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Pre-PTS changes
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Alcast has a summary on his HP (alcasthq.com) for the closed play test that occurred last week. Some changes seem to take up player requests, such as snare removal on reflective plate for DKs. The new infused trait for jewelry looks absurd. Overall thoughts? I hope some of these changes get tweaked quite a bit on the PTS, there are a lot of things that look a bit OP.
Main characters: Feanor the Believer - AD Altmer mSorc - AR 50 - Flawless Conqueror (PC EU)Idril Arnanor - AD Altmer mSorc - CP 217 - Stormproof (PC NA)Other characters:
Necrophilius Killgood - DC Imperial NecromancerFearscales - AD Argonian Templar - Stormproof (healer)Draco Imperialis - AD Imperial DK (tank)Cabed Naearamarth - AD Dunmer mDKValirion Willowthorne - AD Bosmer stamBladeTuruna - AD Altmer magBladeKheled Zaram - AD Redguard stamDKKibil Nala - AD Redguard stamSorc - StormproofYavanna Kémentárí - AD Breton magWardenAzog gro-Ghâsh - EP Orc stamWardenVidar Drakenblød - DC Nord mDKMarquis de Peyrac - DC Breton mSorc - StormproofRawlith Khaj'ra - AD Khajiit stamWardenTu'waccah - AD Redguard Stamplar
All chars 50 @ CP 1900+. Playing and enjoying PvP with RdK mostly on PC EU.0
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✭✭✭✭✭Well you do trade 900 ish stats for ability to boost your enchant by 60%. So if you pick SD, the gold enchant is 170ish then 60% of that is 102. 900 divided by 10 is about 90. So you'll gain about 12SD but also lose shield value, have less stat to cast, etc.
So I think it's about balanced. I really like the mobilty enchants; definitely opens up build options for those that can't move.
I love all the class changes, except Sorc (10% nerf on shield feels unwarranted).Minno - DC - Forum-plar Extraordinaire
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Yeah, but what about a 60% increase on a fire, shock or poison damage glyph? Those are between 3 and 4K usually, so the jewelry glyph adds another 1.5 to 2k. It's more burst.Main characters: Feanor the Believer - AD Altmer mSorc - AR 50 - Flawless Conqueror (PC EU)Idril Arnanor - AD Altmer mSorc - CP 217 - Stormproof (PC NA)Other characters:Necrophilius Killgood - DC Imperial NecromancerFearscales - AD Argonian Templar - Stormproof (healer)Draco Imperialis - AD Imperial DK (tank)Cabed Naearamarth - AD Dunmer mDKValirion Willowthorne - AD Bosmer stamBladeTuruna - AD Altmer magBladeKheled Zaram - AD Redguard stamDKKibil Nala - AD Redguard stamSorc - StormproofYavanna Kémentárí - AD Breton magWardenAzog gro-Ghâsh - EP Orc stamWardenVidar Drakenblød - DC Nord mDKMarquis de Peyrac - DC Breton mSorc - StormproofRawlith Khaj'ra - AD Khajiit stamWardenTu'waccah - AD Redguard StamplarAll chars 50 @ CP 1900+. Playing and enjoying PvP with RdK mostly on PC EU.0 -
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Yeah, but what about a 60% increase on a fire, shock or poison damage glyph? Those are between 3 and 4K usually, so the jewelry glyph adds another 1.5 to 2k. It's more burst.
If it's anything like armor infused, it's only going to add 60% increase to the enchant on the jewel and nothing else. Will need to test when pts comes out but that is my assumption on how that will work.
None of the enchants look OP; all have specific conditions and some of the stronger ones might have more expensive mats that are required.Minno - DC - Forum-plar Extraordinaire
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Yeah, but what about a 60% increase on a fire, shock or poison damage glyph? Those are between 3 and 4K usually, so the jewelry glyph adds another 1.5 to 2k. It's more burst.
If it's anything like armor infused, it's only going to add 60% increase to the enchant on the jewel and nothing else. Will need to test when pts comes out but that is my assumption on how that will work.
None of the enchants look OP; all have specific conditions and some of the stronger ones might have more expensive mats that are required.
this is the only way it could work, i mean i dont understand how you (Feanor) could think it would impact your weapon enchant when it is clearly a jewelry trait, we already have infused for weapons.
my problem with this is that this posts, https://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/89e1in/summerset_update_18_teaser_a_recap_of_last_weeks/ says he could get the cost reduction enchant up to 600 resource reduction, this seems impossible as the gold 160cp cost reduction is only 203 and 60% more is only 122 so 203+122 is only 325 cost reduction. they would have to bump up the cost reduction to ~400 for that to make sense.Edited by Lightspeedflashb14_ESO on April 3, 2018 3:24PM4 -
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✭✭✭✭✭My bad. You're right. I got carried away a bit.Main characters: Feanor the Believer - AD Altmer mSorc - AR 50 - Flawless Conqueror (PC EU)Idril Arnanor - AD Altmer mSorc - CP 217 - Stormproof (PC NA)Other characters:Necrophilius Killgood - DC Imperial NecromancerFearscales - AD Argonian Templar - Stormproof (healer)Draco Imperialis - AD Imperial DK (tank)Cabed Naearamarth - AD Dunmer mDKValirion Willowthorne - AD Bosmer stamBladeTuruna - AD Altmer magBladeKheled Zaram - AD Redguard stamDKKibil Nala - AD Redguard stamSorc - StormproofYavanna Kémentárí - AD Breton magWardenAzog gro-Ghâsh - EP Orc stamWardenVidar Drakenblød - DC Nord mDKMarquis de Peyrac - DC Breton mSorc - StormproofRawlith Khaj'ra - AD Khajiit stamWardenTu'waccah - AD Redguard StamplarAll chars 50 @ CP 1900+. Playing and enjoying PvP with RdK mostly on PC EU.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Quick reference for those looking for the jewel enchants:
Robust – Increase Stamina by 870
Healthy – Increase Health by 957
Arcane – Increase Magicka by 870
Bloodthirsty – Increase execute damage by 20% when enemy is below 25%
Harmony – Increases the potency of Damage, Healing, Recovery & Damage Shields granted by Synergies by 35%
Infused – Increases the effect of the enchantment by 60%
Triune – Increases health, magicka, stamina by 435
Protective – Adds 1844 Physical resistance
Swift – Increased movement speed by 10%
They all seem balanced according to each other. Like blood thirsty only increases the execute DMG by 20% and you have to reach a threshold first. And physical resists is about a 2.7% mitigation before armor debuffs and 10% movement speed has a cap so you won't be able to become a train running everywhere.Minno - DC - Forum-plar Extraordinaire
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✭✭✭✭Quick reference for those looking for the jewel enchants:
Robust – Increase Stamina by 870
Healthy – Increase Health by 957
Arcane – Increase Magicka by 870
Bloodthirsty – Increase execute damage by 20% when enemy is below 25%
Harmony – Increases the potency of Damage, Healing, Recovery & Damage Shields granted by Synergies by 35%
Infused – Increases the effect of the enchantment by 60%
Triune – Increases health, magicka, stamina by 435
Protective – Adds 1844 Physical resistance
Swift – Increased movement speed by 10%
They all seem balanced according to each other. Like blood thirsty only increases the execute DMG by 20% and you have to reach a threshold first. And physical resists is about a 2.7% mitigation before armor debuffs and 10% movement speed has a cap so you won't be able to become a train running everywhere.
Protective is both Physical and spell resist
Bloodthirsty is ALL damage you do goes up 20% under 25%. not just executes.
Protective is proly the worst. would rather have healing done or received.Edited by Lightspeedflashb14_ESO on April 3, 2018 3:27PM1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭What do you guys think of the dark cloak change? I do hope they take into account that a class burst heal that triggers the shadow passives is not a good idea if you think of heavy armor troll king stamblades. That way it's a no brainer between FM and Rally. I get they want to throw NB tanks a bone. But still, I hope they do adjust it with PvP in mind.Main characters: Feanor the Believer - AD Altmer mSorc - AR 50 - Flawless Conqueror (PC EU)Idril Arnanor - AD Altmer mSorc - CP 217 - Stormproof (PC NA)Other characters:Necrophilius Killgood - DC Imperial NecromancerFearscales - AD Argonian Templar - Stormproof (healer)Draco Imperialis - AD Imperial DK (tank)Cabed Naearamarth - AD Dunmer mDKValirion Willowthorne - AD Bosmer stamBladeTuruna - AD Altmer magBladeKheled Zaram - AD Redguard stamDKKibil Nala - AD Redguard stamSorc - StormproofYavanna Kémentárí - AD Breton magWardenAzog gro-Ghâsh - EP Orc stamWardenVidar Drakenblød - DC Nord mDKMarquis de Peyrac - DC Breton mSorc - StormproofRawlith Khaj'ra - AD Khajiit stamWardenTu'waccah - AD Redguard StamplarAll chars 50 @ CP 1900+. Playing and enjoying PvP with RdK mostly on PC EU.0 -
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✭What do you guys think of the dark cloak change? I do hope they take into account that a class burst heal that triggers the shadow passives is not a good idea if you think of heavy armor troll king stamblades. That way it's a no brainer between FM and Rally. I get they want to throw NB tanks a bone. But still, I hope they do adjust it with PvP in mind.
Sure that is the case, but you know what a nb is not doing when he/she is using that morph?Edited by JobooAGS on April 3, 2018 3:41PM6 -
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Not stealthing, but as far as I know these builds don't rely on cloak as a invisibility skill anyway.Main characters: Feanor the Believer - AD Altmer mSorc - AR 50 - Flawless Conqueror (PC EU)Idril Arnanor - AD Altmer mSorc - CP 217 - Stormproof (PC NA)Other characters:Necrophilius Killgood - DC Imperial NecromancerFearscales - AD Argonian Templar - Stormproof (healer)Draco Imperialis - AD Imperial DK (tank)Cabed Naearamarth - AD Dunmer mDKValirion Willowthorne - AD Bosmer stamBladeTuruna - AD Altmer magBladeKheled Zaram - AD Redguard stamDKKibil Nala - AD Redguard stamSorc - StormproofYavanna Kémentárí - AD Breton magWardenAzog gro-Ghâsh - EP Orc stamWardenVidar Drakenblød - DC Nord mDKMarquis de Peyrac - DC Breton mSorc - StormproofRawlith Khaj'ra - AD Khajiit stamWardenTu'waccah - AD Redguard StamplarAll chars 50 @ CP 1900+. Playing and enjoying PvP with RdK mostly on PC EU.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Main characters: Feanor the Believer - AD Altmer mSorc - AR 50 - Flawless Conqueror (PC EU)Idril Arnanor - AD Altmer mSorc - CP 217 - Stormproof (PC NA)Other characters:Necrophilius Killgood - DC Imperial NecromancerFearscales - AD Argonian Templar - Stormproof (healer)Draco Imperialis - AD Imperial DK (tank)Cabed Naearamarth - AD Dunmer mDKValirion Willowthorne - AD Bosmer stamBladeTuruna - AD Altmer magBladeKheled Zaram - AD Redguard stamDKKibil Nala - AD Redguard stamSorc - StormproofYavanna Kémentárí - AD Breton magWardenAzog gro-Ghâsh - EP Orc stamWardenVidar Drakenblød - DC Nord mDKMarquis de Peyrac - DC Breton mSorc - StormproofRawlith Khaj'ra - AD Khajiit stamWardenTu'waccah - AD Redguard StamplarAll chars 50 @ CP 1900+. Playing and enjoying PvP with RdK mostly on PC EU.0 -
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No, but if it is a bug, the tradeoff is way smaller. We will see. PTS is already looming.Main characters: Feanor the Believer - AD Altmer mSorc - AR 50 - Flawless Conqueror (PC EU)Idril Arnanor - AD Altmer mSorc - CP 217 - Stormproof (PC NA)Other characters:Necrophilius Killgood - DC Imperial NecromancerFearscales - AD Argonian Templar - Stormproof (healer)Draco Imperialis - AD Imperial DK (tank)Cabed Naearamarth - AD Dunmer mDKValirion Willowthorne - AD Bosmer stamBladeTuruna - AD Altmer magBladeKheled Zaram - AD Redguard stamDKKibil Nala - AD Redguard stamSorc - StormproofYavanna Kémentárí - AD Breton magWardenAzog gro-Ghâsh - EP Orc stamWardenVidar Drakenblød - DC Nord mDKMarquis de Peyrac - DC Breton mSorc - StormproofRawlith Khaj'ra - AD Khajiit stamWardenTu'waccah - AD Redguard StamplarAll chars 50 @ CP 1900+. Playing and enjoying PvP with RdK mostly on PC EU.0 -
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✭ThorinWolfgang wrote: »Cya magwarden. The only stun has gone.
What? I haven't seen anything about the stun being removed from deep fissure.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭ThorinWolfgang wrote: »Cya magwarden. The only stun has gone.
Yup, without that stun, we don't have any reliable cc anymore. So we won't be able to pressure an opponent or set up our burst
Well, I always wanted to learn how to play a Stam char in PvP. Guess it's time to respec to StamDen"Stand strong, stay true and shelter all."
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✭✭✭✭I’m... stupefied by the things ZOS does without thinking things through.
A hardened ward shield nerf? Really? You’re basically forcing every sorcerer to shield stack now, and killing the builds of the few of us who only ran hardened ward. Revert that. It’s not needed.
Empower grants 40% to light attacks... I can’t wait to get in game and put on queens elegance and light people up with 20K+ empowered overload shots. Again. Not a smart change at all, they seriously need to rework overload before doing this.
Swap the damage between overload heavy attacks and light attacks. Problem solved.0 -
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✭ThorinWolfgang wrote: »Cya magwarden. The only stun has gone.
Yup, without that stun, we don't have any reliable cc anymore. So we won't be able to pressure an opponent or set up our burst
Well, I always wanted to learn how to play a Stam char in PvP. Guess it's time to respec to StamDen
If they remove the stun, mag warden will be the worst class in pvp. They would become completely useless as a damage dealer. Honestly it's rather difficult to kill and experienced player right now as it is.2 -
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✭✭✭✭Sounds like the final nail in the coffin for DW magica builds.. sniff.Minalan owes me a beer.
PC EU Megaserver
Minie Mo - Stam/Magblade - DC
Woody Ron - Stamplar - DC
Aidee - Magsorc - DC
Notadorf - Stamsorc - DC
Khattman Doo - Stamblade - Relegated to Crafter, cos AD.3 -
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✭✭✭✭I’m... stupefied by the things ZOS does without thinking things through.
A hardened ward shield nerf? Really? You’re basically forcing every sorcerer to shield stack now, and killing the builds of the few of us who only ran hardened ward. Revert that. It’s not needed.
Empower grants 40% to light attacks... I can’t wait to get in game and put on queens elegance and light people up with 20K+ empowered overload shots. Again. Not a smart change at all, they seriously need to rework overload before doing this.
Swap the damage between overload heavy attacks and light attacks. Problem solved.
I read the shield change as a buff to the other morph, with hardened staying the same.Minalan owes me a beer.
PC EU Megaserver
Minie Mo - Stam/Magblade - DC
Woody Ron - Stamplar - DC
Aidee - Magsorc - DC
Notadorf - Stamsorc - DC
Khattman Doo - Stamblade - Relegated to Crafter, cos AD.6 -
Torbschka✭✭✭✭I’m... stupefied by the things ZOS does without thinking things through.
A hardened ward shield nerf? Really? You’re basically forcing every sorcerer to shield stack now, and killing the builds of the few of us who only ran hardened ward. Revert that. It’s not needed.
Empower grants 40% to light attacks... I can’t wait to get in game and put on queens elegance and light people up with 20K+ empowered overload shots. Again. Not a smart change at all, they seriously need to rework overload before doing this.
Swap the damage between overload heavy attacks and light attacks. Problem solved.
I read the shield change as a buff to the other morph, with hardened staying the same.
Me2, there is no shield nerf... Read again
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✭✭✭✭I’m... stupefied by the things ZOS does without thinking things through.
A hardened ward shield nerf? Really? You’re basically forcing every sorcerer to shield stack now, and killing the builds of the few of us who only ran hardened ward. Revert that. It’s not needed.
Empower grants 40% to light attacks... I can’t wait to get in game and put on queens elegance and light people up with 20K+ empowered overload shots. Again. Not a smart change at all, they seriously need to rework overload before doing this.
Swap the damage between overload heavy attacks and light attacks. Problem solved.
I read the shield change as a buff to the other morph, with hardened staying the same.
Me2, there is no shield nerf... Read again
It's actually a buff to pet shields.Minalan owes me a beer.
PC EU Megaserver
Minie Mo - Stam/Magblade - DC
Woody Ron - Stamplar - DC
Aidee - Magsorc - DC
Notadorf - Stamsorc - DC
Khattman Doo - Stamblade - Relegated to Crafter, cos AD.2
