How much magic does a heavy attack restore using a destruction staff?

GoodFella146 · April 2017

It appears to be around 3-4k but I really can't tell here on console. Do any PC plays know or can they see something I can't?

Thanks

Lynx7386 · April 2017

Heavy attacks restore 10% of your max pool last I checked. That of course goes up with the passive that increases heavy attack returns

idk · April 2017

I haven't checked in awhile but I think it's significantly less than 10% of max magika. When they made it so all weapons would return the native stat with heavy attacks they made it a flat amount and I don't think they changed that. Will try to remember to check when I'm in game later.

Enemy-of-Coldharbour · April 2017

10%...I wish.

idk · April 2017

Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »

10%...I wish.

Yes. I think on line it might be around 1k+ with over 40k magika. Again, I think it's a flat amount.

Only the Rstaff ever returned resources based off max magika and that ended over 2 years ago iirc.

MyKillv2.0 · April 2017

I thought I heard Alcast or Gilliam mention once a heavy attack returns your resource recovery. So like if you have 1150 magic recovery, a heavy attack with a staff would grant you 1150.

STEVIL · April 2017

I was seeing 2905 regularly on my sorc with lightning gold staff just now when the heavies finish on my skellie. - cp max etc clearly some passives involved but that gives a ball park. Could be critting? Regular magica recovery tics in at like 1700 or so.

GoodFella146 · April 2017

Upon closer inspection it's about 2.8k though I can't get anymore specific than that. That seems like a weird number to pick if it's just a flat number. I tried increasing my recovery but that didn't change how much i got back, though I swear it was like 1.9k the first time I was looking. I likely just messed up since I can't reproduce that.

Anyone else get anything different?

Nestor · April 2017

Also, remember there are light attacks, fully charged heavy attacks and medium attacks. Most of us do Medium Attacks thinking they are heavy attacks. Add in the passives that restore magic on mob death, it can be quite hard to nail down just how much and when.

SublimeSparo · April 2017

Pretty sure its 5% unbuffed by anything

GoodFella146 · April 2017

Bump. Anyone have an exact figure?

Everstorm · April 2018

Sorry for the necro but I'm kindda baffled I can't seem to find any conclusive info on this. Mechanics behind this still unknown?

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO · April 2018

Everstorm wrote: »

Sorry for the necro but I'm kindda baffled I can't seem to find any conclusive info on this. Mechanics behind this still unknown?

The amount of resources you get back is different for each heavy attack and do not scale with anything but percentage amps, see the right side of this page, http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildEditor

Just in case you can't see it or are not able to access the site, here are the, before any percentage amp, base values-

Bow HA Stamina Restore 2724
Dual Wield HA Stamina Restore 1667
2H HA Stamina Restore 2426
1H+Shield HA Stamina Restore 2014
Fire/Frost HA Magicka Restore 2823
Shock HA Magicka Restore 3633
Restore HA Magicka Restore 3219
Werewolf HA Stamina Restore 1617

Everstorm · April 2018

Thanks.

Numerikuu · April 2018

As a flame stave user, nowhere near enough for the time it takes to charge.

Dracane · April 2018

Heavy attacks restore a fixed amount of Magicka. Almost nothing in the game restores percentages anymore, everything has been streamlined over the years.

Destruction heavy attacks have a base restoration of exactly 3632 without any CP and yes, I just checked that for you

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO · April 2018

Dracane wrote: »

Heavy attacks restore a fixed amount of Magicka. Almost nothing in the game restores percentages anymore, everything has been streamlined over the years.

Destruction heavy attacks have a base restoration of exactly 3632 without any CP and yes, I just checked that for you

That is a lightning heavy. Fire and ice return less because they are not a channel and are faster.

Runefang · April 2018

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

Heavy attacks restore a fixed amount of Magicka. Almost nothing in the game restores percentages anymore, everything has been streamlined over the years.

Destruction heavy attacks have a base restoration of exactly 3632 without any CP and yes, I just checked that for you

That is a lightning heavy. Fire and ice return less because they are not a channel and are faster.

Don't fire heavies take 2.2 seconds to charge while lightning takes 2.1?

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO · April 2018

Runefang wrote: »

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

Heavy attacks restore a fixed amount of Magicka. Almost nothing in the game restores percentages anymore, everything has been streamlined over the years.

Destruction heavy attacks have a base restoration of exactly 3632 without any CP and yes, I just checked that for you

That is a lightning heavy. Fire and ice return less because they are not a channel and are faster.

Don't fire heavies take 2.2 seconds to charge while lightning takes 2.1?

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/347165/heavy-attacks-a-100-millisecond-breakdown-of-the-breakdown-of-combat/p1

Kuramas9tails · April 2018

All I know is that the restoration staff passive increase magic gain from light and heavy attacks (I think 25%) so I do that when I use a resto backbar and need magic back asap without a potion available (PVP and PVE). A Destro light and heavy seem very small in comparison.

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO · April 2018

Kuramas9tails wrote: »

All I know is that the restoration staff passive increase magic gain from light and heavy attacks (I think 25%) so I do that when I use a resto backbar and need magic back asap without a potion available (PVP and PVE). A Destro light and heavy seem very small in comparison.

it is a 30% increase, http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Cycle_of_Life, and course it is going to feel like more, base resto heavys restore 3219 magic, with the passive, it is 4184 mag. almost 1000 more magic then a destros return, the point of a destro heavy over a resto heavy is that it does more damage too.

not sure what role has a resto as a back bar though, healers would have it front bar and dps ought not use it.

kringled_1 · April 2018

Resto back bar is a very common magicka pvp configuration.

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO · April 2018

kringled_1 wrote: »

Resto back bar is a very common magicka pvp configuration.

not sure what role has a resto as a back bar though, healers would have it front bar and dps ought not use it.

not sure what role has a resto as a back bar though

not sure what role

role

"magicka pvp" is a not a role.

kringled_1 · April 2018

Agreed it's not a role. Is your point that you don't understand any circumstances where someone might use a resto back bar or are you just putting up super specific questions so you can play forum gotcha? Kuramas posts enough that I know they play mag nb in pvp, and often duoing dungeons which means trying to cover multiple roles.