Random resource drain still not fixed.

f047ys3v3n · March 2018

Just so you know ZOS, the random resource drain bug (or is it a secret Wrobel feature) was not fixed Monday (this or any other). I was still getting it tonight some pulls on the final boss in vFH. It is really strange, your resources just seem to drain (in my case it is magica I notice but i hear stam does it to and I would guess health as well) when you arn't even doing anything at maybe 400/sec. Pretty soon you are just going full heavies and the bar actually goes down while they charge.

Anyhow, presuming Wrobel didn't institute some new resource drain because a few players got some light attacks in between those full heavies, it's not fixed.

Ragnarock41 · March 2018

heavy attack online

Skander · March 2018

Secretly nerfing the solo pvp players

Skander · March 2018

Secretly nerfing the solo pvp players

BohnT · March 2018

Ragnarock41 wrote: »

heavy attack online

If i could just get my resources back with those but it's not enough

- Siphoner stacking seems to be back
- skills don't fire and drain resources
- Regen completely stagnates or is jumping up and down while draining more resources than you get (even when not using skills)
- costs of different things vary time to time 3 dodge rolls completely drain my stamina with 5 pc medium in one case and only by 30% in other occasions
- poisons applying to everything seems to be enabled again (sprint, dodge, block, bash, break free and skills ofc)

itsfatbass · March 2018

Neither was the invisible player bug. There have been MULTIPLE instances of trial and dungeon members still being completely invisible to the rest of the group.

SmellyUnlimited · March 2018

There is no resource drain bug. I asked both my guilds and described it exactly; not a single person i’ve spoken to has experienced what you state.

boombazookajd · March 2018

SmellyUnlimited wrote: »

There is no resource drain bug. I asked both my guilds and described it exactly; not a single person i’ve spoken to has experienced what you state.

Oh well, then I guess we are all just nuts because yes, I can back what the OP is experiencing. I have tried several times to sustain my stam during even a stupid target parse and can't get past my third or fourth rotation. I've tried several things, dropping the use of trap, no re-upping FoO or Blade Cloak...I'm still popping pots. This and my regen seems to not even work. I have also noticed skills not firing off but I am still getting the cost, for instance, caltrops not being released but I still get the stam drain.

I'm on xbox so I lack any addons to help any further with any specifics.

AMeanOne · March 2018

It is most definitely real. I have a clip of stam draining while mounted. I had used rapids but my stam was starting to regen, then drain for no reason.

IZZEFlameLash · March 2018

SmellyUnlimited wrote: »

There is no resource drain bug. I asked both my guilds and described it exactly; not a single person i’ve spoken to has experienced what you state.

Your guild is not noticing it then. Probably group sustain might be fine in pve due to all synergies. Those who are experiencing sustain problems with same sustain setups as before which some people ran before DB dropped in preparation to get used to it. This is like other DB patch all over again because I remember this also being an issue when that thing dropped also.

f047ys3v3n · March 2018

IZZESparkling wrote: »

Your guild is not noticing it then. Probably group sustain might be fine in pve due to all synergies. Those who are experiencing sustain problems with same sustain setups as before which some people ran before DB dropped in preparation to get used to it. This is like other DB patch all over again because I remember this also being an issue when that thing dropped also.

That is interesting. ZOS does always like to bring back their greatest hits when it comes to bugs. I don't remember the DB thing, but being primarily a mNB, I had siphoning strikes at that time so could actively manage my resources with an effective skill when facing drain mechanics or, apparently, bugs. Of course Wrobel dislikes effective and/or unique skills so that is gone. Looks like they brought back a lot of bad code once again.

As for the invisible players. Yep, have seen that. It is not fixed.

SmellyUnlimited · March 2018

IZZESparkling wrote: »

SmellyUnlimited wrote: »

There is no resource drain bug. I asked both my guilds and described it exactly; not a single person i’ve spoken to has experienced what you state.

Your guild is not noticing it then. Probably group sustain might be fine in pve due to all synergies. Those who are experiencing sustain problems with same sustain setups as before which some people ran before DB dropped in preparation to get used to it. This is like other DB patch all over again because I remember this also being an issue when that thing dropped also.

Is this a PC issue? I’m on console so that may be the difference. I can say just doing dummy parses my sustain is the same as it’s always been. Or are you saying that in specific instances it’s affected? I’ve done a number of trial runs and parses in the last 3-4 day’s and can say, at least personally, I haven’t had any changes to my sustain. I can only speak for PS4 though. But on PS4 someone in one of my guilds, or I, should have at least come across this bug. As of yesterday, no one had.

AMeanOne · March 2018

I'm on ps4, I'll have to figure out a way to upload the clip on to here from my phone.

IZZEFlameLash · March 2018

SmellyUnlimited wrote: »

IZZESparkling wrote: »

SmellyUnlimited wrote: »

There is no resource drain bug. I asked both my guilds and described it exactly; not a single person i’ve spoken to has experienced what you state.

Your guild is not noticing it then. Probably group sustain might be fine in pve due to all synergies. Those who are experiencing sustain problems with same sustain setups as before which some people ran before DB dropped in preparation to get used to it. This is like other DB patch all over again because I remember this also being an issue when that thing dropped also.

Is this a PC issue? I’m on console so that may be the difference. I can say just doing dummy parses my sustain is the same as it’s always been. Or are you saying that in specific instances it’s affected? I’ve done a number of trial runs and parses in the last 3-4 day’s and can say, at least personally, I haven’t had any changes to my sustain. I can only speak for PS4 though. But on PS4 someone in one of my guilds, or I, should have at least come across this bug. As of yesterday, no one had.

This is not platform specific issue if you have followed previous posts and another thread.

boombazookajd · March 2018

I have experienced this today, again. Invisible group mates in dungeons and I cannot sustain.

It is as if I am not recovering stamina AT ALL.

Leandor · March 2018

This bug is a really strange one. I sometimes get this in BGs, no matter how much I pot or heavy attack, my resources run out with just a few casts. The funny thing is, if that happens, I quit the game, restart the computer, log back in and it's gone.

Sometimes its enough to change the BG pool by skipping one or two ready checks. I am looking forward to how long it takes to fix this because I can't for the love of logic find any common denominator on why it happens.

Someone suggested bugged siphoner star, but that is (or should be) disabled in BGs, so no. Maybe cost increase poisons stack, but why does it repeat itself against different opponents but disappears if I wait the a.m. 20 minutes to requeue, even against same opponents?

That one must be a programmer's nightmare...

f047ys3v3n · March 2018

The sustain bug is not all the time. It comes and goes. You will have it for a bit and then not have it for a bit. Dying seems to remove it I have noticed though.

Gnortranermara · March 2018

I can confirm the same bug. Doing nothing but Blockade + Spear + 2 Lightning Heavies, I am running out of resources and they continue to drain during heavy attacks. It's not all the time but happens episodically.

SmellyUnlimited · April 2018

I just wanted to update and confirm that at first I didn’t think this was a real thing, But now I’m confident there is something wrong.

When I posted above, Dragonbones had been release on PC, but not yet on console. After DB launched, though, this started to become very apparent.

I conducted a few dummy tests to see if what I was “feeling” was actually valid. (I’m going to video and link to forums). I tried tests of heavy attacks resource return. I tried one with 0 points into Tenacity, and one with 100 points in (stamina regen was kept consistent for both tests).

The test all but confirmed what I was experiencing. The resource return from Tenacity was not fully applying to my heavy attack resource gain. The cp gain made a difference, but an almost neglible unnoticeable amount. So in essence, any points I had in Tenacity seemed to be almost worthless.

Now there may be something with regen but I haven’t tested that yet (using different food and different cp allocations). I suspect whatever is blunting the resource sustain from heavy attacks is also in play on regen. In fact, the problem I think may lie in whatever conversion that is supposed to occur when returning resources, regardless of the modality (tenacity, regen, synergy). The one that did not seem affected in gaining resources was when I used Dark Deal. However, it’s moot because whatever stamina I received was wasted away almost immediately.

getemshauna · April 2018

I agree, few days ago stamina was drained on my tank when standing still and waiting for my party members. It doesn't happen very often but still - bug surely exists and should be fixed ASAP.

itsfatbass · April 2018

Some very strange things were happening today with my magicka bar. Was on a stamina toon sitting still not in combat and it kept toggling between 19k max and my normal 10k. It flipped like this a few times then after it stayed settled on the usual max amount, it started ticking downward, around 8% a server tick. I wish I would have been streaming at the time because it was totally whack.