Psijic Skill "Acceleration" only 3sec?

Avrael · April 2018

I dont know if this is confirmed yet, but on a few websites, including alcasthq.com , the skill "Acceleration" has 2 effects with 2 timers. One is Minor Force with a timer of 12sec, the other one is Major Expedition with a timer of only 3sec. As i said, i dont know if this is true, but if it is, i hope is gets changed right away. Because finally we have a ME Buff for all magicka classes, but then its only 3sec and you have to spam it? ZOS has the chance to make this buff 12sec as well, that would be just great. They give us this buff for movement, so they probably should make it usable too. The 7,5sec on Sorcs Boundless Storm is already really short, but thats way over double the time of what Acceleration would get.

SammyFable · April 2018

What's wrong with just using rapid maneuvers? Gives you 33s of major expidition and even major galopp. So that's perfect to get away.

Avrael · April 2018

Well, because that costs almost all the stamina you have as a magicka class and you cant run after using that, also the buffs go away if you engage combat or use certain skills. So its only a good option for long ranges of completley empty land.

Skander · April 2018

Probably will get more by leveling the skill, to a total of 7 maybe. But you get that for the crit buff let's be honest

Skander · April 2018

SammyFable wrote: »

What's wrong with just using rapid maneuvers? Gives you 33s of major expidition and even major galopp. So that's perfect to get away.

It's a suicide to run in combat with that

Yakidafi · April 2018

Dk: chains
Sorc: boundless
warden: falcon swiftness
nb: double take

Templar only class that do not have it.

I dunno if the major exp is the big thing players will want to use this new skill for.

Avrael · April 2018

Double Take on NB is also pure garbage with its 4sec duration. Who uses that for movement? And for DKs chains you need an enemie, so this is only for combat. Sorc and Warden are the only magicka ones so far that have a reliable free ME Buff. And Wardens is already 10sec, thats amazing.

Minno · April 2018

Yakidafi wrote: »

Dk: chains
Sorc: boundless
warden: falcon swiftness
nb: double take

Templar only class that do not have it.

I dunno if the major exp is the big thing players will want to use this new skill for.

Minor force will be the reason to use it in conjunction with the expedition.

Sadly the morph that gives Sprint reduction is also capped at 3 seconds

. But for 2200 mag, that's better than trying to use speed pots or cast rapids.

Septimus_Magna · April 2018

The other morph has 9s major expedition and 36s Minor Force but its a channeled spell which can be interupted.

So you can have a decent duration of major expedition but it takes some skill to pull it off in combat.

Minno · April 2018

Septimus_Magna wrote: »

The other morph has 9s major expedition and 36s Minor Force but its a channeled spell which can be interupted.

So you can have a decent duration of major expedition but it takes some skill to pull it off in combat.

And you'll get major protection while channeling it. But anything more than 1.3 seconds is way too long in PvP. But hopefully it works better than it sounds.

Septimus_Magna · April 2018

Minno wrote: »

Septimus_Magna wrote: »

The other morph has 9s major expedition and 36s Minor Force but its a channeled spell which can be interupted.

So you can have a decent duration of major expedition but it takes some skill to pull it off in combat.

And you'll get major protection while channeling it. But anything more than 1.3 seconds is way too long in PvP. But hopefully it works better than it sounds.

I think thats a different skill called Meditation. One morph restores more resources per second. The other morph gives major protection while channeling.

A channeled ability isnt ideal but you get two really strong buffs in return. Often its not too hard to LoS so you can get safely cast it.

WuffyCerulei · April 2018

I think the skill's less about having major expedition and more being a source of minor force to magicka dps. Rearming trap requires the dps to be melee, and only 2 builds (melee magplar and melee magDK) can really use it. Stamina dps all use a morph of trap, and thus have a boost to their dps because of the minor force. Most magicka builds are ranged and cannot adicuitly keep minor force up. Lightweight trap is too much of a stam waste to constantly use it.

Dracane · April 2018

The major expedition of this skill is pitiful and makes little sense. 3 seconds ? Just remove it.
I will probably still prefer beast trap for minor force, as it deals more damage.

The other morph of this spell sounds interesting. "lasts 33 seconds, but is a channel" what does that mean ? You channel for 33 seconds ? Makes no sense as well. We shall await the pts before coming to assumptions, shall we ?

TheNuminous1 · April 2018

Dracane wrote: »

The major expedition of this skill is pitiful and makes little sense. 3 seconds ? Just remove it.
I will probably still prefer beast trap for minor force, as it deals more damage.

The other morph of this spell sounds interesting. "lasts 33 seconds, but is a channel" what does that mean ? You channel for 33 seconds ? Makes no sense as well. We shall await the pts before coming to assumptions, shall we ?

i think it means it takes a few seconds to cast.

Septimus_Magna · April 2018

@Dracane You and I both know it will probably be a cast time like Dark Flare or when you summon pets as a sorc. Risk or being interrupted but an useful speed buff duration.

Vaoh · April 2018

@Dracane The base skill gives something like 3sec Major Expedition, 12sec Minor Force. A morph adds a cast time (likely similar to summoning pets) but triples the buff durations. Sounds very useful and probably worth it for top DPS. At the very least it’ll be great in trash fights where you can pre-cast it.

Dracane · April 2018

Septimus_Magna wrote: »

@Dracane You and I both know it will probably be a cast time like Dark Flare or when you summon pets as a sorc. Risk or being interrupted but an useful speed buff duration.

Most likely yes and I would really love that

I would remove boundless storm for this. Would be so nice having such a long speed buff and minor force in pvp, especially reliable with the recent interrupt changes. I'm excited. But then again, only if the speed buff is 30 seconds too.

Minno · April 2018

Septimus_Magna wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

Septimus_Magna wrote: »

The other morph has 9s major expedition and 36s Minor Force but its a channeled spell which can be interupted.

So you can have a decent duration of major expedition but it takes some skill to pull it off in combat.

And you'll get major protection while channeling it. But anything more than 1.3 seconds is way too long in PvP. But hopefully it works better than it sounds.

I think thats a different skill called Meditation. One morph restores more resources per second. The other morph gives major protection while channeling.

A channeled ability isnt ideal but you get two really strong buffs in return. Often its not too hard to LoS so you can get safely cast it.

Nope the major protection is granted by a passive. I have photos of the tooltip lol

Avran_Sylt · April 2018

I keep looking at all the Psijic skills and think to myself: *** this is going to be great on MagNB PvP Ganking.
Huge damned skill cap though.

Lexxypwns · April 2018

It’s 3 seconds because quick cloak and mirage are 3 seconds

Gnortranermara · April 2018

YES. Major Expedition on Acceleration needs to be increased to 6 secs. This gives Templar a magicka-based ME buff option, brings it in line with the other ME buffs available, and can be increased to a respectable 18 seconds with the cast-time morph.

Savos_Saren · April 2018

Major Expedition and you get Major Protection from a passive while using it?!?! My mDK just smirked.

Gnortranermara · April 2018

[Edited to remove stupid]

Subversus · April 2018

Dracane wrote: »

The major expedition of this skill is pitiful and makes little sense. 3 seconds ? Just remove it.
I will probably still prefer beast trap for minor force, as it deals more damage.

The other morph of this spell sounds interesting. "lasts 33 seconds, but is a channel" what does that mean ? You channel for 33 seconds ? Makes no sense as well. We shall await the pts before coming to assumptions, shall we ?

Mirage is 3 seconds as well and quite a lot of people use that morph over the other one for the speed boost. Same as quick cloak.

It’s not that bad, it’s perfectly in line with all the other abilities that offer movement speed. Not to mention that sorcs already have boundless storm for that, so this should 100% be used for the crit damaged, at least on msorc.

Cinbri · April 2018

Mistform is 4sec duration, and it enough to get away. Problem is no root/snare immunity on magicka builds might made this too easily counterable in pvp.

Subversus · April 2018

Cinbri wrote: »

Mistform is 4sec duration, and it enough to get away. Problem is no root/snare immunity on magicka builds might made this too easily counterable in pvp.

This. I don’t see the expedition like a huge change, frankly. It’s mostly the sprint speed and crit damage that make this crazy (especially the sprint speed... Stam Sorcs bout to be craaaaazy)

Dracane · April 2018

Subversus wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

The major expedition of this skill is pitiful and makes little sense. 3 seconds ? Just remove it.
I will probably still prefer beast trap for minor force, as it deals more damage.

The other morph of this spell sounds interesting. "lasts 33 seconds, but is a channel" what does that mean ? You channel for 33 seconds ? Makes no sense as well. We shall await the pts before coming to assumptions, shall we ?

Mirage is 3 seconds as well and quite a lot of people use that morph over the other one for the speed boost. Same as quick cloak.

It’s not that bad, it’s perfectly in line with all the other abilities that offer movement speed. Not to mention that sorcs already have boundless storm for that, so this should 100% be used for the crit damaged, at least on msorc.

@Subversus Because Mirage is only a speed and evasion buff. It's meant for travel and running away. Acceleration however is a DPS ability with minor force and a dps has no use for a pitiful 3 seconds speed buff, a dps can't afford recasting this ability over and over. That's what I'm on about.

Subversus · April 2018

Dracane wrote: »

Subversus wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

The major expedition of this skill is pitiful and makes little sense. 3 seconds ? Just remove it.
I will probably still prefer beast trap for minor force, as it deals more damage.

The other morph of this spell sounds interesting. "lasts 33 seconds, but is a channel" what does that mean ? You channel for 33 seconds ? Makes no sense as well. We shall await the pts before coming to assumptions, shall we ?

Mirage is 3 seconds as well and quite a lot of people use that morph over the other one for the speed boost. Same as quick cloak.

It’s not that bad, it’s perfectly in line with all the other abilities that offer movement speed. Not to mention that sorcs already have boundless storm for that, so this should 100% be used for the crit damaged, at least on msorc.

@Subversus Because Mirage is only a speed and evasion buff. It's meant for travel and running away. Acceleration however is a DPS ability with minor force and a dps has no use for a pitiful 3 seconds speed buff, a dps can't afford recasting this ability over and over. That's what I'm on about.

No reason to remove it though, just leave it as is. If it’s that small an amount then having it on won’t affect balance and will still give the option for people to have a magicka based non-class non-target expedition source.

Dracane · April 2018

Subversus wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

Subversus wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

The major expedition of this skill is pitiful and makes little sense. 3 seconds ? Just remove it.
I will probably still prefer beast trap for minor force, as it deals more damage.

The other morph of this spell sounds interesting. "lasts 33 seconds, but is a channel" what does that mean ? You channel for 33 seconds ? Makes no sense as well. We shall await the pts before coming to assumptions, shall we ?

Mirage is 3 seconds as well and quite a lot of people use that morph over the other one for the speed boost. Same as quick cloak.

It’s not that bad, it’s perfectly in line with all the other abilities that offer movement speed. Not to mention that sorcs already have boundless storm for that, so this should 100% be used for the crit damaged, at least on msorc.

@Subversus Because Mirage is only a speed and evasion buff. It's meant for travel and running away. Acceleration however is a DPS ability with minor force and a dps has no use for a pitiful 3 seconds speed buff, a dps can't afford recasting this ability over and over. That's what I'm on about.

No reason to remove it though, just leave it as is. If it’s that small an amount then having it on won’t affect balance and will still give the option for people to have a magicka based non-class non-target expedition source.

Yes yes....
It's still pitiful

Things that barely exist, must not exist at all, just like Talos

Minno · April 2018

SidewalkChalk5 wrote: »

No, people, you do NOT get Major Protection from this ability. Bad rumor is bad, and a rumor.

(You get it from one morph of Meditate.)

Don't make me post the photo of the passive lol

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO · April 2018

Minno wrote: »

SidewalkChalk5 wrote: »

No, people, you do NOT get Major Protection from this ability. Bad rumor is bad, and a rumor.

(You get it from one morph of Meditate.)

Don't make me post the photo of the passive lol

You wouldn't dare. You better not.