I turned my MagDK into a vampire and I regret it I have all the passives and whatnot but my health recovery is to slow. I cannot keep him alive in solo play most of the time. If I play with a healer, I'm golden.

Edit: yes I'm sure i'm playing it wrong lol

Just the dark stalker alone is useful enough for me to use vamp on a stamblade. It give me unlimited sneak. Stam is precious and I don't need to be using it sneaking around. Also stam regenerates in mist form so it's very useful for stamina build to escape a bad spot and also get some resources back.

Emma_Overload wrote: »

Vampire should have FIVE abilities, just like WW. PERIOD.

First let's try re-balancing the abilities we have since they were nerfed into oblivion.

Drain essence: the heal should go back to being based on the damage done

Invigorating drain: should restore stamina instead of ultimate and the damage should be based on max health

Accelerating drain: should be renamed "consume essence" and hit 2 additional enemies within 6m of the target (instead of granting major expedition which is the least accessible way to get this buff in the game)


I don't use mist form so don't know from experience what it needs.


Bat Swarm was both the vampire's best ability and it's curse. In previous versions, Bat Swarm's morph "Devouring Swarm" was immensely powerful and cost next to nothing if you stacked enough ultimate cost reduction. this caused non-vamps to rage and call down the nerf bat which got us vastly less cost reduction, 20% less damage, and 30% less healing. I've always thought that the ability was lackluster in general and just an aoe version of drain and thus I've revamped it entirely.

Bat Swarm - Transform into a swarm of bats and fly towards your target to bite them for [x] damage and heal yourself for 70/80/90/100% of the damage done. Using this ability will decrease your vampire stage by 1. 22m range.

Devouring Swarm - Bats also attack each enemy you pass through on the way to your target dealing [y] damage and healing you for 20/30/40/50% of the damage done.

Incapacitating Swarm - Bats continue to assault your target, dealing [y] damage and stunning them over 2 seconds.

fxeconomisteb17_ESO wrote: »

And you'll be immune to Defile. Defile applies again to received heal, not to healing regen. You'd be immune even to Fasalla's Guille.

Yeah ... no you are wrong sorry.

Defile does apply to health regen.

I don't think they should have added Vampires to the game at all. They have been a balancing nightmare from day 1.

I wasn't a huge fan of having them in the game tbh. Even though I played them in Skyrim, this is an MMO, and balance is an issue. if either of them is an advantage over being just a normal class, then everyone becomes one, and its no longer elder scrolls, it's elder vampires and werewolves. and trying to balance them out to be net neutral after the pro's and cons is a nightmare.

Personally, I think that both should become cosmetic options only, with multiple options of each. Barring that, they could make Vamp like WW that if you don't feed, it goes away. That would probably be easier to balance then how it is now. WW is a fun aspect of play, but not game breaking due to it's inherent timer. I never see guides recommend WW, but I see Vamp recommended all the time, even with it's current limitations. That says something. so if vamps had a timer like WW did, then they could balance the skills and make them interesting, since it wouldn't be permanent.

either way, There really shouldn't be a distinct advantage to being one above being normal. Not in an MMO.

Seems vampires are becoming actually cool with Greymoor. Looking forward to see.

The great change is that FEEDING NOW INCREASES VAMPIRE STAGE.

So, if stages 2/3/4 had 25/50/75% health regen impairment reduced to 25/50/75, (supposedly reduced by Unnatural Resistance to 0/25/50) quickly advancing due to using abilities, now probably abilities either heal vampire stage or do nothing.

Which means that vampire abilities are very usable with a minimum or NO HEALTH REGEN cost. Forget about Undeath. It was stupid anyway, when you are almost dead to be ultra resilient.
The percentual cost, Green Blood - like of Drain, or even the Mist Form have a lot of logic now. You have no trouble not being healed in Mist Form, because heath regen is not impaired.

Overall, looks good to me.