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Should zaan get nerfed?
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Sergykid✭✭✭✭✭
✭all those people saying "just move away lol" like yes when that guy sees his Zaan procs will just stay there like a turret and not constantly stick to hug me. Maybe if during the proc, the caster is slowed by 30%; no change in pve, gives counterplay in pvp.-PC EU- / battlegrounds on my youtube7 -
Aznox✭✭✭✭✭No opinionI think I need a bit more time to answer this.
I initially though it would need to be slightly tuned down, but as time passes I'm more and more inclined to think it's fine, at least in PvP.
Also agree that it should break with LoS more reliably.
Edited by Aznox on April 9, 2018 9:17AMAznox
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ghwaite✭✭✭NoZaan is fine, I rather use Skoria and it is easy enough to counter.Any connection between your reality and mine is purely coincidental.1 -
Patouf✭✭✭YesYes ofc !
Ppl who says "no easy to counter", "no big damage because magicka and melee does not match" !
It is a broken set, it is not used because this is disgrace (and it does not suit with all PvP mode) !
Go duel with this ***, but in open world and BG it is not strong because of the high mobility of players. It is too strong melee boy against melee boy, that's all
Ruined Laggy Broken GameSithis & Psijic OrderSithis and spacetime. From nothing to everything.Dark, Aurbis, Aetherius-Oblivion, Mundus, Nirn, Tamriel. Dark again, something else.Dark is categorical, the absolute zero.VØID1 -
AzraelKrieg✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭NoNo, there are counters. L2PGold Dragons Guildmaster PC-NACR2000+Kalthar Wolf-Brother – EP Templar - 50 Maeli Valen - EP NB - 50Naps-During-Trials – EP Templar - 50Rulnakh - EP Sorc - 50Azrael Krieg - EP NB – 50Uvithasa Telvanni – EP DK – 50More-Tail - EP Warden - 50Narile Galen - EP Sorc - 50Bone Soldier - EP Necro - 50Naps-During-Trails - EP Necro - 501 -
Shadowasrial✭✭✭✭✭
✭YesHalf the time iv seen this set procing thru walls and when your in a zerg you either can’t see it to know to break it before the damage is to much. Solo play is fine iv yet to die from a one on one encounter. But the fact it can go thru walls and sometimes there is no way to see it to break it4 -
Marabornwingrion✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭NoThe question should be: "Should other monster sets be buffed to have similar damage as Zaan?"
Then answer is: yes.3 -
ak_pvp✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭NoNot really. Its poorly implemened IMO. More RNG, and dodgy, hybrid classification/mechanics.
It needs LOS. Since it works like an on target dot, hence elfbane, cloakable, purgable, interracting with it, so isn't broken by targets. It is however blockable, and has range so it is technically partially a beam/channel.MagDK main. PC/EU @AK-ESO
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Azurya✭✭✭✭✭
✭Nothe playersbase is getting sick and tired of all those calls to nerf this and that! pls get thet in your mind!3 -
Patouf✭✭✭YesThe question should be: "Should other monster sets be buffed to have similar damage as Zaan?"
Then answer is: yes.
Noob, L2P.
Proc sets should not exist or just smart and rare sets for group utility, for example.Ruined Laggy Broken GameSithis & Psijic OrderSithis and spacetime. From nothing to everything.Dark, Aurbis, Aetherius-Oblivion, Mundus, Nirn, Tamriel. Dark again, something else.Dark is categorical, the absolute zero.VØID2 -
Joshlenoir✭✭✭✭YesThe average zaans death recap I have regardless of heavy to medium armor, is 10-20k from 4-6 ticks.
Zaans hits harder than any monster set in the game and hits harder than most ultimates.
Anyone saying "just move away" has no idea how difficult it is considering the fact zaans doesn't affect global cooldown and allows you to cast while it is active, and any player with a working frontal cortex will hold down W and stick to you like glue.
Second of all it has a considerable range and more often than not you'll be snared by something before it procs.
Any player who tries to defend zaans is either getting hard carried by it or rarely encounters it in PvP due to not actually PvPing or constantly being surrounded by 20 people.Edited by Joshlenoir on April 16, 2018 10:58AM1 -
Avran_Sylt✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭No opinionCurrently Impartial, but just looking at the set itself, the 10m range may be a bit much. 8m might be more manageable.0 -
Tan9oSuccka✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭YesI encountered it in Cyrodiil for only the first time yesterday -- because I've been inactive in PVP for a while. There was no visual effect so I was surprised I died when I did.
I'm not sure if it's common for its effect to bug.
I’ve only been hit with it once. No audio or visual cue.
18K proc on my tanky DK. Seems a little overturned....but my gripe is nothing showed it happening.0 -
The_Brosteen✭✭✭✭✭NoI feel like the pve crowd would loose their minds over the idea of nerfing this as far as damage goes, just because it would be another one of those talking points of "stop nerfing things in pve for the sake of pvp.
This is one of those sets that CAN be countered in a 1v1 in pvp, but it's really brutal trying to fight multiple people if it gets on you. If you feel like you gotta use it to be effective in pvp then I suppose that's a method, do what you gotta do.
They need to fix it so it breaks properly with los. That would help quite a bit.0 -
josiahva✭✭✭✭✭
✭NoIts not that hard to counter...roll dodging twice generally does it...maybe pop an invis pot if whoever is using it has a gap closer...or alternatively, block and heal...generally Skoria will kill you in PvP more often0 -
Sky_WK✭✭✭✭NoI vote no, but I do wish it could be LOSed. Sure it gets nerfed anyways since so many bads cried about it.i do not read replies. still playing stamdk for some reason.0 -
Kanar✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yesusmcjdking wrote: »Zaan and Caalurion's being brought into the game barely 8 months after ZOS got done gutting proc sets with the heartfelt "developer comment" is a laughably poor attempt at making me think they genuinely give a crap about the game experience.
Agreed. ZoS has zero direction now. They nerf proc sets cause they're OP, and then turn around and release more OP proc sets. It's like this with other changes to.0 -
Hurtfan✭✭✭✭✭NoNo, I just got a set of Zaan shoulders this weekend. Need the helm to try it out. Want to give it a whirl before any nerfing goes on.
Additionally, I've gotten killed by it only 3 times, no nerf needed. I play a magsorc and all 3 times I was rooted.For the Pact!Keyboard not found, press any key to continue0 -
N00BxV1✭✭✭✭✭
✭"I don't care about PVE PVP because PVP PVE is the real endgame."
PVE and PVP are completely different beasts so they should be treated as such and balanced separately...
In PVE I like to see procs killing all the things because it makes me feel more powerful, but in PVP I hate to be killed by someone's procs because it just feels unfair.
So I think Zaan or any other set that has a damage proc is fine for PVE, but in PVP should be altered to give stats or something and not be where most of your damage comes from.0
