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stamblade players: what's your best training dummy parse without weapon power potions?
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ArchMikem✭✭✭✭✭
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Quest Objective: OMG Go Talk To That Kitty!0 -
Sekero✭✭✭What is this spectral bow you speak of?
I have never had this proc for me. Not even once, on 3 characters.
The Spectral bow is the result of having either Relentless Focus (the Stam. morph of Grim Focus....) or Merciless Resolve (the Magika morph...) It must be slotted in your hotbar and activated....
I know that... Just saying that it's never procced for me, so I removed Relentless and use summon shade. At least that works, for now.1 -
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✭✭✭Don't have War Machine yet so I'm running Mechanical Acuity with TFS
Can only hit about 28k with Trash pots but my weaving is far from perfect.Argonian forever0 -
reprosal✭✭✭✭✭Zagnut123Zagnut123 wrote: »Zagnut123Zagnut123 wrote: »Zagnut123Zagnut123 wrote: »imnotanother wrote: »Axe/infused and Dagger/Precise.
I am completely aware of uselessness of Viper.
Hoping to score some WM jewelry tonight and to start farming gear from Trials.
Better off with nirnhoned poison damage and infused offhand weapon damage than your setup.
NMG/Hunding is perfectly viable.
Nmg hundings isn't viable till next patch, unless u sacrifice monster helm.
willhardt716ub17_ESO as for op deadly cloak is a dps loss in a stamblades rotation I'd put an extra fighters guild ability front bar if u can for the extra won dmg. Also in execute dont use rending slashes anymore just refresh back bar dots relentless focus and execute like a mad man.
You only sacrifice it if you are using 2h/bow, and I believe he is talking DW/Bow.
Also, deadly cloak for test dummies is a part of a real trial scenario. The second you put the extra FG ability on the front bar, you are considered to be 'cheesing' a test dummy parse.
I and most ppl I know stoped using deadly cloak in trials a long time ago so it's not cheesing it's savy with how I and many play stamblades. I don't use deadly cloak in any of the hard modes either besides vhof. 2h bow is good for trash but that's not what I'm talking about.
Not sure what you are talking about then regarding the 2H aspect. Anyways, more power to you guys not running deadly cloak I guess.
2h and bow is op for trash stacks is what I was talking about. If you use a master 2hander with brawler you can do more damage then steel nado and get massive shields that make u nigh indestructible in sketchy trash stacks. If you don't use deadly cloak you can get one more surprise attack off and deal quite a bit more dmg, it requires healers that aren't potatoes in some fights tho.
Oh yea dude for sure. 2H obliterates aoe trash. I was specifically talking about ST though sorry. I wish the 2H light attack changes on the PTS were not what they are... I thoroughly enjoy 2H more
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Danksta✭✭✭✭✭
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He's clearly not using trash pots. That's how hard those skills hit on an optimized setup when fully (self) buffed.BawKinTackWarDs PS4/NA0 -
kylewwefan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭If you’re not running tons of coordinated vet trials, I’d stick with build that suits your actual play style rather than phenomenal dummy nuking.
I went and beat on a 3 mil dummy for a quick minute to double check. Hit 28K with green trash pots. I could keep going all day like this mind you.
I keep relentless on the bar, more for Stam recovery than damage really. I do hit the proc every now and then, but I don’t rely on it. Got no room for blade cloak. Using Dawnbreaker front bar, Ballista bow bar.
....I have the war machine, accuity, Veledreth, stormfist, But VO/TFS work much better for me in action.
I was stuck at about 20K for a long time. With much help I got up to 36k and it went higher than that in group testing.
Then all that went away and I mostly lfg/ solo now.
Getting that perfect rotation down on the dummy also goes out the window in real combat. It’s just a joke. The important stuff is keeping your hard hitting dots on boss and waiting it out til execute time. This is what nightblades do really good.
For fun, beat a 6 mil or bigger down to %25 health then start testing. It’s something else when your spammable is critting for 60k
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reprosal✭✭✭✭✭kylewwefan wrote: »If you’re not running tons of coordinated vet trials, I’d stick with build that suits your actual play style rather than phenomenal dummy nuking.
I went and beat on a 3 mil dummy for a quick minute to double check. Hit 28K with green trash pots. I could keep going all day like this mind you.
I keep relentless on the bar, more for Stam recovery than damage really. I do hit the proc every now and then, but I don’t rely on it. Got no room for blade cloak. Using Dawnbreaker front bar, Ballista bow bar.
....I have the war machine, accuity, Veledreth, stormfist, But VO/TFS work much better for me in action.
I was stuck at about 20K for a long time. With much help I got up to 36k and it went higher than that in group testing.
Then all that went away and I mostly lfg/ solo now.
Getting that perfect rotation down on the dummy also goes out the window in real combat. It’s just a joke. The important stuff is keeping your hard hitting dots on boss and waiting it out til execute time. This is what nightblades do really good.
For fun, beat a 6 mil or bigger down to %25 health then start testing. It’s something else when your spammable is critting for 60k
Not using your soul harvest ult and mechanical acuity procs together is basically telling me that you don’t utilize that burst properly at all. The key to NB and acuity is to time war machine uptime during your acuity proc and 6 seconds of increased damage from your ult.
The only reason we have DB on fb is for the WD boost.
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kylewwefan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I know. See, that kind of setup was worse for me, because I like running recovery and defensive setup, being more well rounded.
War machine and incap is like a percentage modifier that works better with more. You know, the more you have, the more you get. I just can’t play like that.
Izaki took some time and gave me pointers. Really helped me get my Damage up. But it didn’t really help me become a much better player.
So I tone it back a bit. I single target 28k and melt mobs and not squishy because of 2 add armor monster pieces.
I will swap gears if Group is good. 2 complete sets of VO jewelry. One stock recovery, one WD. War machine i only have one and is all WD. I’m not crazy about accuity on StamBlade and it probably is for learning how to use it proper.0 -
Zagnut123Zagnut123✭✭✭✭Zagnut123Zagnut123 wrote: »Zagnut123Zagnut123 wrote: »Zagnut123Zagnut123 wrote: »imnotanother wrote: »Axe/infused and Dagger/Precise.
I am completely aware of uselessness of Viper.
Hoping to score some WM jewelry tonight and to start farming gear from Trials.
Better off with nirnhoned poison damage and infused offhand weapon damage than your setup.
NMG/Hunding is perfectly viable.
Nmg hundings isn't viable till next patch, unless u sacrifice monster helm.
willhardt716ub17_ESO as for op deadly cloak is a dps loss in a stamblades rotation I'd put an extra fighters guild ability front bar if u can for the extra won dmg. Also in execute dont use rending slashes anymore just refresh back bar dots relentless focus and execute like a mad man.
You only sacrifice it if you are using 2h/bow, and I believe he is talking DW/Bow.
Also, deadly cloak for test dummies is a part of a real trial scenario. The second you put the extra FG ability on the front bar, you are considered to be 'cheesing' a test dummy parse.
I and most ppl I know stoped using deadly cloak in trials a long time ago so it's not cheesing it's savy with how I and many play stamblades. I don't use deadly cloak in any of the hard modes either besides vhof. 2h bow is good for trash but that's not what I'm talking about.
Not sure what you are talking about then regarding the 2H aspect. Anyways, more power to you guys not running deadly cloak I guess.
2h and bow is op for trash stacks is what I was talking about. If you use a master 2hander with brawler you can do more damage then steel nado and get massive shields that make u nigh indestructible in sketchy trash stacks. If you don't use deadly cloak you can get one more surprise attack off and deal quite a bit more dmg, it requires healers that aren't potatoes in some fights tho.
Oh yea dude for sure. 2H obliterates aoe trash. I was specifically talking about ST though sorry. I wish the 2H light attack changes on the PTS were not what they are... I thoroughly enjoy 2H more
Yeah 2h might be on top for st soon. Will be an interesting patch for sureEdited by Zagnut123Zagnut123 on April 25, 2018 5:56PM0 -
reprosal✭✭✭✭✭Zagnut123Zagnut123 wrote: »Zagnut123Zagnut123 wrote: »Zagnut123Zagnut123 wrote: »Zagnut123Zagnut123 wrote: »imnotanother wrote: »Axe/infused and Dagger/Precise.
I am completely aware of uselessness of Viper.
Hoping to score some WM jewelry tonight and to start farming gear from Trials.
Better off with nirnhoned poison damage and infused offhand weapon damage than your setup.
NMG/Hunding is perfectly viable.
Nmg hundings isn't viable till next patch, unless u sacrifice monster helm.
willhardt716ub17_ESO as for op deadly cloak is a dps loss in a stamblades rotation I'd put an extra fighters guild ability front bar if u can for the extra won dmg. Also in execute dont use rending slashes anymore just refresh back bar dots relentless focus and execute like a mad man.
You only sacrifice it if you are using 2h/bow, and I believe he is talking DW/Bow.
Also, deadly cloak for test dummies is a part of a real trial scenario. The second you put the extra FG ability on the front bar, you are considered to be 'cheesing' a test dummy parse.
I and most ppl I know stoped using deadly cloak in trials a long time ago so it's not cheesing it's savy with how I and many play stamblades. I don't use deadly cloak in any of the hard modes either besides vhof. 2h bow is good for trash but that's not what I'm talking about.
Not sure what you are talking about then regarding the 2H aspect. Anyways, more power to you guys not running deadly cloak I guess.
2h and bow is op for trash stacks is what I was talking about. If you use a master 2hander with brawler you can do more damage then steel nado and get massive shields that make u nigh indestructible in sketchy trash stacks. If you don't use deadly cloak you can get one more surprise attack off and deal quite a bit more dmg, it requires healers that aren't potatoes in some fights tho.
Oh yea dude for sure. 2H obliterates aoe trash. I was specifically talking about ST though sorry. I wish the 2H light attack changes on the PTS were not what they are... I thoroughly enjoy 2H more
Yeah 2h might be on top for st soon. Will be an interesting patch for sure
Not unless they adjust the 2H light attack damage nerf..0 -
Zagnut123Zagnut123✭✭✭✭Zagnut123Zagnut123 wrote: »Zagnut123Zagnut123 wrote: »Zagnut123Zagnut123 wrote: »Zagnut123Zagnut123 wrote: »imnotanother wrote: »Axe/infused and Dagger/Precise.
I am completely aware of uselessness of Viper.
Hoping to score some WM jewelry tonight and to start farming gear from Trials.
Better off with nirnhoned poison damage and infused offhand weapon damage than your setup.
NMG/Hunding is perfectly viable.
Nmg hundings isn't viable till next patch, unless u sacrifice monster helm.
willhardt716ub17_ESO as for op deadly cloak is a dps loss in a stamblades rotation I'd put an extra fighters guild ability front bar if u can for the extra won dmg. Also in execute dont use rending slashes anymore just refresh back bar dots relentless focus and execute like a mad man.
You only sacrifice it if you are using 2h/bow, and I believe he is talking DW/Bow.
Also, deadly cloak for test dummies is a part of a real trial scenario. The second you put the extra FG ability on the front bar, you are considered to be 'cheesing' a test dummy parse.
I and most ppl I know stoped using deadly cloak in trials a long time ago so it's not cheesing it's savy with how I and many play stamblades. I don't use deadly cloak in any of the hard modes either besides vhof. 2h bow is good for trash but that's not what I'm talking about.
Not sure what you are talking about then regarding the 2H aspect. Anyways, more power to you guys not running deadly cloak I guess.
2h and bow is op for trash stacks is what I was talking about. If you use a master 2hander with brawler you can do more damage then steel nado and get massive shields that make u nigh indestructible in sketchy trash stacks. If you don't use deadly cloak you can get one more surprise attack off and deal quite a bit more dmg, it requires healers that aren't potatoes in some fights tho.
Oh yea dude for sure. 2H obliterates aoe trash. I was specifically talking about ST though sorry. I wish the 2H light attack changes on the PTS were not what they are... I thoroughly enjoy 2H more
Yeah 2h might be on top for st soon. Will be an interesting patch for sure
Not unless they adjust the 2H light attack damage nerf..
Yeah but the damage shield would make fights like vmol hm a cake but that's just speculation at this as I haven't tried it yet. I'd like them to adjust how 2handers heavy attacks weave into other skills as it's super wonkyEdited by Zagnut123Zagnut123 on April 26, 2018 5:10AM0 -
Jhalin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Stamblades have a passive buff for Savagery. And Hidden Blades in place of rearming until the bug on that skill is fixed to give Brutality.0
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