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Quick questions about required stats

LittlePinkDot
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So for pvp what would you say is the minimum stats I should have? How much stamina, penetration, and crit chance should I aim for?
Im a stamina toon.
  • Nerftheforums
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    What class, what armor type, what game style, give some detail please
  • LittlePinkDot
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    What class, what armor type, what game style, give some detail please

    Well its my own build im experimenting with in anticiptation for the new dark cloak morph.
    Stamblade dw/snb 5piece medium 2 piece heavy
    Edited by LittlePinkDot on April 21, 2018 5:08AM
  • LittlePinkDot
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    I just need a ballpark estimate really. Ive heard people say you can waste cp by "over penetrating. Ive read someone say 30k stam is still too low for end game.
    DWbar
    1blood craze
    2flying dagger <---major brutality
    3 surprise attack
    4 relentless assault
    5 cloak
    Ult. Incap strike

    SNB bar
    1shuffle
    2 mass hysteria
    3 shadow image
    4 leaching strikes
    5 vigor
    Ult. Dawnbreaker of Smiting.

    Want to use mighty Chudan monster helm set so I can get the same defense as if I were wearing Fortified brass.
    5 piece Draugr Hulk set.
    Then im thinking of pairing it with 5 piece strength to the Automaton.
    Edited by LittlePinkDot on April 21, 2018 4:19PM
  • ezeepeezee
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    Here's my opinion, but I'm not a math-er.

    You want Something like 8-12k penetration. The resistance cap is 32.5k, I think, but few people are hitting that. LA and MA - without buffs or sets - are sitting around ~12k resistances. That means when you hit people that are built for damage, you hit them hard. When you hit tanky players, you shave off 1/3 to 1/2 of their resistance. With surprise attack, a NB has major fracture on spam, so you can build for the remaining penetration through other choices. Fracture poisons, CP, maces, etc etc.

    For stam you'll want 32-35k max stam. It'll be higher if you're doing something like a Redguard with bone pirate.

    For crit rate, if you build for damage you'll tend to sit around I think 35-40%. I prefer to be at 50-60% buffed, but I play Khajiit so that's easier for me. Your crit rate is a factor, but high base damage tends to push that aside in importance because high base damage just makes things easier, since health pools aren't all that big to begin with.

    You'll also want anywhere from 1500-2200 stam regen, depending on how you play it.
  • LittlePinkDot
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    ezeepeezee wrote: »
    Here's my opinion, but I'm not a math-er.

    You want Something like 8-12k penetration. The resistance cap is 32.5k, I think, but few people are hitting that. LA and MA - without buffs or sets - are sitting around ~12k resistances. That means when you hit people that are built for damage, you hit them hard. When you hit tanky players, you shave off 1/3 to 1/2 of their resistance. With surprise attack, a NB has major fracture on spam, so you can build for the remaining penetration through other choices. Fracture poisons, CP, maces, etc etc.

    For stam you'll want 32-35k max stam. It'll be higher if you're doing something like a Redguard with bone pirate.

    For crit rate, if you build for damage you'll tend to sit around I think 35-40%. I prefer to be at 50-60% buffed, but I play Khajiit so that's easier for me. Your crit rate is a factor, but high base damage tends to push that aside in importance because high base damage just makes things easier, since health pools aren't all that big to begin with.

    You'll also want anywhere from 1500-2200 stam regen, depending on how you play it.

    Ah yes the stam regen. Shes a wood elf so the regen is supposw to be easier on her. But when ive seen screenshots of peoples stats on PC it seems like they have everything without giving up anything. I dont understand how they hit the stats they have wearing things like shacklebreaker ect.
    Or even how they get anywhere near 2200 stam regen while wearing all weapon dmg enchants on their jewelry. Ive got like 45 cp into mooncalf so far and all regen stats on jewelry and off the top of my head I think I have 1200 stam regen.
    Theres no cp star that gives straight stamina so I dont know how people reach 35k stam. Thats why Im getting Draugr hulk set to try to hit 30k stam. How much more stam would purple quality give over blue I wonder.
  • ezeepeezee
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    ezeepeezee wrote: »
    Here's my opinion, but I'm not a math-er.

    You want Something like 8-12k penetration. The resistance cap is 32.5k, I think, but few people are hitting that. LA and MA - without buffs or sets - are sitting around ~12k resistances. That means when you hit people that are built for damage, you hit them hard. When you hit tanky players, you shave off 1/3 to 1/2 of their resistance. With surprise attack, a NB has major fracture on spam, so you can build for the remaining penetration through other choices. Fracture poisons, CP, maces, etc etc.

    For stam you'll want 32-35k max stam. It'll be higher if you're doing something like a Redguard with bone pirate.

    For crit rate, if you build for damage you'll tend to sit around I think 35-40%. I prefer to be at 50-60% buffed, but I play Khajiit so that's easier for me. Your crit rate is a factor, but high base damage tends to push that aside in importance because high base damage just makes things easier, since health pools aren't all that big to begin with.

    You'll also want anywhere from 1500-2200 stam regen, depending on how you play it.

    Ah yes the stam regen. Shes a wood elf so the regen is supposw to be easier on her. But when ive seen screenshots of peoples stats on PC it seems like they have everything without giving up anything. I dont understand how they hit the stats they have wearing things like shacklebreaker ect.
    Or even how they get anywhere near 2200 stam regen while wearing all weapon dmg enchants on their jewelry. Ive got like 45 cp into mooncalf so far and all regen stats on jewelry and off the top of my head I think I have 1200 stam regen.
    Theres no cp star that gives straight stamina so I dont know how people reach 35k stam. Thats why Im getting Draugr hulk set to try to hit 30k stam. How much more stam would purple quality give over blue I wonder.

    A lot. The difference between purple and blue when you just subtract blue from purple doesn't seem big, but when you do it for every piece and then multiply it by your racial max stam modifier, it's significant.
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