How did "tea bagging" a character get started and why do people think it's funny?

PrayingSeraph · April 2018

Knowledge wrote: »

When people tea bag me it hurts my feelings. I am a very sensitive person and I would like it if people would stop doing this to me. It makes me feel like I am being bullied.

Sometimes I will whisper the offender but then they just laugh at me.

Train yourself to not feel hurt and not get bothered. Strengthen yourself

Being too sensitive is a hard trait to have, and the world wont cater to it. You can't control how others act, but you can control how you react.

Knowledge · April 2018

PrayingSeraph wrote: »

Knowledge wrote: »

When people tea bag me it hurts my feelings. I am a very sensitive person and I would like it if people would stop doing this to me. It makes me feel like I am being bullied.

Sometimes I will whisper the offender but then they just laugh at me.

Train yourself to not feel hurt and not get bothered. Strengthen yourself

Being too sensitive is a hard trait to have, and the world wont cater to it. You can't control how others act, but you can control how you react.

It's easier said than done. You have to feel how I feel, it's different for everyone. I understand your reasoning but after being tea bagged I just want to be in a safe place or stop PVPing for some time.

AlienatedGoat · April 2018

Knowledge wrote: »

Phage wrote: »

Knowledge wrote: »

When people tea bag me it hurts my feelings. I am a very sensitive person and I would like it if people would stop doing this to me. It makes me feel like I am being bullied.

Sometimes I will whisper the offender but then they just laugh at me.

Yeah, I kind of already knew this based on some of your responses in other threads.

The general rule of thumb when dealing with trolls: do the opposite of what you would usually do.

So if you would usually message the person and let them know it bothers you, don't do that. The troll is looking for that satisfaction, and they view it as positive feedback, encouraging them to troll further.

Remember, if someone is doing something explicitly ingame to hurt your feelings, most of the time it's either a troll or an arsehole.

Doesn't matter which, the same advice goes: don't feed them. Ignore, and move on.

Sometimes it's not just one individual but a group of individuals that begin tea bagging me if I am killed. I really get upset when this happens.

Same thing goes. If it bothers you, your best recourse is to pretend they don't exist, throw on ignore if it helps, and just keep on keeping on. Personally, I'd just laugh it off and act the exact opposite of what they're expecting.

Sidenote: If it's a zerg doing it, remember that they have fragile zergling egos, and they don't like it when you insinuate that career zerging 1vX takes no skill. Career zerglings are super open to countertrolling if you so desire and have the skill to do so.

Nothing embarasses them more or makes them rage harder than inviting them to a 1v1 and then destroying them, and then using a classy emote like /shovel or /pray instead of their beloved Tbag.

Knowledge · April 2018

Phage wrote: »

Knowledge wrote: »

Phage wrote: »

Knowledge wrote: »

When people tea bag me it hurts my feelings. I am a very sensitive person and I would like it if people would stop doing this to me. It makes me feel like I am being bullied.

Sometimes I will whisper the offender but then they just laugh at me.

Yeah, I kind of already knew this based on some of your responses in other threads.

The general rule of thumb when dealing with trolls: do the opposite of what you would usually do.

So if you would usually message the person and let them know it bothers you, don't do that. The troll is looking for that satisfaction, and they view it as positive feedback, encouraging them to troll further.

Remember, if someone is doing something explicitly ingame to hurt your feelings, most of the time it's either a troll or an arsehole.

Doesn't matter which, the same advice goes: don't feed them. Ignore, and move on.

Sometimes it's not just one individual but a group of individuals that begin tea bagging me if I am killed. I really get upset when this happens.

Same thing goes. If it bothers you, your best recourse is to pretend they don't exist, throw on ignore if it helps, and just keep on keeping on. Personally, I'd just laugh it off and act the exact opposite of what they're expecting.

Sidenote: If it's a zerg doing it, remember that they have fragile zergling egos, and they don't like it when you insinuate that career zerging 1vX takes no skill. Career zerglings are super open to countertrolling if you so desire and have the skill to do so.

Nothing embarasses them more or makes them rage harder than inviting them to a 1v1 and then destroying them, and then using a classy emote like /shovel or /pray instead of their beloved Tbag.

Thank you for your words of Wisdom, Phage. You should become a therapist.

PrayingSeraph · April 2018

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

Where does it come from ? I don't know, Internet and many people mention CounterStrike. It's not ESO specific, it's part of video gaming culture - which doesn't make it any more OK whatsoever.

Why teabagging and not some funny /sweep or /bucket emote ? Because it's sexual. Somehow some people think that anything sexual is fancy, spicy and cool. Look at advertising, magazines, etc. I believe that the less people actually "practice" sex in the real lives; the more they feel the need to pretend they're having a lot of it and are totally at ease with it. Experience shows that it's totally the opposite : people happy their sex lives keep it where it belongs : to their private lives and shared with a few chosen ones. Also, some people seem to think that "sex" is transgression. There's nothing more mainstream and widely shown as sex nowadays, but somehow they think it proves they have "cojones". Don't ask me why...

And why do they think it's funny ? because it's mean. Some people (and not so few of them) nowadays seems to think that hurting people - or at least trying to - is soooo fun and cool. Don't ask me why though, I don't get that either.

I totally ignore it ingame - else I'd never set foot in Cyrodiil. But admittedly, there's far less Teabagging in PC/EU than in PC/NA. Is it that big of a deal ? I don't know. Maybe not. Maybe yes. Maybe it shouldn't. Maybe it should. Sure, there are far more important issues in life to deal with. But still... it reveals the very dark side of [some] people.

They don't teabag because they think the person will be hurt. That would be ineffective if you were right as teabagging doesnt emotion hurt most players, but rather its a gloat\taunt they find funny, and if someone gets triggered at them for it, it makes it funny and amusing.

anitajoneb17_ESO · April 2018

PrayingSeraph wrote: »

Train yourself to not feel hurt and not get bothered. Strengthen yourself

Being too sensitive is a hard trait to have, and the world wont cater to it. You can't control how others act, but you can control how you react.

Wow this is getting much too far.

Advising someone to get a thick skin (aka "being indifferent") in a video game is one thing.

Telling them to do it in general (aka "in real life") is so ungrateful. Sensitive people save the world.

PrayingSeraph · April 2018

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

PrayingSeraph wrote: »

Train yourself to not feel hurt and not get bothered. Strengthen yourself

Being too sensitive is a hard trait to have, and the world wont cater to it. You can't control how others act, but you can control how you react.

Wow this is getting much too far.

Advising someone to get a thick skin (aka "being indifferent") is one thing.

Telling them to do it in general (aka "in real life") is so ungrateful. Sensitive people save the world.

Total nonsense. Being too sensitive is a weakness, that's the truth. Not being able to handle the pettiest of things is not a strength.

NickStern · April 2018

It is ignorant child like morons that know IRL they could never do it as they would get their asses kicked. So hidden behind a monitor they are free to act like fools.

Knowledge · April 2018

PrayingSeraph wrote: »

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

PrayingSeraph wrote: »

Train yourself to not feel hurt and not get bothered. Strengthen yourself

Being too sensitive is a hard trait to have, and the world wont cater to it. You can't control how others act, but you can control how you react.

Wow this is getting much too far.

Advising someone to get a thick skin (aka "being indifferent") is one thing.

Telling them to do it in general (aka "in real life") is so ungrateful. Sensitive people save the world.

Total nonsense. Being too sensitive is a weakness, that's the truth. Not being able to handle the pettiest of things is not a strength.

So I am weak because I am a sensitive person?

You know many highly sensitive people are born that way and it can be a diagnoses?

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/278589.php
https://www.bustle.com/articles/169454-5-reasons-being-a-sensitive-person-doesnt-make-you-weak

anitajoneb17_ESO · April 2018

PrayingSeraph wrote: »

Total nonsense. Being too sensitive is a weakness, that's the truth. Not being able to handle the pettiest of things is not a strength.

That's "your" truth. Probably tainted by too much gaming.
In real life the overwhelming majority of people are nice, good-willed, polite, civil, caring and sensitive. Let's preserve that in order to to let the remaining minority take the power.
You're free to live by your own standards but please refrain from giving it away as "advice".

PrayingSeraph · April 2018

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

PrayingSeraph wrote: »

Total nonsense. Being too sensitive is a weakness, that's the truth. Not being able to handle the pettiest of things is not a strength.

That's "your" truth. Probably tainted by too much gaming.
In real life the overwhelming majority of people are nice, good-willed, polite, civil, caring and sensitive. Let's preserve that in order to to let the remaining minority take the power.
You're free to live by your own standards but please refrain from giving it away as "advice".

Your bleeding heart standards do more harm than good. Truth is the truth, you have not demonstrated how I am wrong. Majority of people are not incredibly sensitive to get emotionally hurt by a character squatting over your dead virtual character's body. They wouldnt view teabagging as "sexual assault" and would look at you funny by the mere suggestion of it. As you are free to make your comments, I am free to make mine.

anitajoneb17_ESO · April 2018

PrayingSeraph wrote: »

They don't teabag because they think the person will be hurt. That would be ineffective if you were right as teabagging doesnt emotion hurt most players, but rather its a gloat\taunt they find funny, and if someone gets triggered at them for it, it makes it funny and amusing.

What a twisted reasoning.
T-baggers are mean people and proud of it. Anything else is blah blah.

I know it's part of a culture. But that culture says "Being nasty is strong, cool and powerful". You could at least stand up to that.

PrayingSeraph · April 2018

Knowledge wrote: »

PrayingSeraph wrote: »

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

PrayingSeraph wrote: »

Train yourself to not feel hurt and not get bothered. Strengthen yourself

Being too sensitive is a hard trait to have, and the world wont cater to it. You can't control how others act, but you can control how you react.

Wow this is getting much too far.

Advising someone to get a thick skin (aka "being indifferent") is one thing.

Telling them to do it in general (aka "in real life") is so ungrateful. Sensitive people save the world.

Total nonsense. Being too sensitive is a weakness, that's the truth. Not being able to handle the pettiest of things is not a strength.

So I am weak because I am a sensitive person?

You know many highly sensitive people are born that way and it can be a diagnoses?

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/278589.php
https://www.bustle.com/articles/169454-5-reasons-being-a-sensitive-person-doesnt-make-you-weak

I am well aware. But as I said, being too sensitive is a hard trait to have as the world will not cater to you. This is fact. There are indeed some good things about being sensitive, but there are some bad things as well, such as getting hurt over the smallest of things. You shouldnt just let the bad traits be, but improve them and therefor yourself. Again, you can't control how others act, but with practice, you can control how you react. By doing so, you've given yourself more control.

Knowledge · April 2018

PrayingSeraph wrote: »

Knowledge wrote: »

PrayingSeraph wrote: »

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

PrayingSeraph wrote: »

Train yourself to not feel hurt and not get bothered. Strengthen yourself

Being too sensitive is a hard trait to have, and the world wont cater to it. You can't control how others act, but you can control how you react.

Wow this is getting much too far.

Advising someone to get a thick skin (aka "being indifferent") is one thing.

Telling them to do it in general (aka "in real life") is so ungrateful. Sensitive people save the world.

Total nonsense. Being too sensitive is a weakness, that's the truth. Not being able to handle the pettiest of things is not a strength.

So I am weak because I am a sensitive person?

You know many highly sensitive people are born that way and it can be a diagnoses?

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/278589.php
https://www.bustle.com/articles/169454-5-reasons-being-a-sensitive-person-doesnt-make-you-weak

I am well aware. But as I said, being too sensitive is a hard trait to have as the world will not cater to you. This is fact. There are indeed some good things about being sensitive, but there are some bad things as well, such as getting hurt over the smallest of things. You shouldnt just let the bad traits be, but improve them and therefor yourself. Again, you can't control how others act, but with practice, you can control how you react. By doing so, you've given yourself more control.

How I react doesn't change how i feel. I think you're being really insensitive right now and it may be okay to you for other people to hurt others but I won't advocate bullying or hurting others feelings intentionally. It's also quite strange to not only advocate the harm to the person's emotions but to also tell the person you're harming to "shut up and deal with it."

Fur_like_snow · April 2018

The other day I was in 1v1 with this stam warden outside nikel. About 90 seconds into our fight this NB incaps me from stealth and I die. I ress come back and tell the stam warden to hold on I gotta deal with this NB. Pop a stealth detection pot and go looking. Find him a min later and send him packing. But before he released I gave him a couple love bags.

Lesson of the story don't be that guy who breaks up a 1v1.

TequilaFire · April 2018

Makes no sense, if you don't like being tbagged why would you not res and just lay dead letting a whole zerg tbag you?

Getern · April 2018

T-baggin itself was a thing for far past. Its nothing more than exposion of frustration.

In ESO? Well it happend once in a while. But overall ESO use to be game of elites, without bunch of tryhards and kids. Game was overally enjoyable for average and above skill level player. Then DB patch came. Middle of 2016. I mean t-bagging was a thing before, but u almost never seen it. It was just an occasional event when u did. DB patch brought so much cancer to the game its unbelivable. Heavy armor meta, first burst proc sets, resource poisons. Just those were enough to t-bag the user. People got salty, Its all Zenimax'es fault but what can u do. One Tamriel with bigger assortiment of cancer made it even worse. Every patch pushes vet players to the edge. Why do u think ppl become like that, why do they t-bag?

In other 10% its purely personal.

TequilaFire · April 2018

So if tbagging is harassment would using water bucket be considered water torture?
Would using sickened be considered assault by possible infectious disease?
Where does it end? No taunting at all?
Congrats do gooders.

Zorgon_The_Revenged · April 2018

Khajiit "....and that's what they do, no leaves involved. This one was also confused."

Bosmer "Oh, that's wonderful news. It sounded horrible, looks like meats back on the menu."

Inhuman003 · April 2018

If you ever been competitive in sports you understand what tea bagging is all about it's just about being alpha male/female sometimes you just forget yourself in a ranging battle.

DoctorESO · April 2018

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

Where does it come from ? I don't know, Internet and many people mention CounterStrike. It's not ESO specific, it's part of video gaming culture - which doesn't make it any more OK whatsoever.

Why teabagging and not some funny /sweep or /bucket emote ? Because it's sexual. Somehow some people think that anything sexual is fancy, spicy and cool. Look at advertising, magazines, etc. I believe that the less people actually "practice" sex in the real lives; the more they feel the need to pretend they're having a lot of it and are totally at ease with it. Experience shows that it's totally the opposite : people happy their sex lives keep it where it belongs : to their private lives and shared with a few chosen ones. Also, some people seem to think that "sex" is transgression. There's nothing more mainstream and widely shown as sex nowadays, but somehow they think it proves they have "cojones". Don't ask me why...

And why do they think it's funny ? because it's mean. Some people (and not so few of them) nowadays seems to think that hurting people - or at least trying to - is soooo fun and cool. Don't ask me why though, I don't get that either.

I totally ignore it ingame - else I'd never set foot in Cyrodiil. But admittedly, there's far less Teabagging in PC/EU than in PC/NA. Is it that big of a deal ? I don't know. Maybe not. Maybe yes. Maybe it shouldn't. Maybe it should. Sure, there are far more important issues in life to deal with. But still... it reveals the very dark side of [some] people.

I'd give you 10 insightfuls if I could. Thank you. You always make great contributions to this forum. More people should be like you.

DoctorESO · April 2018

NickStern wrote: »

It is ignorant child like morons that know IRL they could never do it as they would get their asses kicked. So hidden behind a monitor they are free to act like fools.

Yes, I can definitely see that.

AbysmalGhul · April 2018

Kalante wrote: »

t bagging is basically the first taunt of online multiplayer games. There, you do not need to think too deep about it.

^ There it is ladies and gentlemen

Azuramoonstar · April 2018

DoctorESO wrote: »

How did "tea bagging" a character get started and why do people think it's funny? It seems very, very peculiar to me.

Why is teabagging "funnier" than /shovel or /sweep? If it's the player's reactions, then why is the reaction so much more severe for "teabagging" than /shovel or /sweep? What is it about teabagging that causes the funniness or the severe reaction?

If it's about expressing dominance, why is teabagging the go-to method of expressing dominance? Why not some other obnoxious maneuver, like /shovel or /sweep? Is the sexual nature of it part of the "dominance" concept (as with nonconsensual sex, which is viewed primarily as a dominance-asserting maneuver)?

it started off in early fps games. There is no reason, people just find it funny. Some stupid fun. there is 0 sexual-ness with tea bagging. it is like asking why "deez nuts" is funny.

the early games was quake and golden eye 007. It was more of a stupid thing because most fps characters were guys in early fps games. And crouching looked so robotic.

im a women, an i have 0 issue with it. I've done it and there is no ill will. It is a simple taunt nothing more. It is like asking why players fight in hockey, or why baseball players taunt each other on the field.

i'm honestly sitting here why in 2018 we are debating on t-bagging. it has been around since the 90s. it seems like that dumb PAX "incident" sparked the sjw community to attacking gaming again.

Azuramoonstar · April 2018

Minyassa wrote: »

Pretty much just emulating behavior online that they would do in real life at parties to passed out friends and take pics. It started with drunk people being trashy.

not true, how people act online isn't how they act offline. I've tbagged my friends in 007 golden eye and in various halo games. offline I'm a nice person who treat everyone with kindness.

real live =/= video games.

Azuramoonstar · April 2018

PrayingSeraph wrote: »

DoctorESO wrote: »

DaveMoeDee wrote: »

I'd never heard of t-bagging before playing ESO, but I find the idea pretty funny. There is a zero percent chance I ever do it to another person. There is also a zero percent chance I care if someone does it to me. I'm not sure if I find it more hilarious that people rage about being tea-bagged or that people feel the need to do it to others.

Can you explain what makes it funny for you?

I don't teabag myself(i dont pvp) but from those I know who do its usually to troll the person who was killed. As per why it started, I would guess it has to do with domination, in other words, dominating the other player metaphorically.

Important aspect about humour is that it is highly variable. I can certainly see the appeal and humour at getting someone worked up over being teabagged. You may not find it funny, but masses of people do. I remember back in Halo 3's golden era players always teabagged all the time. It was pretty much part of the multiplayer.

you got it completely wrong -_-;

it is suppose to be playful taunting. not domination.

usmcjdking · April 2018

It's just a sign of disrespect.

It's not the actual bagging that bothers me so much as it's that some dude/girl who hasn't even ever had to do much more than make a fist their whole life has the audacity to be disrespectful to anyone.

That's what really irks me.

Azuramoonstar · April 2018

usmcjdking wrote: »

It's just a sign of disrespect.

It's not the actual bagging that bothers me so much as it's that some dude/girl who hasn't even ever had to do much more than make a fist their whole life has the audacity to be disrespectful to anyone.

That's what really irks me.

the act itself is not disrespectful, it is enemy taunting. You see it in any competitive sports (taunting).

Ajaxduo · April 2018

TequilaFire wrote: »

No problem let the forum be full of threads that bait and stir up controversy between players.

Gotta get those Agrees on farm.

IndianaGeoff · April 2018

DoctorESO wrote: »

Insightful, thank you. Do "bullies" actually "teabag" people in real life? I would think that such an act would have the opposite effect of increasing their social standing.

Of course not. If you did it in real life the Victim would cease to be a victim and the bully would be a soprano.