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Block casting is killing ESO pvp. ZOS watch this video!!
I have written before about block casting and I am sure you all have heard and read about block casting. I am over trying to convince block casters the damage they are doing to the game. I want ZOS to watch this video and listen to how this guy describes pvp in Cyrodiil and tell us this is what you intend. I still play play PvP but only in non CP battle grounds, however battle grounds is dominated by Animation Canceling. So at this point me and a great deal of other players have had enough. Block casting and animation canceling has to go!!
Okay people want to act stupid like they can’t see what is going on in the video. Watch the block casting templars in the video! What the heck is that! How is that reasonable! Rhetorical questions. It is why zergs avoid each other.
https://youtu.be/TJy4p2kRIFY
Edited by Smithernest54 on March 26, 2018 10:48PM Okay people want to act stupid like they can’t see what is going on in the video. Watch the block casting templars in the video! What the heck is that! How is that reasonable! Rhetorical questions. It is why zergs avoid each other.
https://youtu.be/TJy4p2kRIFY 1
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Waffennacht✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭It's called LoS + lack of defile
Yeah roll Dodge is also super strong with most abilities being dodgeable now
You also would have to interrupt a Stam sorc's conversion, but if he's LoSing and people are running around the rock, it's not gonna happen.
Here you see experienced play vs non experienced play
Edit: plus, lol, he's using immovable pots, a big ol stack of emEdited by Waffennacht on March 26, 2018 8:36PM5 -
rteezy✭✭✭Smithernest54 wrote: »I have written before about block casting and I am sure you all have heard and read about block casting. I am over trying to convince block casters the damage they are doing to the game. I want ZOS to watch this video and listen to how this guy describes pvp in Cyrodiil and tell us this is what you intend. I still play play PvP but only in non CP battle grounds, however battle grounds is dominated by Animation Canceling. So at this point me and a great deal of other players have had enough. Block casting and animation canceling has to go!!https://youtu.be/TJy4p2kRIFY
i can see your point on block casting...but animation canceling? why?!
i only see pros on it, with the only con being a crappy conection but even then you can animation cancel.
It has existed since online pvp games were a thing, it will ALWAYS exist for as long as there is no gcd AND animations..it ADDS a skillcapp to the game which is a good thign for ANY competitive pvp'r.. i dont see WHY or WHEN it would ever be bad..3 -
Animation canceling use to be way worst. ZOS has said and tried to eliminate it, but players find new ways. Animation Canceling is not skill that was the argument players use to use at the peak of animation canceling. Not all classes have animation canceling and it has no real counter play, because you don’t see it coming. I am pretty sure AC is not intended. It’s not bad to you, because you use it.2
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✭✭✭✭✭Smithernest54 wrote: »Animation canceling use to be way worst. ZOS has said and tried to eliminate it, but players find new ways. Animation Canceling is not skill that was the argument players use to use at the peak of animation canceling. Not all classes have animation canceling and it has no real counter play, because you don’t see it coming. I am pretty sure AC is not intended. It’s not bad to you, because you use it.
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Waffennacht wrote: »Smithernest54 wrote: »Animation canceling use to be way worst. ZOS has said and tried to eliminate it, but players find new ways. Animation Canceling is not skill that was the argument players use to use at the peak of animation canceling. Not all classes have animation canceling and it has no real counter play, because you don’t see it coming. I am pretty sure AC is not intended. It’s not bad to you, because you use it.
/Facepalm
Facepalm and dismiss all you like it is true. It will be your echo box of a game.0 -
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✭✭*Joins game 2 months ago, spews nonsense about stuff he know nothing about.
SMH at people these day...10 -
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✭✭KingYogi415 wrote: »*Joins game 2 months ago, spews nonsense about stuff he know nothing about.
SMH at people these day...
Agreed, that entire video was hard to watch in relation to the point you were trying to make.
@Smithernest54 with all due respect you are completely disconnected with what is really occuring with this games combat system and your video is evidence enough of this.
Instant cast abilities are instant so there is no issue with block casting since regardless of the animation you see on screen, abilities like BOL resolve instantly the moment you hit the ability, and thus the gcd kicks in, amd since ESO makes sure you always have agency in defensive options, you are allowed to block, dodge amd bar swap during the GCD. And for casted and channeled abilites, you cant block cast them anyways since the moment you hit block you interrupt the channel or cast bar.
Im sure you mean well and want the game to be as good as possible, but you dont seem to be in a position to actually discuss this topic since you are failing to understand key components to the games combat system at its core.Edited by exeeter702 on March 26, 2018 9:23PM8 -
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✭✭Smithernest54 wrote: »Animation canceling use to be way worst. ZOS has said and tried to eliminate it, but players find new ways. Animation Canceling is not skill that was the argument players use to use at the peak of animation canceling. Not all classes have animation canceling and it has no real counter play, because you don’t see it coming. I am pretty sure AC is not intended. It’s not bad to you, because you use it.
Again this post right here speaks volumes not in your favor of the topic.2 -
KingYogi415 wrote: »*Joins game 2 months ago, spews nonsense about stuff he know nothing about.
SMH at people these day...
I’m a day one player. Here I am shaking my head at you. Ironic.0 -
exeeter702 wrote: »Smithernest54 wrote: »Animation canceling use to be way worst. ZOS has said and tried to eliminate it, but players find new ways. Animation Canceling is not skill that was the argument players use to use at the peak of animation canceling. Not all classes have animation canceling and it has no real counter play, because you don’t see it coming. I am pretty sure AC is not intended. It’s not bad to you, because you use it.
Again this post right here speaks volumes not in your favor of the topic.
In what way. Enlighten me.0 -
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exeeter702 wrote: »KingYogi415 wrote: »*Joins game 2 months ago, spews nonsense about stuff he know nothing about.
SMH at people these day...
Agreed, that entire video was hard to watch in relation to the point you were trying to make.
@Smithernest54 with all due respect you are completely disconnected with what is really occuring with this games combat system and your video is evidence enough of this.
Instant cast abilities are instant so there is no issue with block casting since regardless of the animation you see on screen, abilities like BOL resolve instantly the moment you hit the ability, and thus the gcd kicks in, amd since ESO makes sure you always have agency in defensive options, you are allowed to block, dodge amd bar swap during the GCD. And for casted and channeled abilites, you cant block cast them anyways since the moment you hit block you interrupt the channel or cast bar.
Im sure you mean well and want the game to be as good as possible, but you dont seem to be in a position to actually discuss this topic since you are failing to understand key components to the games combat system at its core.
Really. This is an ESO forum, it is a discussion site where people can talk about anything they like about ESO. I am tired of players who think they know better. I know what the global cool Down is I have 8 full build characters, I have circumvented tamrial. What cridential do I need to make a post? I don’t! However, I do mean well, but people like you see a post about block casting and visciously try to discredit, belittle, and troll the author.
Your bit of info does not say anything for the justification for block casting. I’m not even going to entertain it nice try.
The point is you should not be able to block and perform any other function at the same time. Period!Edited by Smithernest54 on March 26, 2018 9:54PM0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭exeeter702 wrote: »KingYogi415 wrote: »*Joins game 2 months ago, spews nonsense about stuff he know nothing about.
SMH at people these day...
Agreed, that entire video was hard to watch in relation to the point you were trying to make.
@Smithernest54 with all due respect you are completely disconnected with what is really occuring with this games combat system and your video is evidence enough of this.
Instant cast abilities are instant so there is no issue with block casting since regardless of the animation you see on screen, abilities like BOL resolve instantly the moment you hit the ability, and thus the gcd kicks in, amd since ESO makes sure you always have agency in defensive options, you are allowed to block, dodge amd bar swap during the GCD. And for casted and channeled abilites, you cant block cast them anyways since the moment you hit block you interrupt the channel or cast bar.
Im sure you mean well and want the game to be as good as possible, but you dont seem to be in a position to actually discuss this topic since you are failing to understand key components to the games combat system at its core.
@exeeter702Smithernest54 wrote: »Animation canceling use to be way worst. ZOS has said and tried to eliminate it, but players find new ways. Animation Canceling is not skill that was the argument players use to use at the peak of animation canceling. Not all classes have animation canceling and it has no real counter play, because you don’t see it coming. I am pretty sure AC is not intended. It’s not bad to you, because you use it.
You tried, but honestly you’re wasting your time.
The op is not open to hearing any form of reasoning that is at odds with what they’ve convinced themselves of.
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Black Desert Online is coming to Xbox, PS4, and switch and I know too many people who are sick of BC and AC who are planning to jump ship. You guys who defending these obviously unintended features are going to be playing with only each other and I doubt you players are going to stick around after that thus killing the game entirely. ESO is on a time limit. ZOS better get with it.0
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✭Blocking and using offensive spells other than sword and shield i could see, but would kill a lot of builds and i think the revision of the block formula did great to fix blocking non stop. You don't need to block cast to be unkillable, los is the true victor there. REMOVE TREES, REMOVE ALL TERRAIN, NO POSTS OR DOORWAYS OR HALLS CORRIDORS RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE!
Animation canceling is the game, if you don't do it it'son you.2 -
Brutusmax1mus wrote: »Blocking and using offensive spells other than sword and shield i could see, but would kill a lot of builds and i think the revision of the block formula did great to fix blocking non stop. You don't need to block cast to be unkillable, los is the true victor there. REMOVE TREES, REMOVE ALL TERRAIN, NO POSTS OR DOORWAYS OR HALLS CORRIDORS RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE!
Animation canceling is the game, if you don't do it it'son you.
I think my main issues with AC is stam blades and the overperformance of Incap. If they nerf Incap I will think about AC. I do use AC myself most people do, but stam nightblades put a whole new level to it. From what I’ve seen. So for now I will admit maybe I miss spoke on AC and I will digress on that.0 -
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✭exeeter702 wrote: »KingYogi415 wrote: »*Joins game 2 months ago, spews nonsense about stuff he know nothing about.
SMH at people these day...
Agreed, that entire video was hard to watch in relation to the point you were trying to make.
@Smithernest54 with all due respect you are completely disconnected with what is really occuring with this games combat system and your video is evidence enough of this.
Instant cast abilities are instant so there is no issue with block casting since regardless of the animation you see on screen, abilities like BOL resolve instantly the moment you hit the ability, and thus the gcd kicks in, amd since ESO makes sure you always have agency in defensive options, you are allowed to block, dodge amd bar swap during the GCD. And for casted and channeled abilites, you cant block cast them anyways since the moment you hit block you interrupt the channel or cast bar.
Im sure you mean well and want the game to be as good as possible, but you dont seem to be in a position to actually discuss this topic since you are failing to understand key components to the games combat system at its core.
@exeeter702Smithernest54 wrote: »Animation canceling use to be way worst. ZOS has said and tried to eliminate it, but players find new ways. Animation Canceling is not skill that was the argument players use to use at the peak of animation canceling. Not all classes have animation canceling and it has no real counter play, because you don’t see it coming. I am pretty sure AC is not intended. It’s not bad to you, because you use it.
You tried, but honestly you’re wasting your time.
The op is not open to hearing any form of reasoning that is at odds with what they’ve convinced themselves of.
Considering they made a similar thread about it here a while ago, seems like they're trying to rehash already debunked arguments.Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies!2 -
IndyWendieGo wrote: »exeeter702 wrote: »KingYogi415 wrote: »*Joins game 2 months ago, spews nonsense about stuff he know nothing about.
SMH at people these day...
Agreed, that entire video was hard to watch in relation to the point you were trying to make.
@Smithernest54 with all due respect you are completely disconnected with what is really occuring with this games combat system and your video is evidence enough of this.
Instant cast abilities are instant so there is no issue with block casting since regardless of the animation you see on screen, abilities like BOL resolve instantly the moment you hit the ability, and thus the gcd kicks in, amd since ESO makes sure you always have agency in defensive options, you are allowed to block, dodge amd bar swap during the GCD. And for casted and channeled abilites, you cant block cast them anyways since the moment you hit block you interrupt the channel or cast bar.
Im sure you mean well and want the game to be as good as possible, but you dont seem to be in a position to actually discuss this topic since you are failing to understand key components to the games combat system at its core.
@exeeter702Smithernest54 wrote: »Animation canceling use to be way worst. ZOS has said and tried to eliminate it, but players find new ways. Animation Canceling is not skill that was the argument players use to use at the peak of animation canceling. Not all classes have animation canceling and it has no real counter play, because you don’t see it coming. I am pretty sure AC is not intended. It’s not bad to you, because you use it.
You tried, but honestly you’re wasting your time.
The op is not open to hearing any form of reasoning that is at odds with what they’ve convinced themselves of.
Considering they made a similar thread about it here a while ago, seems like they're trying to rehash already debunked arguments.
Nothing was debunked. I am only showing
one of many videos that are on YouTube demonstrating these block casting Templars killing the game.
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✭That vid's description smh. Why don't we change the game to where fists deal 100k oblivion damage so we can fist or get fisted in 1 sec?Imperials, the one and true masters of all mortal races of Tamriel0 -
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✭Smithernest54 wrote: »IndyWendieGo wrote: »exeeter702 wrote: »KingYogi415 wrote: »*Joins game 2 months ago, spews nonsense about stuff he know nothing about.
SMH at people these day...
Agreed, that entire video was hard to watch in relation to the point you were trying to make.
@Smithernest54 with all due respect you are completely disconnected with what is really occuring with this games combat system and your video is evidence enough of this.
Instant cast abilities are instant so there is no issue with block casting since regardless of the animation you see on screen, abilities like BOL resolve instantly the moment you hit the ability, and thus the gcd kicks in, amd since ESO makes sure you always have agency in defensive options, you are allowed to block, dodge amd bar swap during the GCD. And for casted and channeled abilites, you cant block cast them anyways since the moment you hit block you interrupt the channel or cast bar.
Im sure you mean well and want the game to be as good as possible, but you dont seem to be in a position to actually discuss this topic since you are failing to understand key components to the games combat system at its core.
@exeeter702Smithernest54 wrote: »Animation canceling use to be way worst. ZOS has said and tried to eliminate it, but players find new ways. Animation Canceling is not skill that was the argument players use to use at the peak of animation canceling. Not all classes have animation canceling and it has no real counter play, because you don’t see it coming. I am pretty sure AC is not intended. It’s not bad to you, because you use it.
You tried, but honestly you’re wasting your time.
The op is not open to hearing any form of reasoning that is at odds with what they’ve convinced themselves of.
Considering they made a similar thread about it here a while ago, seems like they're trying to rehash already debunked arguments.
Nothing was debunked.
Based on the thread you made along with this one, it's pretty much debunked. Especially by the people who tried to reason with you in other threads. All I can say is if you're running to BDO; Need help packing?Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies!3 -
IndyWendieGo wrote: »Smithernest54 wrote: »IndyWendieGo wrote: »exeeter702 wrote: »KingYogi415 wrote: »*Joins game 2 months ago, spews nonsense about stuff he know nothing about.
SMH at people these day...
Agreed, that entire video was hard to watch in relation to the point you were trying to make.
@Smithernest54 with all due respect you are completely disconnected with what is really occuring with this games combat system and your video is evidence enough of this.
Instant cast abilities are instant so there is no issue with block casting since regardless of the animation you see on screen, abilities like BOL resolve instantly the moment you hit the ability, and thus the gcd kicks in, amd since ESO makes sure you always have agency in defensive options, you are allowed to block, dodge amd bar swap during the GCD. And for casted and channeled abilites, you cant block cast them anyways since the moment you hit block you interrupt the channel or cast bar.
Im sure you mean well and want the game to be as good as possible, but you dont seem to be in a position to actually discuss this topic since you are failing to understand key components to the games combat system at its core.
@exeeter702Smithernest54 wrote: »Animation canceling use to be way worst. ZOS has said and tried to eliminate it, but players find new ways. Animation Canceling is not skill that was the argument players use to use at the peak of animation canceling. Not all classes have animation canceling and it has no real counter play, because you don’t see it coming. I am pretty sure AC is not intended. It’s not bad to you, because you use it.
You tried, but honestly you’re wasting your time.
The op is not open to hearing any form of reasoning that is at odds with what they’ve convinced themselves of.
Considering they made a similar thread about it here a while ago, seems like they're trying to rehash already debunked arguments.
Nothing was debunked.
Based on the thread you made along with this one, it's pretty much debunked. Especially by the people who tried to reason with you in other threads. All I can say is if you're running to BDO; Need help packing?
I’m not trying to convince you, I just want ZOS to watch the video. If you need block casting BoL to be relevant then that is a lack in your skill and critical thinking. The Templars in the video had no rotation, no skill, and nearly unkillable. In the video there was a handful. Multiple that by a Zerg and that is what Cyrodiil has turned into. The only debunking is convincing you lot of trash players how broken the system is. My goal is to get ZOS to pay attention to this junk. But keep commenting it helps getting the attention.0 -
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✭Smithernest54 wrote: »IndyWendieGo wrote: »Smithernest54 wrote: »IndyWendieGo wrote: »exeeter702 wrote: »KingYogi415 wrote: »*Joins game 2 months ago, spews nonsense about stuff he know nothing about.
SMH at people these day...
Agreed, that entire video was hard to watch in relation to the point you were trying to make.
@Smithernest54 with all due respect you are completely disconnected with what is really occuring with this games combat system and your video is evidence enough of this.
Instant cast abilities are instant so there is no issue with block casting since regardless of the animation you see on screen, abilities like BOL resolve instantly the moment you hit the ability, and thus the gcd kicks in, amd since ESO makes sure you always have agency in defensive options, you are allowed to block, dodge amd bar swap during the GCD. And for casted and channeled abilites, you cant block cast them anyways since the moment you hit block you interrupt the channel or cast bar.
Im sure you mean well and want the game to be as good as possible, but you dont seem to be in a position to actually discuss this topic since you are failing to understand key components to the games combat system at its core.
@exeeter702Smithernest54 wrote: »Animation canceling use to be way worst. ZOS has said and tried to eliminate it, but players find new ways. Animation Canceling is not skill that was the argument players use to use at the peak of animation canceling. Not all classes have animation canceling and it has no real counter play, because you don’t see it coming. I am pretty sure AC is not intended. It’s not bad to you, because you use it.
You tried, but honestly you’re wasting your time.
The op is not open to hearing any form of reasoning that is at odds with what they’ve convinced themselves of.
Considering they made a similar thread about it here a while ago, seems like they're trying to rehash already debunked arguments.
Nothing was debunked.
Based on the thread you made along with this one, it's pretty much debunked. Especially by the people who tried to reason with you in other threads. All I can say is if you're running to BDO; Need help packing?
I’m not trying to convince you, I just want ZOS to watch the video. If you need block casting BoL to be relevant then that is a lack in your skill and critical thinking. The Templars in the video had no rotation, no skill, and nearly unkillable. In the video there was a handful. Multiple that by a Zerg and that is what Cyrodiil has turned into. The only debunking is convincing you lot of trash players how broken the system is. My goal is to get ZOS to pay attention to this junk. But keep commenting it helps getting the attention.
Cool story, brah.Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies!0 -
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^^Smithernest54 wrote: »It is not so much Incap that needs a nerf, it is animation canceling.
This guy.Edited by ak_pvp on March 27, 2018 6:35PMMagDK main. PC/EU @AK-ESO
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✭✭✭Players that think PvP is 1v1 and then come to the forum and complain are the real issue. So lets nerf stam wardens!
I only watched a few minutes of the video.
If a healer is reviving everyone, don't you think they should be the primary target to kill? The guy in the video spent 2+ minutes talking about a healer and all I could think is "KILL THE HEALER".
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