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Do you guys think 2handed weapons will be a good pve option in summerset??
Bigevilpeter
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One of the biggest 2 h problems is that you lost a set piece when you used 2h in PVE also a bit of weapon damage and crit if you used daggers.
However All stam classes except NB lacked an execute also Stamsorc and StamDK lacked a spammable so wrecking blow and Executioner can be really useful there.
What do you guys think??
Also which weapon type would be best for PVE axe,maul or greatsword??
Edited by Bigevilpeter on April 20, 2018 4:54PM However All stam classes except NB lacked an execute also Stamsorc and StamDK lacked a spammable so wrecking blow and Executioner can be really useful there.
What do you guys think??
Also which weapon type would be best for PVE axe,maul or greatsword??
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Guarlet✭✭✭✭✭I don't remember exactly, but isn't light and heavy attack damage of 2H actually getting nerfed in Summerset? Thought I saw that in the patch notes somewhere.
Anyways, I think that while it's looking like 2H may end up overall getting a little bit better due to getting an extra set bonus, DW/Bow is still going to be the highest DPS and thus still meta for stamDPS. You can certainly use 2H in more casual content if you like, but that was pretty much already the case before.
So overall, don't think we'll see too much of a change. Just my two cents, somebody who is knowledgeable about the exact details can feel free to correct me.Edited by Guarlet on April 20, 2018 5:20PMAKA The Goblinator, PC/EU0 -
Kanar✭✭✭✭✭
✭Lul you are way off base with the "biggest problem" with 2h. Had nothing to do with the set bonus. ZoS is NERFING 2h in summerset with the LA nerf.
Right now 2h is a good option in PvE. If the LA nerf remains it will not be any better in SS.0 -
DMuehlhausen✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Lul you are way off base with the "biggest problem" with 2h. Had nothing to do with the set bonus. ZoS is NERFING 2h in summerset with the LA nerf.
Right now 2h is a good option in PvE. If the LA nerf remains it will not be any better in SS.
It's probably being nerfed to bring it inline with the fact that you can have 2 5 piece gear sets which will off set the nerf...or at least in theory do that
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Kanar✭✭✭✭✭
✭DMuehlhausen wrote: »Lul you are way off base with the "biggest problem" with 2h. Had nothing to do with the set bonus. ZoS is NERFING 2h in summerset with the LA nerf.
Right now 2h is a good option in PvE. If the LA nerf remains it will not be any better in SS.
It's probably being nerfed to bring it inline with the fact that you can have 2 5 piece gear sets which will off set the nerf...or at least in theory do that
That would be ok if 2h wasn't already behind DW (PVE). Currently there are some pve scenarios where DW is required (blade cloak) and in every trial there are boss fights where if you choose to use 2h then you are not contributing as much as you could with dw (lower st dps).0 -
Guarlet✭✭✭✭✭DMuehlhausen wrote: »Lul you are way off base with the "biggest problem" with 2h. Had nothing to do with the set bonus. ZoS is NERFING 2h in summerset with the LA nerf.
Right now 2h is a good option in PvE. If the LA nerf remains it will not be any better in SS.
It's probably being nerfed to bring it inline with the fact that you can have 2 5 piece gear sets which will off set the nerf...or at least in theory do that
That would be ok if 2h wasn't already behind DW (PVE). Currently there are some pve scenarios where DW is required (blade cloak) and in every trial there are boss fights where if you choose to use 2h then you are not contributing as much as you could with dw (lower st dps).
Don't do much PVP, but I'm pretty sure it's the opposite in PVP though. 2H is very popular there. So that's probably the rationale behind it.AKA The Goblinator, PC/EU0 -
magictucktuck✭✭✭✭✭Nightblade will be viable since we have a spamable, WB will still be sub-par in PVE. the execute from 2h will be better for trash packs. but 2h will be arguably better for pugging vet pledges and stuff for rally and better survivability when they group is not very good. im sure you could pull good numbers, ill probably use it for dungeons.
but for any other class its still going to suck because WB... its better to stack dot dmg with flurry for the other casses (edit although you can complete any DLC dungeon with WB anyways they just wont die as fast and it would just slow down the group especially if they already suck)Edited by magictucktuck on April 20, 2018 6:01PM0 -
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✭DMuehlhausen wrote: »Lul you are way off base with the "biggest problem" with 2h. Had nothing to do with the set bonus. ZoS is NERFING 2h in summerset with the LA nerf.
Right now 2h is a good option in PvE. If the LA nerf remains it will not be any better in SS.
It's probably being nerfed to bring it inline with the fact that you can have 2 5 piece gear sets which will off set the nerf...or at least in theory do that
That would be ok if 2h wasn't already behind DW (PVE). Currently there are some pve scenarios where DW is required (blade cloak) and in every trial there are boss fights where if you choose to use 2h then you are not contributing as much as you could with dw (lower st dps).
Don't do much PVP, but I'm pretty sure it's the opposite in PVP though. 2H is very popular there. So that's probably the rationale behind it.
So yet again they're breaking something in PVE because of PVP?PC NA, PC EU
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✭TheRealPotoroo wrote: »DMuehlhausen wrote: »Lul you are way off base with the "biggest problem" with 2h. Had nothing to do with the set bonus. ZoS is NERFING 2h in summerset with the LA nerf.
Right now 2h is a good option in PvE. If the LA nerf remains it will not be any better in SS.
It's probably being nerfed to bring it inline with the fact that you can have 2 5 piece gear sets which will off set the nerf...or at least in theory do that
That would be ok if 2h wasn't already behind DW (PVE). Currently there are some pve scenarios where DW is required (blade cloak) and in every trial there are boss fights where if you choose to use 2h then you are not contributing as much as you could with dw (lower st dps).
Don't do much PVP, but I'm pretty sure it's the opposite in PVP though. 2H is very popular there. So that's probably the rationale behind it.
So yet again they're breaking something in PVE because of PVP?
Yes that is point 1 and the 2nd is it may be the rationale but it completely misses the mark, because people don't use 2h in PvP for it's LA damage. They use it for rally, stampede and reverse slice.0 -
Mannox✭✭✭I don't remember exactly, but isn't light and heavy attack damage of 2H actually getting nerfed in Summerset? Thought I saw that in the patch notes somewhere.
Anyways, I think that while it's looking like 2H may end up overall getting a little bit better due to getting an extra set bonus, DW/Bow is still going to be the highest DPS and thus still meta for stamDPS. You can certainly use 2H in more casual content if you like, but that was pretty much already the case before.
So overall, don't think we'll see too much of a change. Just my two cents, somebody who is knowledgeable about the exact details can feel free to correct me.
You can already use 2H in veteran HM trials. DW is better yes but both are already miles past the bar required to contribute effectively. Especially if you're Sorcerer.0 -
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✭Define 'good'
Able to pull over 25k self buffed, not level of DW but still OK.Xbox one EU
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Bigevilpeter✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Wrecking_Blow_Spam wrote: »Define 'good'
Able to pull over 25k self buffed, not level of DW but still OK.
Well what about the execute phase for all stamina classes other than NB?
It will all a huge damage boost post 25 or even 50%
Also momentum will give Stamplars a heal and a major brutality0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I don't remember exactly, but isn't light and heavy attack damage of 2H actually getting nerfed in Summerset? Thought I saw that in the patch notes somewhere.
Anyways, I think that while it's looking like 2H may end up overall getting a little bit better due to getting an extra set bonus, DW/Bow is still going to be the highest DPS and thus still meta for stamDPS. You can certainly use 2H in more casual content if you like, but that was pretty much already the case before.
So overall, don't think we'll see too much of a change. Just my two cents, somebody who is knowledgeable about the exact details can feel free to correct me.
The damage of it's light and heavy attacks are geting slightly reduced to be in line with what is essentially going to be 'normalized' light attack damage across the board.
But with the set items counting twohanders as two? It'll even out.0 -
Medakon✭✭✭What do you mean "will it be good" ? I been using 2hander for PvE content for 1.5 years now, doing 30-50k dps depending on the boss fight. Imperial Nightblade stamina.Medakon - Legendary Super Hero Professional Assassin Nightblade from Tamriel who do different stuff
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