Where is the love for Bruisers in PvP?

Mannox · April 2018

Outside of 2-4 man Werewolf groups playing a bruiser setup seems too difficult in PvP. At least for me. I've been trying to make it fun for myself since launch and I always fall back on ambush or tanking/debuff/healing to avoid rage quitting. Any bruisers out there having more success than I? Share your thoughts and or builds.

Anastian · April 2018

Following.

IlCanis_LupuslI · April 2018

What is a bruiser setup? You mean a frontline dd who can also take a bit of a punch???

Mannox · April 2018

Mangeli200194 wrote: »

What is a bruiser setup? You mean a frontline dd who can also take a bit of a punch???

"Bruiser" is usually a melee who is tough. It's a gaming term that refers to a style of play in PvP (and PvE for that matter). Like tank or healer. I guess the best examples would come from games like LoL or Smite. The bruisers job is to setup the kills in group play or learn to exhaust their opponents in one on one. Generally it's a more difficult way to play and their weakness is carries and/or ambushers. Whereas their strengths lie in dealing good damage but without being squishy. They're not about big crits they're about heavy sustainable damage without the spiking. Same goes for mitigating health loss.

Undefwun · April 2018

Almost sounds like DKs or Templars in heavy armour... both have damage mitigation...

As a magblade, they seem to put out decent enough damage...

Ectheliontnacil · April 2018

Bruiser setups are literally the most obnoxious specs in Cyrodiil, when played by an experienced person. All those heavy armour (and some times medium) stamsorcs, stamdks and stamina wardens are insanely tanky. They spam heroic slash for life and since most of them are running snare immunity they don't need a gapcloser.

I think they're some of the most annoying setups to to fight and very boring to play with. But they're effective and so every meta hunyer runs those builds. Tanky (basically unkillable 1v1 by most magicka openworld builds) and well suited to grind down your opponents.

If that's not what you meant by "bruiser", I am sorry.

TheYKcid · April 2018

Almost any stam toon can do this using heavy armor, with Bloodspawn or Trollking for their monster set. It's even better with S&B, which you can run on the frontbar without too much of a damage loss.

With strong heavy armor options that gives tons of weapon damage (eg. 7th legion), combined with the natural burstiness of stam, you can easily deliver 85+% of the burst that someone in medium can, in addition to having better sustained pressure (since you don't have to play defensive as often).

It's a very effective playstyle that you'll commonly encounter in the duelling scene. Not nearly as dominant open world, but still strong.

Definitely not an unloved or underused playstyle in ESO.

Skander · April 2018

Bruisers were a thing when heavy armor had it's pros.

For exemple the Wrath passive that is now gone

Now everyone, but few exeptions, prefer to run LIght/Medium just becouse you can tank the same and dish out more dmg

Heavy armor is still good for some passive sustain and defence, still. But probably they should add something back like block cost reduction, or a mini wrath

Aisle9 · April 2018

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glavius · April 2018

I'd say my Stam NB build is bruiser like.
Check out the newest videos in my signature (detailed build in video description)

IlCanis_LupuslI · April 2018

Oh in that case, a bruiser is exactly my playstyle :-D,

sincerely,

stamina nightblade werewolf, heavy armor

usmguy1234 · April 2018

Mannox wrote: »

Outside of 2-4 man Werewolf groups playing a bruiser setup seems too difficult in PvP. At least for me. I've been trying to make it fun for myself since launch and I always fall back on ambush or tanking/debuff/healing to avoid rage quitting. Any bruisers out there having more success than I? Share your thoughts and or builds.

Problem is you can only have two of three things which are mitigation, sustain or damage. The scenario you are talking about is a mixture of mitagation and dps... so your obvious weakness will be sustain. I find it best to balance the 3 the best I can. The play style you want is obtainable by any class you just have to build towards it but do realize that you will more than likely be snared to death.

Enslaved · April 2018

Mannox wrote: »

Mangeli200194 wrote: »

What is a bruiser setup? You mean a frontline dd who can also take a bit of a punch???

"Bruiser" is usually a melee who is tough. It's a gaming term that refers to a style of play in PvP (and PvE for that matter). Like tank or healer. I guess the best examples would come from games like LoL or Smite. The bruisers job is to setup the kills in group play or learn to exhaust their opponents in one on one. Generally it's a more difficult way to play and their weakness is carries and/or ambushers. Whereas their strengths lie in dealing good damage but without being squishy. They're not about big crits they're about heavy sustainable damage without the spiking. Same goes for mitigating health loss.

Roll sDK, sWar and go with 2h/1h&s setup. Heavy armor, 5-1-1, 7th legion + some ulti gain set + bloodspawn.

technohic · April 2018

You don't see them in zerg vs zerg a lot because anything will die to a ball group or even just trying to go running in where there is a ton of people using ranged just hoping for someone to come close enough to take all the focus of 20 players.

Go to shor, get away from the zergs. The "bruisers" will find you.

usmguy1234 · April 2018

Enslaved wrote: »

Mannox wrote: »

Mangeli200194 wrote: »

What is a bruiser setup? You mean a frontline dd who can also take a bit of a punch???

"Bruiser" is usually a melee who is tough. It's a gaming term that refers to a style of play in PvP (and PvE for that matter). Like tank or healer. I guess the best examples would come from games like LoL or Smite. The bruisers job is to setup the kills in group play or learn to exhaust their opponents in one on one. Generally it's a more difficult way to play and their weakness is carries and/or ambushers. Whereas their strengths lie in dealing good damage but without being squishy. They're not about big crits they're about heavy sustainable damage without the spiking. Same goes for mitigating health loss.

Roll sDK, sWar and go with 2h/1h&s setup. Heavy armor, 5-1-1, 7th legion + some ulti gain set + bloodspawn.

+1. I would say stamward takes first prize here. I have a Stamdk with ww hide, 7th (fury can also be used), BS. Tanky as heck but lacks burst outside of the swing/leap or dbos wombo combo. Warden will be better with skalks, swing and dbos by far. That being said next patch will be interesting. Thinking of running the same setup but with 2 heavy 7th legs and chests, 3 medium ww hide- arms, waist and feet and 2 medium bs. 7th 2h and snb backbar. 2 ww hide and 1 7th jewels. Should be much more bursty with medium passives with similar tankiness.