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EP OP?!?!?!?
DeadlyPhoenix
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Is Ebonheart Pact over powered?? The stats speak for themselves!!! Haha I'm just kidding, but I would like if ZOS released all the stats like this for all alliances.
Most popular Alliance: Ebonheart Pact (36.33% of all characters)
Most PvP Kills by Alliance: Ebonheart Pact (122,490,253 kills)
Edited by DeadlyPhoenix on April 2, 2018 5:27PM Most popular Alliance: Ebonheart Pact (36.33% of all characters)
Most PvP Kills by Alliance: Ebonheart Pact (122,490,253 kills)
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swippy✭✭✭✭✭yeah i love seeing stats like that. it'd be great if they'd release a much longer page that would take me hours to go through. *ahem*Edited by swippy on April 2, 2018 5:30PM0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Dont forget most popular race is high elf. Also EP native race.
High Elf is Dominion (and incidentally best race for most magicka DPS). Dunmer are the EP natives, and they would be the most popular if that didn't take away from their dark and brooding edgelord status.
As Jester King Emeric says:
Jester King Emeric: Do you know the trouble with Morrowind feasts?
Jester Queen Ayrenn: All the poisonings?
Jester King Emeric: No, besides that!
Jester Queen Ayrenn: The squishy bug glop?
Jester King Emeric: Yes, but-
Jester Queen Ayrenn: The long silent glowering?
Jester King Emeric: Everything comes out smoked…! But seriously, they really are dreadful, aren’t they?2 -
DeadlyPhoenix✭✭✭✭✭I think it probably has something to do with color scheme and emblem for the factions. Black and red with a dragon is something I prefer, but I chose AD and have only AD characters other than a pack mule of the other 2.
This is probably why it's the most popular alliance of the 3.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I always assumed b/c of players that know the game mostly from Morrowind and Skyrim that EP would be popular as they jumped into the game.
These numbers are even more curious b/c at launch AD was pretty big faction wise, and most of the big guilds and players from AD don't play anymore. So I wonder if the number given is "active players", "all-time players" and/or how it would change if you looked at not just active players, but actives that actually use cyrodiil regularly.-- @xaraan --
nightblade: Xaraan • templar: Xaraan-dar • dragon-knight: Xaraanosaurus • necromancer: Xaraan-qa • warden: Xaraanodon • sorcerer: Xaraan-ra
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Yep, because I'd say 50%+ of those EP members thought this game was "Skyrim Online" and wanted to see their beloved northern territories.Spacemonkey wrote: »makes sense that if most character are EP
Not that there's anything wrong with this dedication.
Me, I'm AD all the way. Something about tall females with attitudes just get my engines rumbling.
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DeadlyPhoenix✭✭✭✭✭I always assumed b/c of players that know the game mostly from Morrowind and Skyrim that EP would be popular as they jumped into the game.
These numbers are even more curious b/c at launch AD was pretty big faction wise, and most of the big guilds and players from AD don't play anymore. So I wonder if the number given is "active players", "all-time players" and/or how it would change if you looked at not just active players, but actives that actually use cyrodiil regularly.
Well on top of that I would like to know if this is just character based as well. Meaning someone has 10 EP alts they rarely play but main an AD or DC. (I now realize it is character based already and would be no real way to see mains other than maybe by achievement, level, or some other means.)
Originally AD was one of the biggest because it has khajiit and high elf races locked behind it. Now most people have access to all races all alliances vs back at the launch.Edited by DeadlyPhoenix on April 2, 2018 5:48PM0 -
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✭✭✭On other games, if a server/shard has x amount of one faction, you cannot make a char in that faction on that server.
Single mega server scrapped that balance plan. Therefore, between any race any alliance like adventurer/imperial editions and argonians and dark elves, there are too many EP, always.0 -
DeadlyPhoenix✭✭✭✭✭On other games, if a server/shard has x amount of one faction, you cannot make a char in that faction on that server.
Single mega server scrapped that balance plan. Therefore, between any race any alliance like adventurer/imperial editions and argonians and dark elves, there are too many EP, always.
Well this actually isn't a big deal here. For one 36% isn't a massive lead between 3 alliances. That leaves the others at around 32% each so almost 1/1/1. However they also have campaign caps, these used to be exploitable though I never did and don't know if it still is.Edited by DeadlyPhoenix on April 2, 2018 5:44PM0 -
DeadlyPhoenix✭✭✭✭✭teiselaise wrote: »We got Argonians.
That you do and you have dunmer. Good tank/healer race and good race for dk dps with the added fire.
Khajiit/bosmer for rogue and high elf for sorcerer was one of the reasons for going AD.0 -
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✭VaranisArano wrote: »We have the best battlecries: Remember the Chalamo!
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that was certainly true this weekend... ah, pretty much anytime really. the red zerg!0 -
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Oh is it that close? Seems like a LOT more off balance in favour of EP, whenever I go to Shor or Vivec.DeadlyPhoenix wrote: »On other games, if a server/shard has x amount of one faction, you cannot make a char in that faction on that server.
Single mega server scrapped that balance plan. Therefore, between any race any alliance like adventurer/imperial editions and argonians and dark elves, there are too many EP, always.
Well this actually isn't a big deal here. For one 36% isn't a massive lead between 3 alliances. That leaves the others at around 32% each so almost 1/1/1. However they also have campaign caps, these used to be exploitable though I never did and don't know if it still is.
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✭✭✭✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »We have the best battlecries: Remember the Chalamo!
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Make the blue trex yellow and mix the reds and blues, then you're more accurate. Damn reds and blues always double teaming.PS4 / NA
M'asad - Khajiit Nightblade - Healer
Pakhet - Khajiit Dragonknight - Tank
Raksha - Khajiit Sorcerer - Stamina DPS
Bastet - Khajiit Templar - Healer
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Oh is it that close? Seems like a LOT more off balance in favour of EP, whenever I go to Shor or Vivec.DeadlyPhoenix wrote: »On other games, if a server/shard has x amount of one faction, you cannot make a char in that faction on that server.
Single mega server scrapped that balance plan. Therefore, between any race any alliance like adventurer/imperial editions and argonians and dark elves, there are too many EP, always.
Well this actually isn't a big deal here. For one 36% isn't a massive lead between 3 alliances. That leaves the others at around 32% each so almost 1/1/1. However they also have campaign caps, these used to be exploitable though I never did and don't know if it still is.
Still has nothing to do with these stats. The reason there seem to be so many is varied.
1: Maybe more EP in the campaigns are actually zerging and working together vs skyshard/dolmen/daily/IC farming.
2: Campaign caps might still be exploitable. Not gonna explain it in detail obviously. Though I'm AD and run solo anyway.
3: Well actually there aren't a whole lot of reasons
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These are also the stats for just how many characters are EP. How many players actually main EP might be higher like 40-50% of all pvpers are EP. Who knows though.Edited by DeadlyPhoenix on April 2, 2018 6:18PM0 -
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✭VaranisArano wrote: »We have the best battlecries: Remember the Chalamo!
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Make the blue trex yellow and mix the reds and blues, then you're more accurate. Damn reds and blues always double teaming.
My favorite is when you're AD defending an AD home castle from EP, and a group a DC suddenly shows up out of nowhere (wink wink), gets in through the breech and both groups run up onto the walls, one going clockwise and the other counterclockwise, and you will see them literally run through one another and not attack each other at all so AD has to fight two full--strength groups.. Amazing cooperation and communication. Kudos. This is what makes Cyro PVP great.
PC-NA since 2015. Tired and unimpressed.0 -
DeadlyPhoenix✭✭✭✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »We have the best battlecries: Remember the Chalamo!
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Make the blue trex yellow and mix the reds and blues, then you're more accurate. Damn reds and blues always double teaming.
It definitely feels that way to me too!!!!!0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭we need to know the metric of the other alliances before you can make that click bait.
if EP has 36% population but only 122,490,253 kills, how efficient is the EP population at killing players?
If the total pop is boasted as being at 10 million, then EP has 3,600,000 players. Assuming all of them PVP (because I don't have the actual data on pvp numbers), we can say the following:
- EP has a pop of 3,600,000 and a kill count of 122,490,253.
- if you divide 122,490,253 by 3,600,000 and multiply by 100%, you will get an efficacy rating of 34%.
Thus, EP is 34% efficient at killing players. Impressive, but at 36% pop, this is terrible compared to DC and AD if you assume they have an equal 32% population (3,200,000 players each) compared to EP's 36%.
If i can get the kill rate for DC and AD numbers, we can see a full efficacy rating for all 3 alliances!Minno - DC - Forum-plar Extraordinaire
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DeadlyPhoenix✭✭✭✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »We have the best battlecries: Remember the Chalamo!
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Make the blue trex yellow and mix the reds and blues, then you're more accurate. Damn reds and blues always double teaming.
My favorite is when you're AD defending an AD home castle from EP, and a group a DC suddenly shows up out of nowhere (wink wink), gets in through the breech and both groups run up onto the walls, one going clockwise and the other counterclockwise, and you will see them literally run through one another and not attack each other at all so AD has to fight two full--strength groups.. Amazing cooperation and communication. Kudos. This is what makes Cyro PVP great.
!!!!!SKYRIM SPOILER!!!!!
It's like they all think stopping us here in Cryodiil will somehow prevent what happens in Skyrim with AD and Talos lol... They can't stop it!0 -
DeadlyPhoenix✭✭✭✭✭we need to know the metric of the other alliances before you can make that click bait.
if EP has 36% population but only 122,490,253 kills, how efficient is the EP population at killing players?
If the total pop is boasted as being at 10 million, then EP has 3,600,000 players. Assuming all of them PVP (because I don't have the actual data on pvp numbers), we can say the following:
- EP has a pop of 3,600,000 and a kill count of 122,490,253.
- if you divide 122,490,253 by 3,600,000 and multiply by 100%, you will get an efficacy rating of 34%.
Thus, EP is 34% efficient at killing players. Impressive, but at 36% pop, this is terrible compared to DC and AD if you assume they have an equal 32% population (3,200,000 players each) compared to EP's 36%.
If i can get the kill rate for DC and AD numbers, we can see a full efficacy rating for all 3 alliances!
Player count and player character population are two different things though. The population across all platforms is 10 million individual players. The stats are for ebonheart characters. Meaning there could be much more than 3.6million EP characters, that doesn't mean there are 3.6 million playing ebonheart. It could be more, it could be less.
Also as to your efficiency rating it doesn't really apply again. You don't know how many of these players actually participate in PvP. It might only be 50% of that 36% that PvP. This would drive your proficiency rating percent up as well. (I know you said assuming but you really can't when you're talking about stats and how good an alliance is at killing lol)Edited by DeadlyPhoenix on April 2, 2018 6:14PM0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭DeadlyPhoenix wrote: »we need to know the metric of the other alliances before you can make that click bait.
if EP has 36% population but only 122,490,253 kills, how efficient is the EP population at killing players?
If the total pop is boasted as being at 10 million, then EP has 3,600,000 players. Assuming all of them PVP (because I don't have the actual data on pvp numbers), we can say the following:
- EP has a pop of 3,600,000 and a kill count of 122,490,253.
- if you divide 122,490,253 by 3,600,000 and multiply by 100%, you will get an efficacy rating of 34%.
Thus, EP is 34% efficient at killing players. Impressive, but at 36% pop, this is terrible compared to DC and AD if you assume they have an equal 32% population (3,200,000 players each) compared to EP's 36%.
If i can get the kill rate for DC and AD numbers, we can see a full efficacy rating for all 3 alliances!
Player count and player character population are two different things though. The population across all platforms is 10 million individual players. The stats are for ebonheart characters. Meaning there could be much more than 3.6million EP characters, that doesn't mean there are 3.6 million playing ebonheart. It could be more, it could be less.
Also as to your efficiency rating it doesn't really apply again. You don't know how many of these players actually participate in PvP. It might only be 50% of that 36% that PvP. This would drive your proficiency rating percent up as well. (I know you said assuming but you really can't when you're talking about stats and how good an alliance is at killing lol)
Would be great if we had actual PVP metrics. But then again with BGs, we can assume the entire EP pop has the ability to play them and thus has a chance to kill players!
But based on the pop percentage, DC and AD aren't that far behind EP. So im just having fun with the numbers that zos put together that don't show anything but we are all nerds having fun lol.Minno - DC - Forum-plar Extraordinaire
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DeadlyPhoenix✭✭✭✭✭DeadlyPhoenix wrote: »we need to know the metric of the other alliances before you can make that click bait.
if EP has 36% population but only 122,490,253 kills, how efficient is the EP population at killing players?
If the total pop is boasted as being at 10 million, then EP has 3,600,000 players. Assuming all of them PVP (because I don't have the actual data on pvp numbers), we can say the following:
- EP has a pop of 3,600,000 and a kill count of 122,490,253.
- if you divide 122,490,253 by 3,600,000 and multiply by 100%, you will get an efficacy rating of 34%.
Thus, EP is 34% efficient at killing players. Impressive, but at 36% pop, this is terrible compared to DC and AD if you assume they have an equal 32% population (3,200,000 players each) compared to EP's 36%.
If i can get the kill rate for DC and AD numbers, we can see a full efficacy rating for all 3 alliances!
Player count and player character population are two different things though. The population across all platforms is 10 million individual players. The stats are for ebonheart characters. Meaning there could be much more than 3.6million EP characters, that doesn't mean there are 3.6 million playing ebonheart. It could be more, it could be less.
Also as to your efficiency rating it doesn't really apply again. You don't know how many of these players actually participate in PvP. It might only be 50% of that 36% that PvP. This would drive your proficiency rating percent up as well. (I know you said assuming but you really can't when you're talking about stats and how good an alliance is at killing lol)
Would be great if we had actual PVP metrics. But then again with BGs, we can assume the entire EP pop has the ability to play them and thus has a chance to kill players!
But based on the pop percentage, DC and AD aren't that far behind EP. So im just having fun with the numbers that zos put together that don't show anything but we are all nerds having fun lol.
Haha I hear you there
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Aeladiir✭✭✭✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »We have the best battlecries: Remember the Chalamo!
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While I laughed and found it funny, it couldn't be farther from the truth.
EP: Hurrr durrr fricking Green Alliance
AD: Hurrr durrr fricking Purple Alliance
DC: Hurrr durrr fricki--- Oh. Wait. AD and EP never team up against DC.1 -
Nightfall12✭✭✭✭✭Total number of players killed: 1,346,033,201
is that unique characters?
because if its just player deaths. then I'm taking credit for at least a bunch of those….as in they were me getting killed when i first started pvpUmmm stuff… about stuff…or something.0 -
DeadlyPhoenix✭✭✭✭✭Now I know why they don't release all the stats, would cause forums to explode in an uproar over nerf this nerf that!
Remember my original post was in jest!!!! Was just a funny way (I thought) to ask for more stats!0 -
VilniusNastavnik✭✭✭✭✭QuebraRegra wrote: »VaranisArano wrote: »We have the best battlecries: Remember the Chalamo!
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that was certainly true this weekend... ah, pretty much anytime really. the red zerg!
Every time I looked, all 4 campaigns were blue. Not sure if we are playing different games or...Active Toons:
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NA - Ko'h Nehko'h - Stamblade Archer - Khajit
NA - Arwyn Winterlight - MagPlar Healer - Breton
NA - Urog Blackfang - DK Tank - Orc
NA - Elen Windsong - Stamsorc DPS - Bosmer
NA - Eats-Strange-Fungus - Magden HealzTank- Argonian
NA - Harwyn Northwind - MagWarden DPS - High Elf
NA - Raises-Many-Families - Necro HealzTank - Argonian
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