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Hello friends of tamriel,

i heard to successfully get enough gold to pay for bids every week you need to make guild raffles. Can somebody explain me how exactly this works? Are any special addons needed for that?

Thanks!
  • PocketAces13xb
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    yeah you need to uninstall the game then install the raffle helper add-on then reinstall. that helps you steal all of the guild's gold. since that is what your intention seems to be judging by your recent posts
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  • Juju_beans
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    Hello friends of tamriel,

    i heard to successfully get enough gold to pay for bids every week you need to make guild raffles. Can somebody explain me how exactly this works? Are any special addons needed for that?

    Thanks!

    I suggest you join a trade guild to learn how it works.

  • DeadlyRecluse
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    In the amount of time you've spent trying to figure out a workable scam, you could have farmed up a ton of gold legitimately.
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  • Mic1007
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    yeah you need to uninstall the game then install the raffle helper add-on then reinstall. that helps you steal all of the guild's gold. since that is what your intention seems to be judging by your recent posts

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  • sylviermoone
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    You seem to be having some trouble understanding how the basic economy works...

    Trader bids for prime locations (capital cities) can run from 3-8 million gold weekly normally. Sometimes this is MUCH higher due to bidding wars or content releases.

    So, let's just say your guild is bidding 7 million weekly for your location. Taxes generated from sales are 3.5%. To cover a 7 million gold bid, the guild would need to sell 200,000,000 worth of goods. Yes, that is TWO HUNDRED MILLION. There is only one guild that I know of that even comes CLOSE to those kinds of sales on PC-NA.

    So, let's say that your guild is a more moderately selling guild for your area, and you did 60 Million in sales for the week. That means your guild raised 2.1 MILLION gold in taxes.

    BUT WAIT!!! You need to bid closer to 7 MILLION to have a chance at winning your kiosk, provided that no other guild decides they want that spot this week!!! You have a 5 MILLION gold shortfall, and that gold has to come from somewhere, or you need to bid in a cheaper location (which will likely mean a loss of members).

    This is why guilds run raffles and auctions. Do you HAVE to run a raffle? No, there are other ways to fundraise, for sure, but NO serious trading guild meets it's bid amounts through taxes alone. EVERY SINGLE serious trading guild must do SOME sort of fundraising, or they will fail to stay a serious trading guild. Most guilds do their fundraising through raffles and auctions.

    A SERIOUS trade guild runs more like a non-profit business. I think of my guild more like NPR; where the taxes earned are like the government funding, but we still have to do pledge drives weekly to pay for the content (trading location) that we want as a community.

    If you want to know more about guild auctions and raffles, I stream my guild's fundraising events every weekend starting at 9 PM Eastern. twitch.tv/sylviermooone.
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  • Smokewood
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    Worse trade system I have ever seen in an MMORPG....

    Needs a complete overhaul.
  • DRAGON_KILLER_HUNTER
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    How do i do auctions or raffles?
  • thedude33
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    Smokewood wrote: »
    Worse trade system I have ever seen in an MMORPG....

    Needs a complete overhaul.

    Gotta agree. I'm not sure what the point of the current system is. Usually for most things you can see both the good and the bad. I can see nothing good with this system ..and a whole lotta bad.
  • PlagueSD
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    I have to agree with the others in this thread.

    Based on the previous posts created by you, you're just looking for ways of scamming players out of gold.

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    Edited by PlagueSD on April 6, 2018 9:23PM
  • sylviermoone
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    thedude33 wrote: »
    Smokewood wrote: »
    Worse trade system I have ever seen in an MMORPG....

    Needs a complete overhaul.

    Gotta agree. I'm not sure what the point of the current system is. Usually for most things you can see both the good and the bad. I can see nothing good with this system ..and a whole lotta bad.

    I'm just going to put this response I made in a different thread right here.....
    The system plays a vital role in the ESO economy. The competition derived from trade guilds trying to move up to better locations coupled with the blind bid process acts as THE SINGLE biggest gold sink in the game.

    Gold sinks are crucial in a game where gold basically comes out of thin air. Without them, the prices of goods would continue on an upward trajectory as the value of a gold piece drops. While there has been some fluctuation since the kiosk system was introduced, the value of most things has stayed pretty constant, at least in PC land. This is a DIRECT result of efficient gold sinks.

    I can not speak on information across all platforms, but I would estimate roughly 150 MILLION GOLD is being sunk every week in capital city bids ALONE on PC-NA. I'm talking Wayrest, Elden Root, Mournhold, Rawl'kha. This is massive, and no conversation about alternatives to the guild system that I've seen takes this into account.

    The competition that creates this effective gold sink is DIRECTLY related to the blind bid process. Is it stressful? Yes. Trade Guild GM's are not lying when they say this is the single most stressful part of running a guild, but it is such a crucial piece of the overall health of the economy.

    Most of the gold sinks currently in ESO are one-and-done sort of gold sinks.
    - Horse training: Once you've maxed out your horse, you no longer participate in this gold sink. Total cost to max out a horse: 45K
    - Bag Space Upgrades: Once your bag is fully upgraded, you no longer participate in this gold sink. Total cost to max out bag space: 38,500 per character. For the standard 8 characters: 308K.
    - Bank Upgrades: Once your bank is fully upgraded, ....well, I'm sure you get the point. Total cost to upgrade your bank fully: 768,500. This is a once PER ACCOUNT sink.

    Housing: While there are many that have bought multiple homes, I'm sure there are also those that buy a home or two and then no longer participate in that gold sink. There are also people that don't participate in the Outfit system, either, and thus are not participating in that gold sink.

    There are definitely ways that the functionality of the Guild Trader system could be improved. The search functionality of Awesome Guild Store and Advanced Filters should be a part of the base UI. Console Guild Leaders have a really hard time, as they don't have access to Master Merchant to check sales information for their guilds. They have access to the same information through the guild history, but Master Merchant gathers it and displays it nicely for PC GM's *cough cough PC master race cough cough*. And yes, I can absolutely understand that people don't want to spend all damn day running around looking for a gold Ring of Vicous Money Making, or whatever.

    I suggest that we start by enhancing the system we have, by including search features in the guild stores, by giving GM's better tools by which to manage their guilds, and by potentially even adding a bulletin board in the main city of each zone where a player could go to check what is listed in that zone. These changes would allow for greater functionality of the Guild Trader system while preserving the spirit in which the system was created: to act as a massive gold sink to keep inflation levels low in the ESO economy.

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  • Gargath
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    It's not illuminati but real life, guilds in ESO work hand by hand as big syndicates. They are like mafia or a network, so they can overbid the best locations week by week. Smaller guilds have almost no chance.
    Edited by Gargath on April 6, 2018 9:00PM
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  • Jhalin
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    Gargath wrote: »
    It's not illuminati but real life, guilds in ESO work hand by hand as big syndicates. They are like mafia or a network, so they can overbid the best locations week by week. Smaller guilds have almost no chance.

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  • Kiralyn2000
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    thedude33 wrote: »
    Smokewood wrote: »
    Worse trade system I have ever seen in an MMORPG....

    Needs a complete overhaul.

    Gotta agree. I'm not sure what the point of the current system is.

    That would be the massive gold sink.
    Edited by Kiralyn2000 on April 6, 2018 9:18PM
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