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Life time Subscription

Thevampirenight
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Do you think they should add a buy able lifetime subscription?
Edited by Thevampirenight on March 26, 2018 12:36AM
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Life time Subscription 194 votes

Yes!
37%
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No
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Only if it saves me money
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They should just remove subscription all together
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  • starkerealm
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    It'd be nice, but, "should?" Not necessarily.
  • generalmyrick
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    Yes!
    i would but...

    on second thought...

    the whole "chapter" hustle makes you think they would come out with a bunch of features that wouldn't go to "lifetime" members.
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  • WhiteCoatSyndrome
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    If this was something they were going to do, they really should have done it from the start.

    As @generalmyrick pointed out, they'd start cutting lifetime subscribers out of content sooner rather then later but at this point in the game's cycle it's obvious. Not to say they wouldn't get ANY if they rolled it out now, but not nearly as many as they'd have gotten before Chapters and the numerous 'free' DLC. Now most of their base is aware of their habit of tacking on 'extra' charges and won't take such an offer at face value.
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  • KingYogi415
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    So that comes with 80 years worth of crowns?
  • Tasear
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    No
    It's not a good business model for games. Though it's got a life time subscription for my heart B)
  • zaria
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    No
    Tasear wrote: »
    It's not a good business model for games. Though it's got a life time subscription for my heart B)
    This, its an we are very short on cash and need fast money over long term income.

    Grinding just make you go in circles.
    Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.
  • Nyladreas
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    No
    Pls no. To make it reasonable it would have to be some really low price like 100 bucks. Everyone would buy it and ESO would lose well over 2/3 of their passive income. Just NO. For the health of the game.
    Edited by Nyladreas on March 26, 2018 8:23AM
  • Turelus
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    No
    No. Experience speaking lifetime subs are only offered by games which know they're not going to do well for many years.

    ESO for all its issues doesn't show any sign of failing or slowing down, as such ZOS stand to make more money by asking for continued subs.

    Their business model of B2P sub for extras also wouldn't work as well if there was a "buy more for all the things to play once".
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  • DieAlteHexe
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    Only if it saves me money
    Turelus wrote: »
    No. Experience speaking lifetime subs are only offered by games which know they're not going to do well for many years.

    ESO for all its issues doesn't show any sign of failing or slowing down, as such ZOS stand to make more money by asking for continued subs.

    Their business model of B2P sub for extras also wouldn't work as well if there was a "buy more for all the things to play once".

    LOTRO was an exception. They offered it at release and, well, whilst it's not the most populated nor popular it's still chugging along.

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  • AzraelKrieg
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    No
    How would crowns be distributed? How many crowns would be given? The life of the game is too influx. It may shut down in 12 months or it may shut down in 12 years.
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  • Turelus
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    No
    Turelus wrote: »
    No. Experience speaking lifetime subs are only offered by games which know they're not going to do well for many years.

    ESO for all its issues doesn't show any sign of failing or slowing down, as such ZOS stand to make more money by asking for continued subs.

    Their business model of B2P sub for extras also wouldn't work as well if there was a "buy more for all the things to play once".

    LOTRO was an exception. They offered it at release and, well, whilst it's not the most populated nor popular it's still chugging along.
    Fair enough, but I would hope most agree that even with that exception lifetime subs died out because people started to see a pattern of games offering them then flopping/dying.
    Does LOTRO have other costs on top of that now, or do they run a model where you paid that one fee and you forever get it all?
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  • DieAlteHexe
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    Only if it saves me money
    Turelus wrote: »
    Turelus wrote: »
    No. Experience speaking lifetime subs are only offered by games which know they're not going to do well for many years.

    ESO for all its issues doesn't show any sign of failing or slowing down, as such ZOS stand to make more money by asking for continued subs.

    Their business model of B2P sub for extras also wouldn't work as well if there was a "buy more for all the things to play once".

    LOTRO was an exception. They offered it at release and, well, whilst it's not the most populated nor popular it's still chugging along.
    Fair enough, but I would hope most agree that even with that exception lifetime subs died out because people started to see a pattern of games offering them then flopping/dying.
    Does LOTRO have other costs on top of that now, or do they run a model where you paid that one fee and you forever get it all?

    Honestly don't know about other games w/lifetime subs, Turelus. Sorry!

    I've not been in game for awhile now (sidetracked with SWTOR for a bit and back here) but when last I was, we got everything as it came along plus an allotment of "coins" per month. Can't remember the amount and it's not installed on this machine for me to quickly check. I kind of like it in that once paid for, you can wander off and play other games and retain the benefits (coins, loyalties etc.). Would only make sense to me if you did it from the get go and that is a huge leap of faith, indeed. We gave it a lot of thought before going with it. No regrets but it's not something I would do with just any old game either.


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  • TelvanniWizard
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    They should just remove subscription all together
    Seems the money from subs is nothing compared with scam crates revenue. And all the chapter/DLC mess...
  • jedtb16_ESO
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    No
    define lifetime?

    subscribers lifetime or games lifetime.

    if it's subscriber would a 70 year old have to pay the same as a 20 year old?
  • LadyAstrum
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    Only if it saves me money
    Yes, for those that want it. @jedtb16_ESO it would be the games lifetime, not the individuals.
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  • Turelus
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    No
    For those who do want one, what do you think the cost should be? I am interested in this because considering ZOS can make a healthy $10-15/mo right now a lifetime would have to be pretty damn high.
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  • DieAlteHexe
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    Only if it saves me money
    Turelus wrote: »
    For those who do want one, what do you think the cost should be? I am interested in this because considering ZOS can make a healthy $10-15/mo right now a lifetime would have to be pretty damn high.

    LoTRO was 199 USD for "founders" (e.g. pre-release) and 299 after release. FWIW

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  • Universe
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    No
    Nyladreas wrote: »
    Pls no. To make it reasonable it would have to be some really low price like 100 bucks. Everyone would buy it and ESO would lose well over 2/3 of their passive income. Just NO. For the health of the game.

    Exactly.
    ZOS needs a passive source of income to maintain the game and release new content.
    If life time subscription will be available, many will buy it rather than paying every month/other period of time.
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  • Jade1986
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    Only if it saves me money
    So that comes with 80 years worth of crowns?

    Yeah, I use giropay in germany, and get all my crowns at once, so that means i would get 1,440,000 crowns. xD
  • ervanol
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    Yes!
    Star Trek Online has it. The price is 300 dollar. Twice a year it is on sale for 200 dollar. When you buy it you get all the perks you get when you sub, 100 day perk, 200 days etc. up to 1000 days. I bought it for 200 dollar and it is definitely worth it. You also get 500 Zen each month. It is what Crowns are in this game. You can buy a top tier space ship for 3000 Zen.

    Lifetime sub in ESO? For 200 dollar I would buy it in a heartbeat.
    Edited by ervanol on March 26, 2018 11:00AM
  • Zeni0s
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    Zos earn more money with €15 each mounth than €200/300 oneshoted. It won't happened :)
  • Jade1986
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    Only if it saves me money
    ervanol wrote: »
    Star Trek Online has it. The price is 300 dollar. Twice a year it is on sale for 200 dollar. When you buy it you get all the perks you get when you sub, 100 day perk, 200 days etc. up to 1000 days. I bought it for 200 dollar and it is definitely worth it. You also get 500 Zen each month. It is what Crowns are in this game. You can buy a top tier space ship for 3000 Zen.

    Lifetime sub in ESO? For 200 dollar I would buy it in a heartbeat.

    So would I. I still would like my 1,44 million crowns though, come on, DOOOOO IT! xD
  • smacky
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    ervanol wrote: »
    Star Trek Online has it. The price is 300 dollar. Twice a year it is on sale for 200 dollar. When you buy it you get all the perks you get when you sub, 100 day perk, 200 days etc. up to 1000 days. I bought it for 200 dollar and it is definitely worth it. You also get 500 Zen each month. It is what Crowns are in this game. You can buy a top tier space ship for 3000 Zen.

    Lifetime sub in ESO? For 200 dollar I would buy it in a heartbeat.

    The problem for ESO is they are making almost $200 a year from ESO+ subs.

    As appealing as the idea is, I don't agree with it for a multitude of reasons, but one of the big ones is that if the money stops rolling in, the servers stop being maintained and then get shut down.

    I don't know how many players Star Trek has, but I would guess that over half the ESO player base use ESO+ (based on my guilds and friends). If that income stream dried up, eventually I think it would be detrimental to the game.
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    Jade1986 wrote: »
    So that comes with 80 years worth of crowns?

    Yeah, I use giropay in germany, and get all my crowns at once, so that means i would get 1,440,000 crowns. xD

    Almost enough to get a radiant crate mount?
  • AlexanderDeLarge
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    Yes!
    I'd much rather they just sell the crafting bag outright. Even if it was something crazy like 15,000 crowns. I buy the content releases outright. I will never pay for ESO+. There needs to be a solution for me outside of paying for that kind of functionality.

    I don't think people realize how high the price of a lifetime subscription would be. It'd be something like $300-$400 at the very least and that's the only way I'd go for ESO+
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  • Beardimus
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    Only if it saves me money
    Absolutely, but would need to save me money. Alot of services even Xbox dvr offer a lifetime hit. Great way to get a lump sum in for the devs. I'd gladly pay 24 months worth now to cover ESO Plus for life even with the game a bit down its lifespan
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  • smacky
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    I'd much rather they just sell the crafting bag outright. Even if it was something crazy like 15,000 crowns. I buy the content releases outright. I will never pay for ESO+. There needs to be a solution for me outside of paying for that kind of functionality.

    I don't think people realize how high the price of a lifetime subscription would be. It'd be something like $300-$400 at the very least and that's the only way I'd go for ESO+


    The sub would have to be reduced in price or have something to replace it for that idea to work, since it is the driving force behind people buying a monthly sub, but I think the ability to buy the crafting bag outright is a great idea.
  • yiasemi
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    I'm 52, so if they make it a reasonable gamble, I'll take them on. Maybe if i have to undergo a medical first then they make me an offer. Like insurance companies. Just coming back for my third time, kept the sub up all this time. I'd consider it. Go on ZOS. Can I convert crowns to medical care?
  • Danikat
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    It's highly unlikely I'd buy one if it was offered. Firstly I'd be worried about the future of the game, especially if they suddenly started offering it now.

    But I'd be more worried about what would and would not be included. Obviously chapters would not be included but the DLC and other current subscription benefits would, and I assume you'd receive 1500 crowns a month (seems the simplest way to do it). But what about future additions to the game/ESO+? How long until they bring out something new and announce it's a special offer for regular subscribers or it's a new system so everyone had to pay?

    If you're currently unhappy you can unsub temporarily or permanently - like the people who cancel their sub for a few months and use the money to buy the expansions instead of paying twice - but you can't do that with a lifetime sub.
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  • Azurya
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    No
    their lifetime or my lifetime?
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