ZoS, Let Me Make This VERY Clear:

Tyrobag · April 2018

THIS IS NOT OK:

"Bound Armor is no longer a toggle. When activated, increases the amount of damage the caster can block by 20% for 3 seconds. In addition, Bound Aegis now grants both Minor Resistance buffs, while Bound Armaments now increases your Light Attack damage by 11%, but not your Heavy Attack damage." From Here

Will you STOP removing all of the cool toggle abilities in the game?!?! Seriously, STOP >:(

Haven't you already screwed up bound armor enough when you removed the actual armor part?? Now sorcs are going to loose one of their coolest abilities that makes them look unique?
Don't you DARE let this idiotic change through. This is seriously messed up.

@Wrobbel

Elijah_Crow · April 2018

Um... You can still double slot this for the same effect. You just don't have to toggle it on and off.

DocFrost72 · April 2018

So, as a sorc tank I'm supposed to just...not like this change?

Waffennacht · April 2018

Gotta be a troll, no one liked looking like shredder

Ley · April 2018

You tell them!

#ChangeIsBadMkay

On a serious note, I'm glad for this change that this is going to free up a bar slot. I dislike having to double bar skills.

Tyrobag · April 2018

Elijah_Crow wrote: »

Um... You can still double slot this for the same effect. You just don't have to toggle it on and off.

Really? so it will still glow passively? Because inner light doesn't.

DocFrost72 wrote: »

So, as a sorc tank I'm supposed to just...not like this change?

I'm a sorc tank as well. 1st of all, its only 3 seconds so unless you're planning on spamming it its useless. 2nd of all, I'd much rather have a unique toggle ability that is both useful and makes my character look cool than this crap.

I'm really getting tired of ZoS going through all of the toggles in the game and replacing them with activation abilities. Inner Light, Siphoning Strikes, Flames of Oblivion, and now bound armor is going to be lost as well. Toggles were a cool and unique ability type that Zos has decided to single out for a complete removal from the game.

Morgul667 · April 2018

I Understand the togfle is gone which is cool but eill it still grant 8% magicka?

Tyrobag · April 2018

Waffennacht wrote: »

Gotta be a troll, no one liked looking like shredder

Really? because most of the community was pissed when ZoS removed the actual armor from Bound Armor. The new effect was cool, but not as cool. Now they want to kill that too.

Lynx7386 · April 2018

The real question is how much does it cost. 3 seconds is way too short for a tank to be repeatedly using this if it costs any significant amount.

DocFrost72 · April 2018

More like "warrior's cleaving, better activate armor." Did you see they also made a passive change that reduces the cost of your next cast ability by 15% after blocking? Hello cheaper clanfear and mitigation.

Tyrobag · April 2018

Lynx7386 wrote: »

The real question is how much does it cost. 3 seconds is way too short for a tank to be repeatedly using this if it costs any significant amount.

It doesn't really matter much, the time (and sanity) cost to keep spamming it every 3 seconds is already way to high. Its just a crap ability that they're using to excuse their crusade against all unique abilities.

Turelus · April 2018

Personally I am fine with less skills we slot just because having them slotted grants a buff.

You should be actively using the skills on your bar and making Bound Armaments something which helps the class tank and requires some play input.

Ladislao · April 2018

Some people have repeatedly said that this change to sorcerers is vital. I hope they are happy now

Violynne · April 2018

Time out, young man.

Seriously, what a rude way to disagree with a change in the game.

You should be ashamed of yourself.

Tyrobag · April 2018

Ladislao wrote: »

Some people have repeatedly said that this change to sorcerers is vital. I hope they are happy now

Its about as Vital as nerfing crystal frags or trying to destroy velacious curse. Its just another unique sorc ability that we're losing, as well as one of the final surviving toggle abilities.

Ley · April 2018

Violynne wrote: »

Time out, young man.

Seriously, what a rude way to disagree with a change in the game.

You should be ashamed of yourself.

Agreed, it's like a child having a temper tantrum.

Celestro · April 2018

What? This change was great. The stamina or magicka boost is still there from it just passively being slotted, and Bound Aegis (which I assume is what a sorc tank would've been using?) still has Minor Resolve and Ward attached to them. It's not really changed much at all from its older version, except opening up another slot and them adding an active ability that increases block effectiveness for sorcs as a whole. I don't imagine you're meant to spam it every 3 seconds since, hell, did you need to do something similar before? No.

Tyrobag · April 2018

Ley wrote: »

Violynne wrote: »

Time out, young man.

Seriously, what a rude way to disagree with a change in the game.

You should be ashamed of yourself.

Agreed, it's like a child having a temper tantrum.

Its become brutally obvious that ZoS only listens to two things: Harsh words or overwritten/exceedingly long essays. It doesn't take an essay to explain that this change is messed up, so I've opted for the former.

If ZoS repeatedly assaulted the style and capabilities of your primary class, you'd be angry too.

Ley · April 2018

Tyrobag wrote: »

Ley wrote: »

Violynne wrote: »

Time out, young man.

Seriously, what a rude way to disagree with a change in the game.

You should be ashamed of yourself.

Agreed, it's like a child having a temper tantrum.

Its become brutally obvious that ZoS only listens to two things: Harsh words or overwritten/exceedingly long essays. It doesn't take an essay to explain that this change is messed up, so I've opted for the former.

If ZoS repeatedly assaulted the style and capabilities of your primary class, you'd be angry too.

Sorc is my main class.

Illurian · April 2018

I think the biggest change about Bound Armor for me is the removal of buffs to heavy attacks, and buffing light attacks instead. Stamsorcs heavy weave a lot, so this change will be pretty significant for Stamsorc dps, imo.

Celestro · April 2018

I'm not entirely certainly about that. It depends. A lot of stamsorcs I know seem to use 2-3 heavy attacks and 1-2 light attack on front bar, so it doesn't seem to be that significant of a difference. If anything, back barring it would be buffing 3-4 light attacks from the bow. You could double slot for maximum effect on both bars, which would also keep sustain the same, but it would drop a bit from only single slotting. I do wonder how that plays out with other factors as well.

pieratsos · April 2018

Tyrobag wrote: »

Waffennacht wrote: »

Gotta be a troll, no one liked looking like shredder

Really? because most of the community was pissed when ZoS removed the actual armor from Bound Armor. The new effect was cool, but not as cool. Now they want to kill that too.

It looked like dadric/xivkyn motifs. The only difference is that you couldnt dye it. So basically you can get the old look of bound armor but now you can also dye it in any way you choose.

Why the hell are you using bound armor on a tank?

No one like toggles. But if you seriously like them so much for any reason feel free to slot it on both bars.

Mureel · April 2018

Please don't let these be more and more focus on too much cancer LA all the time! LA between abilities and dots ok, but let people still have decent heavy attack builds. They help so much in the case of high ping. Absolutely sucks with high ping to play my Magblade at times, due to missed LA, that I just play my non-pet sorc.

Emma_Overload · April 2018

Tyrobag wrote: »

Waffennacht wrote: »

Gotta be a troll, no one liked looking like shredder

Really? because most of the community was pissed when ZoS removed the actual armor from Bound Armor. The new effect was cool, but not as cool. Now they want to kill that too.

Your memory is extremely faulty. "Most of the community" asked for the option to turn of the bound armor visual because it was ugly. Very few sorcs cried when the visual effect was mostly removed.

Camb0Sl1ce · April 2018

I'm curious whether the aegis buff will carry over between bars just for having it slotted on one, or will it work similar to mage light as in you only get the extra mag and crit on the current bar.

Its just a vanity thing but I really hope they keep the live visuals just for having it slotted.

Seraphayel · April 2018

I am still not over losing the glowing eyes Inner Light was providing and now this... so sad.

Oreyn_Bearclaw · April 2018

Tyrobag wrote: »

THIS IS NOT OK:

"Bound Armor is no longer a toggle. When activated, increases the amount of damage the caster can block by 20% for 3 seconds. In addition, Bound Aegis now grants both Minor Resistance buffs, while Bound Armaments now increases your Light Attack damage by 11%, but not your Heavy Attack damage." From Here

Will you STOP removing all of the cool toggle abilities in the game?!?! Seriously, STOP >:(

Haven't you already screwed up bound armor enough when you removed the actual armor part?? Now sorcs are going to loose one of their coolest abilities that makes them look unique?
Don't you DARE let this idiotic change through. This is seriously messed up.

@Wrobbel

Oh man, it seems ZOS has made the ERPers mad. Haha

2 Things. Toggles are stupid and should be removed completely from the game, and aesthetics have no place in a discussion about balance.

Chufu · April 2018

Tyrobag wrote: »

THIS IS NOT OK:

"Bound Armor is no longer a toggle. When activated, increases the amount of damage the caster can block by 20% for 3 seconds. In addition, Bound Aegis now grants both Minor Resistance buffs, while Bound Armaments now increases your Light Attack damage by 11%, but not your Heavy Attack damage." From Here

Will you STOP removing all of the cool toggle abilities in the game?!?! Seriously, STOP >:(

Haven't you already screwed up bound armor enough when you removed the actual armor part?? Now sorcs are going to loose one of their coolest abilities that makes them look unique?
Don't you DARE let this idiotic change through. This is seriously messed up.

@Wrobbel

I am pretty sure, that when it's an activating ability instead of a toogle that you get the visible "cool" part of the sorcerer as soon as you activate it.

I can't say how much I like this change for my StamSorc. Most of you maybe remember this Mazzatun-endboss-fight and when you get the special ability for the statues, you untoggle automatically after it's done. That was horrible, because you always needed to reapply that.

And another thing: Because it's not a toggle anymore, you don't need it on both bars. That means 1 Extra-Skill that you can put in and use. And you still get no loses because of that change.

Just amazing!

Subversus · April 2018

Some classes are getting hit with the nerf bat right in the nads, and here we are ladies and gents: Stam Sorcs complain that their skills won’t make them glow anymore. What a time to be alive.

Waffennacht · April 2018

Tyrobag wrote: »

Waffennacht wrote: »

Gotta be a troll, no one liked looking like shredder

Really? because most of the community was pissed when ZoS removed the actual armor from Bound Armor. The new effect was cool, but not as cool. Now they want to kill that too.

I disagree, everyone I talked to preferred the changes in game, and in the forums all polls were heavily anti-shredder, not many had the same hatred for turtles I suppose.

The glow effect is alright, not something that is nearly as important as other changes

Vaoh · April 2018

Sounds like a much needed buff and an interesting choice between two good morphs.

I agree with you about the visual effect though. Definitely sad to see it go