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Noxious Breath buff with CC
GeorgeBlack
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Here's a way to improve this skill for PvP without affecting PvE.
Add hard CC to Noxious Breath.
Similar to how NBs cause enemies to run in fear, DKs that breath toxic on ememies should cause them to panic and try to save themselves.
Why do I want to buff stamDK?
They are not at the top of the list right now. Only better than templars (poor templars. Such a cool class).
Would stamDK become OP with this change?
No the CC would not be a game changer.
I can still stun with reverb bash or fossilize, but I would like to replace them. Why? SnB, the only viable way to play stamDK is boring.
Fossilize costs magika. Add igneous shield, add FoO add perhaps Wings and you need to rethink your rotations .
Noxious Breath would make stamDKs a good addition to orginized PvP. Just like every group runs a magDK for talons, just like that a stamDK can use this AoE as CC. 2-3 targets maybe. Like NB.
Noxious Breath is an iconic dragonknight skill. It is even depicted at the artwork with the 2 DKs fighting each other that came out with IC. However being so weak, Noxious breath can be replaced with almost anything. This buff will make Noxious breath a viable skill, that adds to the classes identity.
Paired with the changes to combustion I believe that this will improve stamDKs in PvP without affecting PvE.
I think it would look rly cool to see enemies in flames running around
Add hard CC to Noxious Breath.
Similar to how NBs cause enemies to run in fear, DKs that breath toxic on ememies should cause them to panic and try to save themselves.
Why do I want to buff stamDK?
They are not at the top of the list right now. Only better than templars (poor templars. Such a cool class).
Would stamDK become OP with this change?
No the CC would not be a game changer.
I can still stun with reverb bash or fossilize, but I would like to replace them. Why? SnB, the only viable way to play stamDK is boring.
Fossilize costs magika. Add igneous shield, add FoO add perhaps Wings and you need to rethink your rotations .
Noxious Breath would make stamDKs a good addition to orginized PvP. Just like every group runs a magDK for talons, just like that a stamDK can use this AoE as CC. 2-3 targets maybe. Like NB.
Noxious Breath is an iconic dragonknight skill. It is even depicted at the artwork with the 2 DKs fighting each other that came out with IC. However being so weak, Noxious breath can be replaced with almost anything. This buff will make Noxious breath a viable skill, that adds to the classes identity.
Paired with the changes to combustion I believe that this will improve stamDKs in PvP without affecting PvE.
I think it would look rly cool to see enemies in flames running around
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GeorgeBlack✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Buff Noxious breath.
Buff stamDK class skills.
Buff stamDK without affecting PvP.
Maintain DragonKnight identity.
Provide more viable options and variety in builds.
2018Edited by GeorgeBlack on April 24, 2018 2:46PM0 -
TrinityBreaker✭✭✭✭✭I giggled at the hard cc thing, it would be nice IMO. Plus thinking about how my DKs breath would be so hot that it knocks people on their ass.Ebonheart for life.
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Khajiit Stam Sorc - Ji'saad Ranajiradh AR 30
Khajiit Mag DK - Kesjhad
Khajiit Magblade - Ji'sava Ak'nir
Fat Khajiit Stamplar - Dro'haniAk'nir - AR 36
Khajiit Stam Dk - Diego Ri'jhad - AR 49
Khajiit Magplar - Dro'nara Ak'nir
Khajiit StamBlade - Ri'artharr Ak'nir
Fat Khajiit Stamden - Dro'hani Warbreaker
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Brrrofski✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭I'd at least like it so noxious actually hit my target in PvP.
I was dueling a magica DK for about 20 minutes the other day and it didn't connect once with him. The whole fight he's unfractured. Taken it off my bar completely. Useless.1 -
Vizier✭✭✭✭✭
✭Because talons aren't a good CC right? ...
Edited by Vizier on April 24, 2018 5:43PM0 -
DeadlyRecluse✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Until the Fear CC effect is fixed, we certainly shouldn't have more sources of it.
I also am not a huge fan of adding CC to the DK toolkit that moves people away from you. Seems counterintuitive to the rest of the kit: "Stop running away, I want to whip you!"
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dsalter✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭i'd rather it "stun" them for 2 seconds while they scream in pain, after all, toxic/chemical fire is apparently quite painful.
then fix the hitbox so it actually connect, so many times on my stam sorc i dont get hit by it once.PLEASE REPLY TO ME WITH @dsalter otherwise i'm likely to miss the reply if its not my own thread
EU - [Arch Mage Dave] Altmer Sorcerer
Fight back at the crates and boxes, together we can change things.0 -
stimpy986b14_ESO✭✭✭✭there's a few problems with your suggestion
1. Aspect of terror does zero damage
2. Aspect of terror only hits 2 targets while noxious breath hits all targets in the cone
3. Aspect of terror costs about 30% more than noxious breath
4. adding fear to noxious breath would absolutely ruin the skill for PVE because using it would force enemies out of everyone else's aoes.
You want a hard CC as a stamDK? use power bash or dizzying swing or scatter shot or turn undead (since everyone is a vampire)Edited by stimpy986b14_ESO on April 24, 2018 7:21PM0 -
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✭✭✭I'd at least like it so noxious actually hit my target in PvP.
I was dueling a magica DK for about 20 minutes the other day and it didn't connect once with him. The whole fight he's unfractured. Taken it off my bar completely. Useless.
This is so true. I’ve been in large scale battles where 10 people are directly in front of me....noxious missed and was not applied. What?!
I would be against adding a cc, but they need to make the skill actually work.
Noxious into dizzying. Already have the CC there.
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GeorgeBlack✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭1)you cant use noxious breath AND whip a target. The one skill is for stamDK and the other is for magDK. How did you even reach that conclusion??
2)who does use Noxious Breath in PvE these days? There are a tone of skills you can use the the rotation that offer more DPs.
Tanks use SnB for Maj Frac
3)Buff Noxious Breath. Its landing rate is low and its dmg less than that of a coue of LA weaves0 -
Yolokin_Swagonborn✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭How about having the breath linger a bit on the battlefield as a noxious cloud after casting.
Anyone that steps through it also gets the dot. Would be awesome if a stamDK breathed all over the breach to a keep.
But if you want to fix stamDKs, it start with un-nerfing battle roar and helping hands.Edited by Yolokin_Swagonborn on April 25, 2018 12:06AM0
