Will we have to buy Summerset to experience the new jewelry crafting system?

Hiimfinest · March 2018

Title.

KingYogi415 · March 2018

Of course,

Elder Scrolls Online is a business, not a soup kitchen.

BloodWolfe · March 2018

Yes! Like any expansion in any (and every other game), all new features require purchasing the expansion. You can't get everything for nothing!

TelvanniWizard · March 2018

That´s kinda lame...

WhiteCoatSyndrome · March 2018

KingYogi415 wrote: »

Of course,

Elder Scrolls Online is a business, not a soup kitchen.

It's not a guarantee; traditionally they've been pretty good at keeping anything that affects game balance from being exclusive, and they've previously stated they'd be adding these things to the normal crafting areas. The home-version might be exclusive and/or ridiculously expensive though. I expect some kind of catch.

Mashille · March 2018

I actually highly doubt it, they said you can craft them for Armour Sets and armour sets are located all over the World.

rustic_potato · March 2018

My guess is they are going to make it similar to the transmute station. Those who have the chapter can go to the stations placed around the map in Summerset and craft. Those who don't, can purchase it for a ridiculous amount from the crown store or furnishing merchant to add it to their homes.

The chapter needs to add value to be considered worth buying and this is similar to how the warden class is only available to Morrowind owners. Jewel crafting and the Psijic order skill line would make it worth buying the chapter.

ak_pvp · March 2018

KingYogi415 wrote: »

Of course,

Elder Scrolls Online is a business, not a soup kitchen.

Anyone who wants to buy their strengths is probably bad and making this a standard is stupid. Selling DLCs, cosmetics, utility etc is more than enough. You know they can keep balance separate from monetization, and the only reason they don't is because people buy it anyway, and it takes SWBF2 levels of outrage to change it.

May as well add vMA weapons because its not a soup kitchen ye?

RaddlemanNumber7 · March 2018

I am 100% expecting that Jewellery crafting will be part of the base game. I don't see how an entire craft skill line can work any other way.

TequilaFire · March 2018

Should be a base game feature, even transmutation can be done without Morrowind by going to someone's house with a station.

Waffennacht · March 2018

Probably similar to transmutation station if I were to guess

Peekachu99 · March 2018

ak_pvp wrote: »

KingYogi415 wrote: »

Of course,

Elder Scrolls Online is a business, not a soup kitchen.

Anyone who wants to buy their strengths is probably bad and making this a standard is stupid. Selling DLCs, cosmetics, utility etc is more than enough. You know they can keep balance separate from monetization, and the only reason they don't is because people buy it anyway, and it takes SWBF2 levels of outrage to change it.

May as well add vMA weapons because its not a soup kitchen ye?

This is a bad argument. It’s like saying WoW is selling “power” with each expansion since the level cap is increased (only if you buy it) and there are additional skills/ gear caps.

Aliyavana · March 2018

It will probably be like transmute stations where you need the content to access it but if you are rich enough you can access it from your home without dlc

Kumba_Ya · March 2018

ak_pvp wrote: »

KingYogi415 wrote: »

Of course,

Elder Scrolls Online is a business, not a soup kitchen.

Anyone who wants to buy their strengths is probably bad and making this a standard is stupid. Selling DLCs, cosmetics, utility etc is more than enough. You know they can keep balance separate from monetization, and the only reason they don't is because people buy it anyway, and it takes SWBF2 levels of outrage to change it.

May as well add vMA weapons because its not a soup kitchen ye?

Lol what? VMA isn’t free, everyone has paid for the dlc or is paying a subscription to get a chance to farm those weapons

rustic_potato · March 2018

ak_pvp wrote: »

KingYogi415 wrote: »

Of course,

Elder Scrolls Online is a business, not a soup kitchen.

Anyone who wants to buy their strengths is probably bad and making this a standard is stupid. Selling DLCs, cosmetics, utility etc is more than enough. You know they can keep balance separate from monetization, and the only reason they don't is because people buy it anyway, and it takes SWBF2 levels of outrage to change it.

May as well add vMA weapons because its not a soup kitchen ye?

LOL. Bad example as you need to pay for DLC or sub to access vMA. ZOS can do whatever they want as long as people are willing to pay for it. Its just as simple as that.

MilwaukeeScott · March 2018

RaddlemanNumber7 wrote: »

I am 100% expecting that Jewellery crafting will be part of the base game. I don't see how an entire craft skill line can work any other way.

Yep.

Grimm13 · March 2018

I would suspect that in order to craft or add the traits using the transmute, then you would have to have the chapter.

Question is will they allow people to purchase from crafters and use the pieces without owning the chapter. My guess is that they would as it does make the new items available to all.

MLGProPlayer · March 2018

You will only be able to craft and upgrade jewllery if you own Summerset.

If you don't own the expansion, you will still be able to trade for jewllery with other players who can craft it.

MLGProPlayer · March 2018

ak_pvp wrote: »

KingYogi415 wrote: »

Of course,

Elder Scrolls Online is a business, not a soup kitchen.

Anyone who wants to buy their strengths is probably bad and making this a standard is stupid. Selling DLCs, cosmetics, utility etc is more than enough. You know they can keep balance separate from monetization, and the only reason they don't is because people buy it anyway, and it takes SWBF2 levels of outrage to change it.

May as well add vMA weapons because its not a soup kitchen ye?

No MMO has ever worked like this.

Expansions always come with new gameplay features. If you want the new features, you need to buy the expansion. It's pretty simple.

If you can't afford $30, then you should probably be out looking for a job rather than playing an MMO.

Jaxwell · March 2018

RaddlemanNumber7 wrote: »

I am 100% expecting that Jewellery crafting will be part of the base game. I don't see how an entire craft skill line can work any other way.

yep - fingers crossed!

gepe87 · March 2018

Without profit, studios can't expand their business, can't hire new people and can't do all that advertisements. I'm ok with jewelcrafting behind a expansoin because you can even get meta sets without them. You can do a lot of thing without all features on DLC/chapters, please don't expect to get everything with 10 bucks/month. Investments need profit, always.

WhiteCoatSyndrome · March 2018

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

You will only be able to craft and upgrade jewllery if you own Summerset.

If you don't own the expansion, you will still be able to trade for jewllery with other players who can craft it.

@MLGProPlayer Source?

Jolipinator · March 2018

If it functions like all other crafting skills, limiting it to Summerset would be a disaster.

Imagine the nodes only spawning only on Summerset. All players there would be fighting over them.

If they spawn all over Tamriel but non Summerset players can't use them...

Just make it a base game update, like poison crafting.

Acrolas · March 2018

As a marketed feature, it's going to be a system exclusive to Summerset content. In what ways, we'll find out soon enough.

Transmutation was not a marketed feature of Clockwork City so it's not a lateral comparison.
https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/updates/dlc/clockworkcity

Seraphayel · March 2018

Jewelrycrafting should be a base game update. It's pretty lame to lock something so basic behind a paywall.

AlnilamE · March 2018

Grimm13 wrote: »

I would suspect that in order to craft or add the traits using the transmute, then you would have to have the chapter.

Question is will they allow people to purchase from crafters and use the pieces without owning the chapter. My guess is that they would as it does make the new items available to all.

You can transmute items if you don't own Clockwork City if you or your guild has a Transmute station. You can craft from stations attuned to DLC sets that you do not own.

Since jewelry will be added to crafting stations that already exist, I don't see how this would NOT be part of the base game.

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

You will only be able to craft and upgrade jewllery if you own Summerset.

If you don't own the expansion, you will still be able to trade for jewllery with other players who can craft it.

You can transmute items if you don't own Clockwork City if you or your guild has a Transmute station. You can craft from stations attuned to DLC sets that you do not own.

Since jewelry will be added to crafting stations that already exist, I don't see how this would NOT be part of the base game.

And yes, as with any other craft, jewelers will be able to sell their wares to other players who do not own the DLC.

Hiimfinest · March 2018

Seraphayel wrote: »

Jewelrycrafting should be a base game update. It's pretty lame to lock something so basic behind a paywall.

This seems like a core gameplay element that they are adding so I would agree.

Banana · March 2018

If ya want cheap. Dont play an mmo

Yolokin_Swagonborn · March 2018

For those people saying yes, where are the jewelry crafting stations going to be? If I want to craft hunding's rage jewelry, do I not go to the hunding's rage world location?

Grimm13 · March 2018

AlnilamE wrote: »

Grimm13 wrote: »

I would suspect that in order to craft or add the traits using the transmute, then you would have to have the chapter.

Question is will they allow people to purchase from crafters and use the pieces without owning the chapter. My guess is that they would as it does make the new items available to all.

You can transmute items if you don't own Clockwork City if you or your guild has a Transmute station. You can craft from stations attuned to DLC sets that you do not own.

Since jewelry will be added to crafting stations that already exist, I don't see how this would NOT be part of the base game.

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

You will only be able to craft and upgrade jewllery if you own Summerset.

If you don't own the expansion, you will still be able to trade for jewllery with other players who can craft it.

You can transmute items if you don't own Clockwork City if you or your guild has a Transmute station. You can craft from stations attuned to DLC sets that you do not own.

Since jewelry will be added to crafting stations that already exist, I don't see how this would NOT be part of the base game.

And yes, as with any other craft, jewelers will be able to sell their wares to other players who do not own the DLC.

I wonder about the transmute or if because the Jewelry crafting adds in 6 additional traits. You have to know the traits to use Transmute, so if you do not know Jewelry Crafting you can not add the traits.

Or is it like the glyphs since the three traits we have already are part of that, so will the new traits also be applied glyphs. Even then you will have to learn the new ones to make them, but could you apply a glyph that is made. all questioons to be answered.

Rosveen · March 2018

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

For those people saying yes, where are the jewelry crafting stations going to be? If I want to craft hunding's rage jewelry, do I not go to the hunding's rage world location?

To be fair, they can make the stations unusable if you don't have Summerset. We already have thieves troves in base game zones that you can't open without the DLC.

I don't know if that's what they're going to do, but they could.