 on May 2, 2018 2:35PMPC/NAMountain God | Leave No Bone Unbroken | Apex Predator | Pure Lunacy | Depths Defier | No Rest for the Wicked | In Defiance of DeathMeet my characters :
Defanged the Devourer | Nature's Wrath | Relentless Raider | True Genius | Bane of Thorns | Subterranean Smasher | Ardent Bibliophile
vAA HM | vHRC HM | vSO HM | vDSA | vMoL HM | vHoF HM | vAS+2 | vCR+2 | vBRP | vSS HM | vKA | vRGIT DOESN'T MATTER BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL THE SAME NOW, THANKS ZOS1 -
Slyjinxy✭✭✭The crates are out, if no one mentioned this yet. They always release them when maintenance is done. If it matters I'm PS4 NA.0
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JKorr✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭PelinalWhitestrake wrote: »
So you can properly prepare yourself to be disappointed by the crates.which makes no sense since every other time it was immediately after the event ended, so why the 2 week delay now?
do they need time to lower the drop rate even more so as to make sure no one gets anything of worth with the FREE crates
This is what's wrong with the world.
People get something for free, then complain about how that free stuff wasn't good or didn't have something they wanted.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
What is so surprising with this?- To get a gift which is not worth it, is just like an insult.
Seriously? lol I guess I was always taught that its the thought that matters. Who's the one considering the worth? The receiver or the giver?
I'd hate to be your friend... I pity those who don't give something up to your standards/expectations... hahahaPelinalWhitestrake wrote: »
You think that is what's wrong with the world?PelinalWhitestrake wrote: »
So you can properly prepare yourself to be disappointed by the crates.which makes no sense since every other time it was immediately after the event ended, so why the 2 week delay now?
do they need time to lower the drop rate even more so as to make sure no one gets anything of worth with the FREE crates
This is what's wrong with the world.
People get something for free, then complain about how that free stuff wasn't good or didn't have something they wanted.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
You're right, it's only a minuscule portion of what's wrong with this world... Sad.
Well, I don't expect to get gifts in the first place - but if, I do not want to be insulted by a bad one.
If you truly don't expect them, then the surprise of receiving one should be more than satisfactory, not the quality of the gift. It's not as if Zenimax is sending you a bag of dung in your mailbox.
There is truly nothing negative about free crates. If you could explain how they are negative then please do so, otherwise I'll just agree to disagree.
My personal issue with the free crates; you get stuff you don't want, don't like, can't trade back, and can't get rid of in your collectibles.
Consumables can be traded back. But that hat you can't stand, the eyepiece, tiara, frills, horns, jaw blades, ridiculous hairstyle you would never choose to buy or use is now bound to your account.
EDIT: I need to clarify this; this is an issue I have with the rng crown crates period. And why I never buy them. If I like an item, I'd like to be able to buy that specific item. Not add a dozen random things that I don't like and didn't want in the first place.Edited by JKorr on May 2, 2018 3:20PM4 -
DaveMoeDee✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I look at free crates as a blessing. I'm not interested in them and definitely won't spend real money for a chance to get something I want. Free crates just reinforce the fact that the odds are very low for higher-tiered stuff (last ESO+ event, none of my free crates had anything at all above blue) so I don't feel like I'm missing out not purchasing any. And then I can get gems from all the crappy consumables I do get.
Yes, the personal chance is low - but you have to see it in a whole. Some people will get lucky and those are then likely to buy some more, because they think, this is always this way, just because they got lucky. And this way some will always be baited into buying them later on, just because among the many are always some lucky guys - that is why they give out RNG-boxes. This is not a gift in the first place, but a marketing instrument to get their crates promoted successfully - not a gift at all.
True. It's a free sample. Just like all free samples, it's provided as a way to entice people to buy the product. It's a tried and true marketing tactic, from make-up samples you get at the mall to food samples in grocery stores.
I don't like crates and wish they would do away with the practice. Regardless of my personal feelings, I do not believe ZOS has nefarious schemes at play when they give away free crates. They're marketing a product that they hope more people will buy into. Sure, it's a blegh product, imo, because it's too heavily RNG-based and not consumer friendly, but the sample of crates in and of itself is just ZOS trying to market to a wider audience.
EDIT: If you're completely against crates and absolutely despise even the free ones, you can not open those and let them sit on your account. They don't take up space and that way you don't have to participate at all (I know there are some people that do just this)
These particular crates are not primarily meant as marketing. They are primarily meant to make people with subs not feel left out during free ESO+ weekends. Marketing is secondary.0 -
heaven13✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭DaveMoeDee wrote: »I look at free crates as a blessing. I'm not interested in them and definitely won't spend real money for a chance to get something I want. Free crates just reinforce the fact that the odds are very low for higher-tiered stuff (last ESO+ event, none of my free crates had anything at all above blue) so I don't feel like I'm missing out not purchasing any. And then I can get gems from all the crappy consumables I do get.
Yes, the personal chance is low - but you have to see it in a whole. Some people will get lucky and those are then likely to buy some more, because they think, this is always this way, just because they got lucky. And this way some will always be baited into buying them later on, just because among the many are always some lucky guys - that is why they give out RNG-boxes. This is not a gift in the first place, but a marketing instrument to get their crates promoted successfully - not a gift at all.
True. It's a free sample. Just like all free samples, it's provided as a way to entice people to buy the product. It's a tried and true marketing tactic, from make-up samples you get at the mall to food samples in grocery stores.
I don't like crates and wish they would do away with the practice. Regardless of my personal feelings, I do not believe ZOS has nefarious schemes at play when they give away free crates. They're marketing a product that they hope more people will buy into. Sure, it's a blegh product, imo, because it's too heavily RNG-based and not consumer friendly, but the sample of crates in and of itself is just ZOS trying to market to a wider audience.
EDIT: If you're completely against crates and absolutely despise even the free ones, you can not open those and let them sit on your account. They don't take up space and that way you don't have to participate at all (I know there are some people that do just this)
These particular crates are not primarily meant as marketing. They are primarily meant to make people with subs not feel left out during free ESO+ weekends. Marketing is secondary.
I suppose we can disagree on that. I don't think marketing the crates is secondary; I think the two go hand-in-hand quite nicely: Marketing ESO+ to non-subs. Marketing crates to subs (who get 1500 crowns per month and what do you know, a 4 pack of crates is 1500 crowns).PC/NAMountain God | Leave No Bone Unbroken | Apex Predator | Pure Lunacy | Depths Defier | No Rest for the Wicked | In Defiance of DeathMeet my characters :
Defanged the Devourer | Nature's Wrath | Relentless Raider | True Genius | Bane of Thorns | Subterranean Smasher | Ardent Bibliophile
vAA HM | vHRC HM | vSO HM | vDSA | vMoL HM | vHoF HM | vAS+2 | vCR+2 | vBRP | vSS HM | vKA | vRGIT DOESN'T MATTER BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL THE SAME NOW, THANKS ZOS2 -
Colecovision✭✭✭✭✭
✭I wasn’t going to open mine now anyway. Too many motifs that need 1 - 3 chapters to complete. I got the yukodan motif in a crate and I was very excited that I only knew 1 chapter at the time. My good rng wasn’t wasted.
Yes it’s all free, but they made it part of the game, so I can’t help but want to do the little bit I can to help my odds. If I get a gold motif again, I’d rather get the gems than finish off a style that needed less than 10% to complete.0 -
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✭✭DaveMoeDee wrote: »I look at free crates as a blessing. I'm not interested in them and definitely won't spend real money for a chance to get something I want. Free crates just reinforce the fact that the odds are very low for higher-tiered stuff (last ESO+ event, none of my free crates had anything at all above blue) so I don't feel like I'm missing out not purchasing any. And then I can get gems from all the crappy consumables I do get.
Yes, the personal chance is low - but you have to see it in a whole. Some people will get lucky and those are then likely to buy some more, because they think, this is always this way, just because they got lucky. And this way some will always be baited into buying them later on, just because among the many are always some lucky guys - that is why they give out RNG-boxes. This is not a gift in the first place, but a marketing instrument to get their crates promoted successfully - not a gift at all.
True. It's a free sample. Just like all free samples, it's provided as a way to entice people to buy the product. It's a tried and true marketing tactic, from make-up samples you get at the mall to food samples in grocery stores.
I don't like crates and wish they would do away with the practice. Regardless of my personal feelings, I do not believe ZOS has nefarious schemes at play when they give away free crates. They're marketing a product that they hope more people will buy into. Sure, it's a blegh product, imo, because it's too heavily RNG-based and not consumer friendly, but the sample of crates in and of itself is just ZOS trying to market to a wider audience.
EDIT: If you're completely against crates and absolutely despise even the free ones, you can not open those and let them sit on your account. They don't take up space and that way you don't have to participate at all (I know there are some people that do just this)
These particular crates are not primarily meant as marketing. They are primarily meant to make people with subs not feel left out during free ESO+ weekends. Marketing is secondary.
I suppose we can disagree on that. I don't think marketing the crates is secondary; I think the two go hand-in-hand quite nicely: Marketing ESO+ to non-subs. Marketing crates to subs (who get 1500 crowns per month and what do you know, a 4 pack of crates is 1500 crowns).
best get the tinfoil hat there.
marketing eso+ to non subs is a sensible thing to do. marketing crates to eso+ meh.... we've been exposed to that for some time and i do not think a few free crates is going to lure anyone into the demonic morass unless they have already participated.0 -
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✭✭✭PelinalWhitestrake wrote: »
So you can properly prepare yourself to be disappointed by the crates.which makes no sense since every other time it was immediately after the event ended, so why the 2 week delay now?
do they need time to lower the drop rate even more so as to make sure no one gets anything of worth with the FREE crates
This is what's wrong with the world.
People get something for free, then complain about how that free stuff wasn't good or didn't have something they wanted.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Normally true, however, this by nature is a design feature of crates or loots boxes. That shinny thing that you only have a small chance of getting, and therefore high chance of disappointment. (Disappointment and desire hopefully causing some players to buy more crates.) Can't really blame players for a feature working as intended.Main: Drio Azul ~ DC, Redguard, Healer/Magicka Templar ~ NA-PC
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✭✭✭✭Colecovision wrote: »I wasn’t going to open mine now anyway. Too many motifs that need 1 - 3 chapters to complete. I got the yukodan motif in a crate and I was very excited that I only knew 1 chapter at the time. My good rng wasn’t wasted.
Yes it’s all free, but they made it part of the game, so I can’t help but want to do the little bit I can to help my odds. If I get a gold motif again, I’d rather get the gems than finish off a style that needed less than 10% to complete.
Just so you know, any consumables (which mean the motif books as well) can be converted to gems, even if you don't already know it. Which is great for instances like you've described.
PC/NAMountain God | Leave No Bone Unbroken | Apex Predator | Pure Lunacy | Depths Defier | No Rest for the Wicked | In Defiance of DeathMeet my characters :
Defanged the Devourer | Nature's Wrath | Relentless Raider | True Genius | Bane of Thorns | Subterranean Smasher | Ardent Bibliophile
vAA HM | vHRC HM | vSO HM | vDSA | vMoL HM | vHoF HM | vAS+2 | vCR+2 | vBRP | vSS HM | vKA | vRGIT DOESN'T MATTER BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL THE SAME NOW, THANKS ZOS1 -
Colecovision✭✭✭✭✭
✭Colecovision wrote: »I wasn’t going to open mine now anyway. Too many motifs that need 1 - 3 chapters to complete. I got the yukodan motif in a crate and I was very excited that I only knew 1 chapter at the time. My good rng wasn’t wasted.
Yes it’s all free, but they made it part of the game, so I can’t help but want to do the little bit I can to help my odds. If I get a gold motif again, I’d rather get the gems than finish off a style that needed less than 10% to complete.
Just so you know, any consumables (which mean the motif books as well) can be converted to gems, even if you don't already know it. Which is great for instances like you've described.
Oh wow, I thought it worked like lipstick or whatever where you had to take it if you didn’t already have it. Thank you!0 -
Invincible✭✭✭✭✭The crates are out, if no one mentioned this yet. They always release them when maintenance is done. If it matters I'm PS4 NA.
No maintenance for pc this week. We will probably get them next week. If there's no maintenance next week it'll be the 16th and 3 weeks without it and the serves will probably melt.
It is kinda bs that consoles get their scratch off boxes a week before us though.0 -
maroite✭✭✭PelinalWhitestrake wrote: »
So you can properly prepare yourself to be disappointed by the crates.which makes no sense since every other time it was immediately after the event ended, so why the 2 week delay now?
do they need time to lower the drop rate even more so as to make sure no one gets anything of worth with the FREE crates
This is what's wrong with the world.
People get something for free, then complain about how that free stuff wasn't good or didn't have something they wanted.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
What is so surprising with this?- To get a gift which is not worth it, is just like an insult.
Seriously? lol I guess I was always taught that its the thought that matters. Who's the one considering the worth? The receiver or the giver?
I'd hate to be your friend... I pity those who don't give something up to your standards/expectations... hahahaPelinalWhitestrake wrote: »
You think that is what's wrong with the world?PelinalWhitestrake wrote: »
So you can properly prepare yourself to be disappointed by the crates.which makes no sense since every other time it was immediately after the event ended, so why the 2 week delay now?
do they need time to lower the drop rate even more so as to make sure no one gets anything of worth with the FREE crates
This is what's wrong with the world.
People get something for free, then complain about how that free stuff wasn't good or didn't have something they wanted.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
You're right, it's only a minuscule portion of what's wrong with this world... Sad.
Well, I don't expect to get gifts in the first place - but if, I do not want to be insulted by a bad one.
If you truly don't expect them, then the surprise of receiving one should be more than satisfactory, not the quality of the gift. It's not as if Zenimax is sending you a bag of dung in your mailbox.
There is truly nothing negative about free crates. If you could explain how they are negative then please do so, otherwise I'll just agree to disagree.
I wasn't referring to these crates nor evaluated them - but to the comment in a whole, that this would be a strange thing, to complain about a bad gift. To me it is an insult to get something, which I did not request, which takes away from my time and is then on top of it not worth it. I rather do not want to be bothered then with this "gift", because it is just annoying me.
Edit: Ah, you wanted to know why those crates could be a bad thing - well, they are bait, ZOS wants to bait you into buying more of them, by showing you those crates and eventually get you into buying them - and with some luck for them, you might get addicted. That is the BAD!
You're compounding the issue with "if's" and "but's." Free crown crates are not bad. When you add people with a lack of self control and financial sense, then the situation can become bad but ultimately the person is to blame, not the item. If you add the same type of person to any situation where they have an uncontrollable desire for something, they will make the situation worse.
Even with paid crates, ultimately the issue is with the individual and not the crates. Some people have self-control and financial sense and enjoy opening crates. They limit themselves despite not getting that precious shiny they wanted. They're not responsible for others who do not control their desires.
Although I agree it is addictive, I don't feel we should punish those who enjoy crates responsibly because others cannot control their urges. You can't coddle people and you can't protect them from themselves.1 -
Atallanta✭✭✭✭The crates are out, if no one mentioned this yet. They always release them when maintenance is done. If it matters I'm PS4 NA.
As for PC EU, I think they will be available this Friday after the maintenance "ESO Store and Account System for maintenance – May 4, 10:00AM EDT (14:00 UTC)"0 -
Violynne✭✭✭✭✭
✭I have zero expectation from these crates save one: I'll have more Foney Munny™ after they're opened, but still won't have enough to even buy the fleas off any mount offered in the store.
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heaven13✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭jedtb16_ESO wrote: »DaveMoeDee wrote: »I look at free crates as a blessing. I'm not interested in them and definitely won't spend real money for a chance to get something I want. Free crates just reinforce the fact that the odds are very low for higher-tiered stuff (last ESO+ event, none of my free crates had anything at all above blue) so I don't feel like I'm missing out not purchasing any. And then I can get gems from all the crappy consumables I do get.
Yes, the personal chance is low - but you have to see it in a whole. Some people will get lucky and those are then likely to buy some more, because they think, this is always this way, just because they got lucky. And this way some will always be baited into buying them later on, just because among the many are always some lucky guys - that is why they give out RNG-boxes. This is not a gift in the first place, but a marketing instrument to get their crates promoted successfully - not a gift at all.
True. It's a free sample. Just like all free samples, it's provided as a way to entice people to buy the product. It's a tried and true marketing tactic, from make-up samples you get at the mall to food samples in grocery stores.
I don't like crates and wish they would do away with the practice. Regardless of my personal feelings, I do not believe ZOS has nefarious schemes at play when they give away free crates. They're marketing a product that they hope more people will buy into. Sure, it's a blegh product, imo, because it's too heavily RNG-based and not consumer friendly, but the sample of crates in and of itself is just ZOS trying to market to a wider audience.
EDIT: If you're completely against crates and absolutely despise even the free ones, you can not open those and let them sit on your account. They don't take up space and that way you don't have to participate at all (I know there are some people that do just this)
These particular crates are not primarily meant as marketing. They are primarily meant to make people with subs not feel left out during free ESO+ weekends. Marketing is secondary.
I suppose we can disagree on that. I don't think marketing the crates is secondary; I think the two go hand-in-hand quite nicely: Marketing ESO+ to non-subs. Marketing crates to subs (who get 1500 crowns per month and what do you know, a 4 pack of crates is 1500 crowns).
best get the tinfoil hat there.
marketing eso+ to non subs is a sensible thing to do. marketing crates to eso+ meh.... we've been exposed to that for some time and i do not think a few free crates is going to lure anyone into the demonic morass unless they have already participated.
I don't see this as being a conspiracy theorist thing. (Especially considering that I conceded that marketing the crates isn't some nefarious plan on ZOS's part). I see it as the marketing department being aware of a potential customer and going for it. Out of everything they *could* give subscribers during this event, ZOS chose crates. There's not much offered these days for 1500 crowns anymore and crates are a device they've really focused on since their implementation. I'm not saying there is direct causality (1500 crowns specifically because of crates or that a 4 pack of crates is 1500 crowns because of sub); I'm saying that you can look at these 2 things independently of each other, look at the direction the crown store has favored, and marketing can go "hey, that's a good win/win for us".PC/NAMountain God | Leave No Bone Unbroken | Apex Predator | Pure Lunacy | Depths Defier | No Rest for the Wicked | In Defiance of DeathMeet my characters :
Defanged the Devourer | Nature's Wrath | Relentless Raider | True Genius | Bane of Thorns | Subterranean Smasher | Ardent Bibliophile
vAA HM | vHRC HM | vSO HM | vDSA | vMoL HM | vHoF HM | vAS+2 | vCR+2 | vBRP | vSS HM | vKA | vRGIT DOESN'T MATTER BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL THE SAME NOW, THANKS ZOS0 -
Guarlet✭✭✭✭✭Before getting free boxes:
After getting free boxes:
Edited by Guarlet on May 2, 2018 4:37PMAKA The Goblinator, PC/EU0 -
jedtb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭jedtb16_ESO wrote: »DaveMoeDee wrote: »I look at free crates as a blessing. I'm not interested in them and definitely won't spend real money for a chance to get something I want. Free crates just reinforce the fact that the odds are very low for higher-tiered stuff (last ESO+ event, none of my free crates had anything at all above blue) so I don't feel like I'm missing out not purchasing any. And then I can get gems from all the crappy consumables I do get.
Yes, the personal chance is low - but you have to see it in a whole. Some people will get lucky and those are then likely to buy some more, because they think, this is always this way, just because they got lucky. And this way some will always be baited into buying them later on, just because among the many are always some lucky guys - that is why they give out RNG-boxes. This is not a gift in the first place, but a marketing instrument to get their crates promoted successfully - not a gift at all.
True. It's a free sample. Just like all free samples, it's provided as a way to entice people to buy the product. It's a tried and true marketing tactic, from make-up samples you get at the mall to food samples in grocery stores.
I don't like crates and wish they would do away with the practice. Regardless of my personal feelings, I do not believe ZOS has nefarious schemes at play when they give away free crates. They're marketing a product that they hope more people will buy into. Sure, it's a blegh product, imo, because it's too heavily RNG-based and not consumer friendly, but the sample of crates in and of itself is just ZOS trying to market to a wider audience.
EDIT: If you're completely against crates and absolutely despise even the free ones, you can not open those and let them sit on your account. They don't take up space and that way you don't have to participate at all (I know there are some people that do just this)
These particular crates are not primarily meant as marketing. They are primarily meant to make people with subs not feel left out during free ESO+ weekends. Marketing is secondary.
I suppose we can disagree on that. I don't think marketing the crates is secondary; I think the two go hand-in-hand quite nicely: Marketing ESO+ to non-subs. Marketing crates to subs (who get 1500 crowns per month and what do you know, a 4 pack of crates is 1500 crowns).
best get the tinfoil hat there.
marketing eso+ to non subs is a sensible thing to do. marketing crates to eso+ meh.... we've been exposed to that for some time and i do not think a few free crates is going to lure anyone into the demonic morass unless they have already participated.
I don't see this as being a conspiracy theorist thing. (Especially considering that I conceded that marketing the crates isn't some nefarious plan on ZOS's part). I see it as the marketing department being aware of a potential customer and going for it. Out of everything they *could* give subscribers during this event, ZOS chose crates. There's not much offered these days for 1500 crowns anymore and crates are a device they've really focused on since their implementation. I'm not saying there is direct causality (1500 crowns specifically because of crates or that a 4 pack of crates is 1500 crowns because of sub); I'm saying that you can look at these 2 things independently of each other, look at the direction the crown store has favored, and marketing can go "hey, that's a good win/win for us".
ok... perhaps i was a bit over the top, i apologize.
but the idea that i am going to buy crates because i've been given some free? nope, that's not going to work. i already know what i will get in the crates, either free or purchased, it will be consumables. how do i know this? because zos told me. look at the blurb on them. ignore the fluff, ignore the attempted seduction of your inner snowflake with all the 'potential' stuff and concentrate on the core message..... consumables.
if anyone expects any more than consumables and gets disappointed they only have themselves to blame. the only things you are promised are consumables.0
