Thoughts on new Jewelry Trait? Will it change the current Meta build?

GazettE · March 2018

What do you think guys?

Mic1007 · March 2018

Which one? The execute damage one or the synergy one? Have they announced others?

I'm excited to see the rest myself.

ak_pvp · March 2018

Almost definitely. There are 6 new traits. The bloodthirsty one will definitely affect some builds. I am thinking depending on its strength, a Magplar may run it, because of the focus on execute.

GazettE · March 2018

Mic1007 wrote: »

Which one? The execute damage one or the synergy one? Have they announced others?

I'm excited to see the rest myself.

Not yet, but there are 6 new traits. Alot of possibilities. Im pretty sure one of it would be game changer for current meta.

jedtb16_ESO · March 2018

more variation, more choice. all good.

xbobx · March 2018

on your 15th trait researching, please wait 500 days for research.

but you can buy a research all on the crown store for only 30000 crowns

jaws343 · March 2018

I am working on a heavy attack DK PVP build that will benefit from the bloodthirsty trait since the DK lacks an execute. That trait in addition to the CP passive that adds damage to light and heavy attacks on targets under 25% health may pair really well together. Will have to wait and see how effective the new traits really are. It could end up being that losing the resources from the original 3 traits may not be worth it.

shinikaze · March 2018

I would love a trait that boost/ or deal dots. My toxic (dot) nb will love it!

srfrogg23 · March 2018

Why, yes. Yes it will.

Lord_Eomer · March 2018

xbobx wrote: »

on your 15th trait researching, please wait 500 days for research.

but you can buy a research all on the crown store for only 30000 crowns

6 new and 3 existing = 9 traits!

jedtb16_ESO · March 2018

xbobx wrote: »

on your 15th trait researching, please wait 500 days for research.

but you can buy a research all on the crown store for only 30000 crowns

really?

cool, i'll buy some crowns now.

AlnilamE · March 2018

xbobx wrote: »

on your 15th trait researching, please wait 500 days for research.

but you can buy a research all on the crown store for only 30000 crowns

Without any time reduction passives or ESO+ research times are 6h, 12h, 24h, 2d, 4d, 8d, 16d, 32d, 64d
That's per item and jewelry has 2 items. You can reduce that time up to 20% by investing skill points in passives, including the passive that caps research time at 30 days.

And that's not counting the 10% reduction from ESO plus.

And I'm sure we'll be able to buy research scrolls with vouchers like we can for other items.

NewBlacksmurf · March 2018

the meta will change due to ZOS dev changes.....jewelry crafting wont be the reason....90-180 dev changes are always the reason....

But what is this meta talk anyways, oh...cause the devs removed overcharge and soft and hard caps long ago...gotcha

Nemesis7884 · March 2018

of course it will change the meta - NOTHING will stop me with my yellow power ring HAHAHAHA

Jolipinator · March 2018

The trait that reduces research times is the only one that metas.

xbobx · March 2018

AlnilamE wrote: »

xbobx wrote: »

on your 15th trait researching, please wait 500 days for research.

but you can buy a research all on the crown store for only 30000 crowns

Without any time reduction passives or ESO+ research times are 6h, 12h, 24h, 2d, 4d, 8d, 16d, 32d, 64d
That's per item and jewelry has 2 items. You can reduce that time up to 20% by investing skill points in passives, including the passive that caps research time at 30 days.

And that's not counting the 10% reduction from ESO plus.

And I'm sure we'll be able to buy research scrolls with vouchers like we can for other items.

i was being sarcastic

xbobx · March 2018

yes it will change the meta. Yes on the trait, and yes on teh ability to run 2 5 piece bonus on crafted sets

geonsocal · March 2018

man, there is gonna be some crazy dolmen farming going on to pick up those new traits to research and craft with...

I've already stopped selling off green and blue jewelry just to have a stockpile to deconstruct once summerset opens...

PlagueSD · March 2018

Adding more choices will always affect the "meta". You'll have more freedom with crafted sets now.

Destruent · March 2018

ak_pvp wrote: »

Almost definitely. There are 6 new traits. The bloodthirsty one will definitely affect some builds. I am thinking depending on its strength, a Magplar may run it, because of the focus on execute.

I'm pretty sure, ESO maths will destroy this. e.g. if the trait grants you 10% more dmg under 25% (numbers completely random) it will increase templar-execute DPS from 300% bonus to 310% bonus...so it's like 3% at worst.
Even worse for Nightblades and most likely strongest for sorcs (bc they have an execute without persentage-scaling) and DKs (bc no execute at all)
Magicka builds should generally benefit more than stamina, bc stamina has lots of passive-execute mechanics while magicka hasn't.

xbobx wrote: »

yes it will change the meta. Yes on the trait, and yes on teh ability to run 2 5 piece bonus on crafted sets

Pvp-wise, ok...if it's THE big gamechanger idk...
PvE-wise i can only really think of one strong combination (hundings/NMG) which isn't really stronger than NMG/ophi. So it will be nice for some who can't get the jewelry but i doubt it's that much more (atleast pve-wise...could be different in pvp).

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

the meta will change due to ZOS dev changes.....jewelry crafting wont be the reason....90-180 dev changes are always the reason....

But what is this meta talk anyways, oh...cause the devs removed overcharge and soft and hard caps long ago...gotcha

There was a meta/BiS-build before 1.6...

Zorgon_The_Revenged · March 2018

I thought it was 3 new traits, making 6 in total?

Edit: I rewatched the eso live and it's 6 new making 9 in total, but there was only mention of the bloodthirsty trait.

BigBadVolk · March 2018

Nemesis7884 wrote: »

of course it will change the meta - NOTHING will stop me with my yellow power ring HAHAHAHA

Calm down Sinestro!

Also ye just a guess but lets wait out the rest of the traits: I'd say 1 harmony and 2 bloodthirsty for pve dps could be "bis" or more likely viable

Bhaal5 · March 2018

All they really confirmed is that its hidden behind a paywall. Nice little p2w touch there

Aebaradath · March 2018

Isn't the current meta just using intricate gear?

I think we'll be fine.

Numerikuu · March 2018

If it doesn't then the next round of nerfs sure will.

Silver_Strider · March 2018

Chances are they'll nerf Robust/Arcane/Healthy to balance them out against the new traits, so most likely they'll be a shift in the meta as a result.

NewBlacksmurf · March 2018

Destruent wrote: »

ak_pvp wrote: »

Almost definitely. There are 6 new traits. The bloodthirsty one will definitely affect some builds. I am thinking depending on its strength, a Magplar may run it, because of the focus on execute.

I'm pretty sure, ESO maths will destroy this. e.g. if the trait grants you 10% more dmg under 25% (numbers completely random) it will increase templar-execute DPS from 300% bonus to 310% bonus...so it's like 3% at worst.
Even worse for Nightblades and most likely strongest for sorcs (bc they have an execute without persentage-scaling) and DKs (bc no execute at all)
Magicka builds should generally benefit more than stamina, bc stamina has lots of passive-execute mechanics while magicka hasn't.

xbobx wrote: »

yes it will change the meta. Yes on the trait, and yes on teh ability to run 2 5 piece bonus on crafted sets

Pvp-wise, ok...if it's THE big gamechanger idk...
PvE-wise i can only really think of one strong combination (hundings/NMG) which isn't really stronger than NMG/ophi. So it will be nice for some who can't get the jewelry but i doubt it's that much more (atleast pve-wise...could be different in pvp).

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

the meta will change due to ZOS dev changes.....jewelry crafting wont be the reason....90-180 dev changes are always the reason....

But what is this meta talk anyways, oh...cause the devs removed overcharge and soft and hard caps long ago...gotcha

There was a meta/BiS-build before 1.6...

Sure there was always a best in slot but I disagree that there was a meta. @Destruent

To clarify, the game had soft and hard caps which pushed players to be diverse rather than all stam or all mag builds even with your gear you had to mix and match health, mag and or stam depending on traits, enchants and food buffs.

No longer is any of that the case which was developer driven. I recall the players pointing out “magic” was stronger than stam because most skills used mag vs stam and armor didn’t matter so everyone tended to wear mostly light...

Either way my point was long ago there were many viable build options vs now where there is truly a meta driven by the dev changes.
Release to 1.4 maybe 1.5 i forget so I’ll use your reference to 1.6 as accurate but whatever the update number it was when overcharge was removed completely and the armor changes and VR max was vr14- vr16

GazettE · March 2018

Its gonna be harder for them to0 balance PvP and PvE then with all these new jewelry traits

Sooo, brace yourself, i can see nerfstorm is coming

generalmyrick · March 2018

meta does not exist...

its propaganda by youtubers.

Savos_Saren · March 2018

Two things about blood thirsty trait:
-A magSorc could benefit tremendously from it since the loss of “arcane” can be made up with the Necropotence set. Imagine Mage’s Wrath (active execute), Implosion (passive execute), and blood thirsty rings (trait execute).

- A magDK won’t benefit from this at all since they need all the magic they can get. They don’t really have the option to use Necropotence, either. Furthermore, they have no active or passive execute to stack with blood thirsty rings...