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Argonian nightblade Potion build coming back hmmmm
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Oh good....This is going to be real interesting.
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arkansas_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭@Xsorus Was there some sort of potion buff in the PTS notes that I missed?ＦＯＲＵＭＰＬＡＲ
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Feanor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Infused jewelry with potion cool down reduction glyphs.Main characters: Feanor the Believer - AD Altmer mSorc - AR 50 - Flawless Conqueror (PC EU)Idril Arnanor - AD Altmer mSorc - CP 217 - Stormproof (PC NA)Other characters:Necrophilius Killgood - DC Imperial NecromancerFearscales - AD Argonian Templar - Stormproof (healer)Draco Imperialis - AD Imperial DK (tank)Cabed Naearamarth - AD Dunmer mDKValirion Willowthorne - AD Bosmer stamBladeTuruna - AD Altmer magBladeKheled Zaram - AD Redguard stamDKKibil Nala - AD Redguard stamSorc - StormproofYavanna Kémentárí - AD Breton magWardenAzog gro-Ghâsh - EP Orc stamWardenVidar Drakenblød - DC Nord mDKMarquis de Peyrac - DC Breton mSorc - StormproofRawlith Khaj'ra - AD Khajiit stamWardenTu'waccah - AD Redguard StamplarAll chars 50 @ CP 1900+. Playing and enjoying PvP with RdK mostly on PC EU.0 -
Subversus✭✭✭✭✭
✭Alchemist + julianos + willpower staff frontbar + skoria. 5-2 heavy, all infused potion reduction on jewelry. Tristat pot on steroids or like lingering speed tristat pot every like 20-30 seconds. Oh boy0 -
lazerlaz✭✭✭Argonian nb is already awesome. Ain't a comeback for me. Argonian4life! But I think there will be better glyphs to run as an Argonian NB.0
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Qbiken✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Alchemist + julianos + willpower staff frontbar + skoria. 5-2 heavy, all infused potion reduction on jewelry. Tristat pot on steroids or like lingering speed tristat pot every like 20-30 seconds. Oh boy
Assumtions:
-We assume we´ve all alchemy passives
-Resourceful passive: Gives 4620 HP, stam and mag whenever we use a potion.
-We´re in combat and use a potion on cooldown (not realistic but just for the example)
-Using any random trashpot of any kinda
Setup 1: 3 Jewellery with arcane trait + spelldamage glyph
- CA gives you 653 spell and weapon-damage for 15 seconds (45 second cooldown) --> 217 effective spell/weapon damage
- Glyphs gives you 174x3 --> 522 spelldamage
- Together we´ve an effective spelldamage of 739.
- Resourceful nets a minimum of 102 HP, stam and mag-regen.
Setup 2: 3 Jewellery with infused trait + potion cooldown glyphs
- CA gives 653 spell and weapon-damage for 15 seconds (21 seconds cooldown with the infused trait) --> 455 effective spell/weapon damage
- Resourceful nets a minimum of 220 HP, stam and mag-regen.
So basically we trade 284 spell-damage for a minimum of 118 HP, stam and mag-regen. In reality the trade is a higher, but I don´t have the number of how much a tripot gives you. Lingering pots gives us major vitality for 15 seconds which is a powerful buff, so having a 71% uptime on that is very strong on an Argonian.
The build idea is cool, but if big if) I did my maths correctly, I´m not so sure I think the trade-offs are worth it tbh.
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Subversus✭✭✭✭✭
✭Alchemist + julianos + willpower staff frontbar + skoria. 5-2 heavy, all infused potion reduction on jewelry. Tristat pot on steroids or like lingering speed tristat pot every like 20-30 seconds. Oh boy
Assumtions:
-We assume we´ve all alchemy passives
-Resourceful passive: Gives 4620 HP, stam and mag whenever we use a potion.
-We´re in combat and use a potion on cooldown (not realistic but just for the example)
-Using any random trashpot of any kinda
Setup 1: 3 Jewellery with arcane trait + spelldamage glyph
- CA gives you 653 spell and weapon-damage for 15 seconds (45 second cooldown) --> 217 effective spell/weapon damage
- Glyphs gives you 174x3 --> 522 spelldamage
- Together we´ve an effective spelldamage of 739.
- Resourceful nets a minimum of 102 HP, stam and mag-regen.
Setup 2: 3 Jewellery with infused trait + potion cooldown glyphs
- CA gives 653 spell and weapon-damage for 15 seconds (21 seconds cooldown with the infused trait) --> 455 effective spell/weapon damage
- Resourceful nets a minimum of 220 HP, stam and mag-regen.
So basically we trade 284 spell-damage for a minimum of 118 HP, stam and mag-regen. In reality the trade is a higher, but I don´t have the number of how much a tripot gives you. Lingering pots gives us major vitality for 15 seconds which is a powerful buff, so having a 71% uptime on that is very strong on an Argonian.
The build idea is cool, but if big if) I did my maths correctly, I´m not so sure I think the trade-offs are worth it tbh.
Well I already play/played with alch+war maiden on my magblade, and I’ll 100% swap maiden for juli next patch. Question remains if I’ll go with pot cd reduction for more alch + lingering uptime or just go back to 3 dmg glyphs.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I'd play Immo pots. Almost 50% uptime on complete CC immunity sounds awesome (and maddening for your opponents).Main characters: Feanor the Believer - AD Altmer mSorc - AR 50 - Flawless Conqueror (PC EU)Idril Arnanor - AD Altmer mSorc - CP 217 - Stormproof (PC NA)Other characters:Necrophilius Killgood - DC Imperial NecromancerFearscales - AD Argonian Templar - Stormproof (healer)Draco Imperialis - AD Imperial DK (tank)Cabed Naearamarth - AD Dunmer mDKValirion Willowthorne - AD Bosmer stamBladeTuruna - AD Altmer magBladeKheled Zaram - AD Redguard stamDKKibil Nala - AD Redguard stamSorc - StormproofYavanna Kémentárí - AD Breton magWardenAzog gro-Ghâsh - EP Orc stamWardenVidar Drakenblød - DC Nord mDKMarquis de Peyrac - DC Breton mSorc - StormproofRawlith Khaj'ra - AD Khajiit stamWardenTu'waccah - AD Redguard StamplarAll chars 50 @ CP 1900+. Playing and enjoying PvP with RdK mostly on PC EU.0 -
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✭The cool things is you can have potion 2bonus at the same time.- combat enter : you use PvE potion : major prophecy, major intellect and major sorcellery.
- 21s after you use a lingenring + speed potion. (Potion 1 has 24+s buffs).
- 21s after you use your first potion and refresh buff 1 for 45s.
- 21s after you use your lingering potion, the first one have 24s + time
- repeat.
This is very cool.
Edited by Aedaryl on April 4, 2018 2:30PM0 -
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✭✭Alchemist + julianos + willpower staff frontbar + skoria. 5-2 heavy, all infused potion reduction on jewelry. Tristat pot on steroids or like lingering speed tristat pot every like 20-30 seconds. Oh boy
Better use Necropotence with the new shade there is no excuse to not have the necro bonus all the time.
Guess i'll go back to my argonian meele magnb:
Get ready for some 25k will procs my be loved big boss
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Subversus✭✭✭✭✭
✭Alchemist + julianos + willpower staff frontbar + skoria. 5-2 heavy, all infused potion reduction on jewelry. Tristat pot on steroids or like lingering speed tristat pot every like 20-30 seconds. Oh boy
Better use Necropotence with the new shade there is no excuse to not have the necro bonus all the time.
Guess i'll go back to my argonian meele magnb:
Get ready for some 25k will procs my be loved big boss
I don’t actually run shade on my heavy armor builds, I run mist. I haven’t played them in a few weeks though, I am mostly playing light armor now. With light I agree that necro is BiS next patch due to shade, especially now that we can do necro/shackle/skoria
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✭✭The Argonian Nightblade tank build that Gilliam the rogue has is already a potions are your sustain build. Enchants on jewelry are already reduced potion cooldown.
Imagine how much more ridiculous it will be with infused, lol.0 -
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✭✭Alchemist + julianos + willpower staff frontbar + skoria. 5-2 heavy, all infused potion reduction on jewelry. Tristat pot on steroids or like lingering speed tristat pot every like 20-30 seconds. Oh boy
Better use Necropotence with the new shade there is no excuse to not have the necro bonus all the time.
Guess i'll go back to my argonian meele magnb:
Get ready for some 25k will procs my be loved big boss
Shade change has little bearing on necro uptime unless you are talking about pre shielding pre hoting before anything is within range.0 -
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✭exeeter702 wrote: »Alchemist + julianos + willpower staff frontbar + skoria. 5-2 heavy, all infused potion reduction on jewelry. Tristat pot on steroids or like lingering speed tristat pot every like 20-30 seconds. Oh boy
Better use Necropotence with the new shade there is no excuse to not have the necro bonus all the time.
Guess i'll go back to my argonian meele magnb:
Get ready for some 25k will procs my be loved big boss
Shade change has little bearing on necro uptime unless you are talking about pre shielding pre hoting before anything is within range.
^ mostly, necro was already at 100% uptime in a fight.0 -
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✭You can keep 100% uptime on major vitality on magNb now with very little offensive compromise. But it’s not how folks are suggesting in this thread.Adenoma-Badenoma-Sadenoma0 -
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✭Keep in mind @Qbiken that average effective power is important, but in pvp, a quick 6k stam and 600 dmg might be as long as the fight lasts, so it's maximum effect is much more variable than average.1
