Luck of the draw on daily writs.

My first ever was 58 voucher Resto Staff, didn;t see another for 2 months, then I got a run of Alchemy / enchanting and 5 writ voucher Clothing ones.

A friend got a 96 voucher one the other day.

Alternatively, you can purchase them from Guild Stores, where other people are selling them. That is how I got all my storage chests.

I would reccommend you try and spend 700-750 per voucher at most, and only buy writs you can already craft.

My master crafter definitely gets writs dropping quite frequently as compared to some other of my characters who really don't know anything aside from some of the basic motifs. I've found the quality of writs to be fairly exceptional---I did one writ that netted me 200+ vouchers (can't remember the exact amount but it may have been in the 250? range). I have everything researched, most recipes learned and most of the motifs to include the rarer ones. Her success rate is really pretty good and something usually drops for me every few days. Sometimes multiple writs in one crafting session.

Keep working at it and even my alts who don't know much, do get writs from time to time.

Jameliel wrote: »

How do you get master writs for rewards? I've had every crafting skill maxed out for over a month except "keen eye". I do writ dailies every day, but I've still never received a single writ.

You say that you have the crafting "skills" maxed except "keen eye". The skills are the level 1 thru level 50 lines, and the passives are "keen eye" and the others. I and the other posters do assume that you meant "skills, including all passives" when you said "skills". Just want to verify that was your meaning. Each crafting skill line has one particular passive that dictates which level writ you are getting from the boards:

Alchemy - Solvent Proficiency
Blacksmithing - Metalworking
Clothing - Tailoring
Enchanting - Potency Improvement
Provisioning - Recipe Improvement
Woodworking - Woodworking (a bit unimaginative)

As the highest level of the above passives each become available only at skill line level 50, the bare minimum for a chance at a Master Writ is that the skill levels are 50 and the above passives are maxed (all lines except Provisioning and Alchemy max at 10, the other two max below 10). When the passives are maxed, the only crafting writ that you can receive is the highest level writ, with the exception of Provisioning, due to a bug that was never fixed. For that you will receive one of the two highest level writs (VI or VII), and the latter is Master Writ drop-capable, the former is not. You can't get a lower writ, even by choice (except by respec'ing). So, every writ that you do that matches this except Provisioning, has at least a miniscule chance at dropping a Master Writ. Provisioning writ will be a VII (max writ) every third day, so there's even less chance to get Master Writs from that line.

After this, things such as motifs and recipes learned, and doing more max writs on more alts, will improve your chances. That said, if you're doing them daily for over a month with the passives maxed, without a single writ dropping, that's some especially bad RNG, but it does sound like you're doing the right thing.

Jameliel wrote: »

fgoron2000 wrote: »

Jameliel wrote: »

How do you get master writs for rewards? I've had every crafting skill maxed out for over a month except "keen eye". I do writ dailies every day, but I've still never received a single writ.

You say that you have the crafting "skills" maxed except "keen eye". The skills are the level 1 thru level 50 lines, and the passives are "keen eye" and the others. I and the other posters do assume that you meant "skills, including all passives" when you said "skills". Just want to verify that was your meaning. Each crafting skill line has one particular passive that dictates which level writ you are getting from the boards:

Alchemy - Solvent Proficiency
Blacksmithing - Metalworking
Clothing - Tailoring
Enchanting - Potency Improvement
Provisioning - Recipe Improvement
Woodworking - Woodworking (a bit unimaginative)

As the highest level of the above passives each become available only at skill line level 50, the bare minimum for a chance at a Master Writ is that the skill levels are 50 and the above passives are maxed (all lines except Provisioning and Alchemy max at 10, the other two max below 10). When the passives are maxed, the only crafting writ that you can receive is the highest level writ, with the exception of Provisioning, due to a bug that was never fixed. For that you will receive one of the two highest level writs (VI or VII), and the latter is Master Writ drop-capable, the former is not. You can't get a lower writ, even by choice (except by respec'ing). So, every writ that you do that matches this except Provisioning, has at least a miniscule chance at dropping a Master Writ. Provisioning writ will be a VII (max writ) every third day, so there's even less chance to get Master Writs from that line.

After this, things such as motifs and recipes learned, and doing more max writs on more alts, will improve your chances. That said, if you're doing them daily for over a month with the passives maxed, without a single writ dropping, that's some especially bad RNG, but it does sound like you're doing the right thing.

Thanks you all for the replies!

Yes I have everything maxed except the passive I mentioned. To be fair I haven't researched a ton of traits, but still, zero writs for months while doing dailies for months seems a bit off. For provisioning, I'm getting close to knowing all recipes. Have to check again, but I think I need less than 15.

Has there ever been anything officially mentioned about master writ drops for daily crafting rewards?

I'm not aware of any official statements, beyond anything already mentioned in this thread...and yeah, that does seem off. I don't know if trait researching does or doesn't affect your chances, but for other purposes, it doesn't hurt to bump them up some too...

Sure researh/learning helps. I have enchanting/Alchemy fully learned on all 15 chars and there are tons of writs. And it seems that woodworking writs drop more often than other durable on my twinks (more traits researched out of maximum as there are less items in woodworking)

I've been able to count the number of vouchers available from my saved writs over 3 months doing all 6 ordinary writs on 10 characters every day and it's about 4K. The vast majority of writs are Alchemy and Enchanting, which are 2-5 vouchers, but I get those pretty regularly; 5-10 voucher gear writs are also quite frequent. I also get 80-100 voucher writs about once or twice per week, and really big ones, of 200+ vouchers maybe once a month. I usually store writs for long periods, up to 3-4 months then craft them in bulk over a short period because it's far more time efficient when handing them in, especially for consumables. There are addons that auto-craft all writs you have in your inventory then click the writ, take the quest and turn in at once.

I ensure I maximize the chances of getting them by:
- having all traits researched, motifs known, recipes learned, and the vast majority of general crafting achievements on my main crafter; I also learn all furnishing blueprints but I doubt those have an impact.
- having all traits researched, recipes learned except rare/expensive ones learned and some general crafting achievements on the characters that I consider being my main ones; those characters are able to do some master writs themselves.
- having common motifs known, all alchemy ingredient properties discovered and enchanting runes translated on every character that does writs; also learn green recipes or even very common blue furnishing blueprints since their sale value is negligible and it's not worth clogging my guild store slots with stuff worth 100 gold or less.

I haven't seen any impact of spent points in the respective line - in fact some of my newer crafters have more points there than my main one, since they also have those 4 points that speed up research; the Keen Eye passive is useless on all skill lines except Alchemy and maybe Clothier, since the plants are the only ones you can't easily spot from a distance. Actually the number of vouchers per writ is not really relevant since in most cases it's more profitable crafting multiple low double digit writs that require epic items that a big one that requires a legendary piece of gear that's worth a couple of hundreds. The biggest I've seen linked in a guild chat was a 389 voucher one and the biggest I've gotten myself was 320. I've also seen plenty of raw deals, where you can barely break even on the cost of materials, like glyphs requiring Hakeijo, food that requires Perfect Roe and even some low voucher count writs that require exceedingly rare motifs like Buoyant Armiger - I have all styles so it doesn't really affects me, but the vast majority of players are probably bitterly disappointing when they get those and sell them on guilds as fast as they can, at low prices. There's something clearly off with the writ count formula.

Well my strategy can be subsumed as following: invest everything in one crafter, so you can basically craft any writ, or simply craft for yourself and for selling various items, then invest in more characters if the opportunity cost is negligible.

For example Hollowjack motif is basically vendor trash since every other box dropped one during the event and each boss dropped a box, so I ended up with stacks even after learning it on all chars - Hollowjack does pop up in the master writs, so it also affects the chance of getting them; the only ones (still) excluded are the crown exclusives and motifs that were just released in the current patch. Blue books are as cheap as 100 gold and purple ones are around 500. Mercenary motif used to be cheap, but they have since greatly reduced the drop rate, hence the price has increased 4-5x. So I learned those on all my other 9 crafters as well; some of them got some books I got from the free crown crates as well since they are not tradeable.

I do only regularly play 5 characters, one has finished research long ago, but the other 4 still have to research some: 3 have a couple of months to go, incidentally finishing research right at Summerset launch, and the 4th still 5-6 months since it started much later. Yet those are racking up noticeably more equipment writs than the rest, with the alchemy and enchanting ones being pretty consistent on all, and provisioning being quite rare even on my main due to the fact that the basic writs are split between CP50 and CP150 food and drink. The opportunity cost of spending those points for the main characters is small, since all have 360+ and they aren't really missing on any of their combat skills, but would be much greater for the other 5 that have just hit 50, and had all their skill points reset and poured right away into the crafting main passive needed for writs and have almost none left.

Indeed, it is well known the best bet to beat heavily randomized drops is to throw big numbers at them, and also mix possible "seeds" as much as possible. For example while farming gear I noticed a lot of clustering in drops if I kept going on the same character, but abrupt changes when switching, so it's highly likely that the RNG is seeded on Char ID, among other things. In terms of writs, I have noticed that one of my developing crafters (6 nirnhoned items to go as of today) constantly pulls valuable writs, worth 80-100 vouchers, even if the drop rate is no different than the other two that know the same number of traits.

pauli133 wrote: »

So far as I can tell, the effect of anything beyond bare skill points and level is marginal. I believe there was someone doing a long term test on characters with different combinations; I don't know if results have been reported lately.

yes, one character with pretty much all the motifs, another who only had the cheaper ones.
think he even laced a few traits to research.

he did not notice any difference, so effect is pretty small, far less than 50% so its no point buying expensive motifs to increase drop chance. Note if you buy them for style its an nice bonus, also you can only make writs of styles you know.

The advantage of Orsinium and Vvardenfell dailies is that the world boss ones can be shared, so you can do up to 6 a day, yet they are not that fast. For one hand most not only involve killing the world boss, but also traveling to and from shrine, gathering some objects, returning to turn in then finding the next from other players etc. So they each take ~7-10 minutes in practice at best. And that time tends to add up a bit, when you also add porting between zones, relogging alts and so forth. The only one that's really fast is the crows one in CWC if you have the required items stored already. Overall the Cyrodiil settlement ones are much faster since 90% of the items and locations are within a minute of the settlement. So realistically you can do them in 3 minutes or less (unless ganked and having to port back). But you can pick the non-conquerable settlements and do those, since usually there aren't many PvP'ers about. Cheydinhal is the best choice, since Chorrol & Veynon Priory send you quite far away.

I tired to obtain master writs with my alt who knows some traits and some cheap motifs. Every day I was doing blacksmith, woodworking and tailoring dailies for 3 months. I didn't receive a single master writ. I spent a lot of mats, and ened up with zero reward. So just returned to my main crafter and stopped doing crafts with the alt. People say the alts pull out master writs - but how often? Three months are not enough to get one?