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Warden...ugh

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ol_BANK_lo
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The shear number of stam wardens grinding and in under 50 BGs is a good indicator that the stam warden is stupid OP...in case you need anymore evidence. Let's put 8 of them into one match. @ZOS_Wrobel
  • Skander
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    They won't nerf it

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  • Uviryth
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    Wait, when did Warden get OP?
    A month ago he was at the bottom in all speccs.

    The only thing he could do was burst people in PvP with Cliffracers.
  • Checkmath
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    OP is talking about pvp, where magwardens are decent and stamwarden very popular atm.
  • VaranisArano
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    Uviryth wrote: »
    Wait, when did Warden get OP?
    A month ago he was at the bottom in all speccs.

    The only thing he could do was burst people in PvP with Cliffracers.

    Stam Warden with shalks and 2 handed has always been good at burst damage.
  • cazlonb16_ESO
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    Checkmath wrote: »
    OP is talking about pvp, where magwardens are decent and stamwarden very popular atm.

    Maybe in BGs, in Cyro they're still exceedingly rare. Almost a year after Morrowind release i kinda doubt that's because everyone is still leveling theirs...
  • arkansas_ESO
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    cazlonb16_ESO wrote: »
    Checkmath wrote: »
    OP is talking about pvp, where magwardens are decent and stamwarden very popular atm.

    Maybe in BGs, in Cyro they're still exceedingly rare. Almost a year after Morrowind release i kinda doubt that's because everyone is still leveling theirs...

    I have no clue what server or what times you play on, because stam warden is one of the most common specs I encounter
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    cazlonb16_ESO wrote: »
    Checkmath wrote: »
    OP is talking about pvp, where magwardens are decent and stamwarden very popular atm.

    Maybe in BGs, in Cyro they're still exceedingly rare. Almost a year after Morrowind release i kinda doubt that's because everyone is still leveling theirs...

    Mostly because why go to that laggy mess when you can dominate 8 nerds in a BG. :)
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  • CatchMeTrolling
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    arkansas_ESO wrote: »
    cazlonb16_ESO wrote: »
    Checkmath wrote: »
    OP is talking about pvp, where magwardens are decent and stamwarden very popular atm.

    Maybe in BGs, in Cyro they're still exceedingly rare. Almost a year after Morrowind release i kinda doubt that's because everyone is still leveling theirs...

    I have no clue what server or what times you play on, because stam warden is one of the most common specs I encounter

    Like him I rarely see wardens besides the usual ones. Other than that it’s a bunch of nbs, magplars, sorcs and dks. If anything stamplar is the rarest spec for me to see.

  • Mattoxx96
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    Stam wardens have dropped in popularity since dragon bones patch, I hardly see them now, everyones just playing stam NBs. They are OP af though.
  • ol_BANK_lo
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    I find them everywhere. Imagine several wardens in a small group of Deathmatch or Chaosball spamming Sub Assault, healing trees (or whatever they're called) and an occasional mag warden with that stupid freeze ulti. If you don't play BGs, you may not notice it as much, but open world they are stupid with their burst and cheap healing ults.
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    BANK_IT_HERE wrote: »
    The shear number of stam wardens grinding and in under 50 BGs is a good indicator that the stam warden is stupid OP...in case you need anymore evidence. Let's put 8 of them into one match. @ZOS_Wrobel

    Anyone who didnt have morrowind and prepurchased summerset got morrowind for free and are now rolling wardens.

    Xp weekend so everyone else is leveling classes they dont have yet

    Its literally that simple
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    DarkAedin wrote: »
    BANK_IT_HERE wrote: »
    The shear number of stam wardens grinding and in under 50 BGs is a good indicator that the stam warden is stupid OP...in case you need anymore evidence. Let's put 8 of them into one match. @ZOS_Wrobel

    Anyone who didnt have morrowind and prepurchased summerset got morrowind for free and are now rolling wardens.

    Xp weekend so everyone else is leveling classes they dont have yet

    Its literally that simple

    ^ This...

    Which is why I said they are all over under 50 BGs and grinding.
  • IZZEFlameLash
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    Checkmath wrote: »
    OP is talking about pvp, where magwardens are decent and stamwarden very popular atm.

    You see way more NBs, both magicka and stamina, than warden of any specs. They are more evenly distributed along with other classes. There are more stamblades in BGs than any other because proc set glory never faded in no CP.
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  • Adenoma
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    I would kill more on stamNB than I do on stamwarden. I would contribute less to groups, but have a vastly more successful solo play. Both are overtuned presently.
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  • Thunderknuckles
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    cazlonb16_ESO wrote: »
    Checkmath wrote: »
    OP is talking about pvp, where magwardens are decent and stamwarden very popular atm.

    Maybe in BGs, in Cyro they're still exceedingly rare. Almost a year after Morrowind release i kinda doubt that's because everyone is still leveling theirs...

    I...wait....exceedingly rare? What am I seeing then? Easily 25%, maybe 30, of the characters I see in Cyro are bunny hopping around with their little netches right behind'em.
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    Adenoma wrote: »
    I would kill more on stamNB than I do on stamwarden. I would contribute less to groups, but have a vastly more successful solo play. Both are overtuned presently.

    nah u lying.
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    Hey, the last time people went around saying Stam warden is OP, mag got a nerf
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  • Skander
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    Nerf crystalized shield. Make it not return magicka anymore.
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  • dodgehopper_ESO
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    Stop the Warden hate.
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    Wardens are extremely OP except for one thing...

    stam NBs.

    Stam NBs / Incap are a hard counter to wardens.

    and right now there are so many Stam NBs that people don't want ot play wardens, despite the fact that wardens tear up everything other than stam NBs (and stale with Mag NBs).
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  • Domander
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    I've seen groups of stam wardens.
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    Domander wrote: »
    I've seen groups of stam wardens.

    I've seen groups of mag sorcs. I've seen groups with 4-5 Mag Dks with one Mag Templar. I've been ganked by 4 stamblades all at once. None of this has any say on balance.
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    1. MrDenimChicken
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      Dyride wrote: »
      Domander wrote: »
      I've seen groups of stam wardens.

      I've seen groups of mag sorcs. I've seen groups with 4-5 Mag Dks with one Mag Templar. I've been ganked by 4 stamblades all at once. None of this has any say on balance.

      but you can still tell what is fotm based on seeing lots of one class in the pro roaming groups in cyrodil, and right now on console most of those pro groups have stam wardens, stam templars, and mag templars
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      Woah woah, before you start praying to the nerfgod please remember, Warden is the worst class in PvE in every regard. So if they nerf something it has to be very clever, plus accomodated with buffs to PvEcapabilities. And we all know Zenimax likes to use hammers and crowbars instead of surgical tools.

      @Amount of Wardens in PvP: Are you sure its not just a mirage? You know, Wardens are very flashy with the Netch, the Bear and the Tree. They stick out. Maybe the 25% Wardens you see is really just one or two.
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