Useless Dungeon Finder yet again

fred4 · April 2018

I rarely use this. Every time I do, I am reminded of it's problems yet again. Today I queued for a random VET and got dropped into vROM with the following group composition:

1x CP720 tank (me)
1x CP190
1x CP270

The 4th person had already left when I spawned in the dungeon. I also left.

I always end up talking to imaginary ZOS in these posts. So here goes: ZOS there is a reason why two of us just left. I have no experience with this dungeon. Done it on normal and still can't wrap my head around the mechanics of the final fight. Not that it matters on normal. It's the typical case of you don't learn anything on normal, because nothing is enough of a threat that you actually learn what mechanics are important, and what's just smoke and mirrors. Also Gilliam the Rogue's YouTube video from a while ago is ringing in my ears. Something along the lines of multiple random mechanics stacking on top of each other in the final fight that cause even him to regularly die with PuGs. The low CP players, and guy who already left, were merely icing on the cake. I would not have attempted that dungeon with my current knowledge anyway.

It's stupid to be subsequently locked out of the Dungeon Finder.

ZiRM · April 2018

Sounds like a predicament.

fred4 · April 2018

I just want to clarify somthing, lest I come across as lazy. I am a PvPer. I decided to do some PvE tanking for a change, but I'm only starting with that. Yeah, I could make more of an effort, but if I was to use the Random Dugeon Finder, that would mean reading up on the mechanics of every DLC dungeon that it might drop me into. I just wanted to relax with a moderate challenge. Yeah, there are other ways to do that. Whatever. Still highlights that the Dugeon Finder is such a crude tool that's suitable for ... what exactly? As a tank, at least, I get a dungeon straight away, yet it still turns out that the tool has nothing but problems.

Aleris · April 2018

So you want all cp2k to run a vet dungeon? Cp 270 is not low, with prop pre planning and player skill i’m pretty sure any vet dungeon can be done with that cp.. once i queued for a vet dungeon and i got kicked just because i had “only “170 cp, and no it was not a dlc dungeon, well that’s really stupid for example. Instead of leaving you should have stayed and helped those guys to do the dungeon

What i don’t like instead is that they should put the dungeons vets selection under the normal ones and not above.. just to save the frustration to wipe on last boss when the super low cp tank ( 40, yes thats low not 270) says “ oh is this vet? Sorry i thought it was normal”

phaneub17_ESO · April 2018

I choose not to be part of ESO Plus to avoid the DLC dungeons in my random rotation, it's actually the only deterrent from getting it. With 5 tanks and 5 healers, I don't welcome the increased difficulty with random groups. Just suck it up, wait for the ESO Plus Trial to get rid of my hoarding into the crafting bag, farm my butt off, and avoid random dungeons during that time.

fred4 · April 2018

Aleris wrote: »

So you want all cp2k to run a vet dungeon? Cp 270 is not low, with prop pre planning and player skill i’m pretty sure any vet dungeon can be done with that cp.. once i queued for a vet dungeon and i got kicked just because i had “only “170 cp, and no it was not a dlc dungeon, well that’s really stupid for example. Instead of leaving you should have stayed and helped those guys to do the dungeon.

I know my limitations. I could not have helped the guys to complete that dungeon. We would have failed, not least because of myself. This dungeon being DLC, and renowned as one of the hardest ones, is exactly the point. It would help if the random Dungeon Finder could be limited to non-DLC.

Motherball · April 2018

Forgive my ignorance, but are the random rewards really worth it? If you want to avoid certain dungeons, why not just queue for specifics and leave those few unchecked?