According to https://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/89e1in/summerset_update_18_teaser_a_recap_of_last_weeks/?st=JFJRF712&sh=4be75fac

"Two-Handed Weapons (2H, Bows, Staves) now count as 2 set items, not one.

I’m not *** with you, this is really happening. This is massive. It opens a ton of possibilities, and has me really excited. Coupled with Jewelry Crafting, we could really begin to see a lot of interesting (and probably, at least in some cases, stupidly strong/broken-feeling) builds, both in PvP and PvE. Early parses on the Dev Server were showing that the traditional DW/Bow builds were still outperforming 2H/Bow and Bow/Bow, but both were still significantly improved and actually viable. Gil pulled a parse with his 2H/Bow that was only 3-4K behind the DW/Bow, and Bow/Bow was, somewhat shockingly, similarly close. With more testing, we might actually begin to see some real PvE-viable builds when Update 18 drops. Where this change really shines, though, is for staff users - Magicka builds, consider this your biggest buff. 5/5/2 Combos with full uptime are now possible. This should be exciting."


Obviously, more testing is needed, but you'll have to wait for the PTS for that.

Probably not.

Yeah flexibility is cool but why would one try to get a vma or vas weapon nowadays? I hope they keep that little something that makes them worth it

Avran_Sylt wrote: »

If the additional 5-piece set you use is a duration based effect, it is entirely possible to proc it on one bar, then lead on over to another bar that utilizes a vMA weapon.

In this scenario, Summerset will actually buff vMA weapons indirectly.

More likely case is you proc a 5 piece from your back bar, switch and then proc another 5 set piece on your front bar.

VMA bow will still be mandatory for stam dps and VMA staff will still be used but this open up a lot of option for front bar use.

@Runefang

Oh. This is in regards to the 5/5/2 setup.

Monster sets take up 2 slots (head/shoulder)

This leaves 5 body, 3 jewelry, and weapons open for other sets. (10 total slots left)

DW can run Jewelry + Weapons in order to keep that 5-piece while at the same time having their armor 5-piece bonus. But this is because the two weapons count individually towards the set bonus.

Right now, 2-handed weapons cannot do that and at most with a monster set can have 5/4/2 on a bar at any given time.

vMA bow is not replaceable for stam builds. It contributes to a ridiculous amount of damage just by itself. PVE is more dots oriented and dual wield will still be BiS.
Magika will see significant changes.

asylum staff is probably dead.

vMA bow is stupidly strong, so is vMA staff, so in PvE at least everyone will still want those for the back bar, just like they do for DW / bow builds.

I'll just quote myself

HoloYoitsu wrote: »

ZOS could just add back the base stat boost component those weps used to have before they were redesigned. Those boosts were equivalent to 1 set bonus, so it would seem pretty sensible now that the special 2hand weps mean losing out on 2 set slots rather than just 1.

Like so

Basically just give Master weps their resource bonus back, give Maelstrom ones the dmg bonus, and something else for Asylum since those came out after the reworked wep effects.

Since the asylum/vma two handers and staves only have a single set bonus but are occupying 2 slots i feel that they will need a buff or return the weapon damage bonus in order for them to be competative with a 4/5 piece bonus from another set.

I feel the return of that weapon damage bonus will make them comparable.

But i feel there wont be the drive to grind for them anymore which to be honest i welcome. Even after getting 15 characters thier weapons of choice

ZOS won't let those weapons be useless. People spent too much time and effort farming them and would be furious. They'll buff them if it looks like set weapons will end up being stronger. I'm sure they've already thought of this, and have probably already tested it.

SydneyGrey wrote: »

ZOS won't let those weapons be useless. People spent too much time and effort farming them and would be furious. They'll buff them if it looks like set weapons will end up being stronger. I'm sure they've already thought of this, and have probably already tested it.

lol

Tasear wrote: »

Sential monster helm > Master resto by far

This is true.

Vapirko wrote: »

More of PvP being screwed over because of whining PvErs

Haha awesome for getting that in!!