Do you want alternate skill and CP templates per character?

Iselin · March 2018

I know that through re-speccing we can re-purpose our characters and CP allocation to better suit PVP, PVE, Healing, DPS, tanking... but it's cumbersome and time consuming to change your morphs and specially change the CP.

And yes, we can have multiple characters all with the same CP pool so we can also just make alts for the other types of game play or roles we want to play. But our QOL in the game would be ever so much better if we could just click one button and switch to our PVP CP allocation and skills or our tanking one or whatever.

What do you guys think?

crobarXIII · March 2018

Yes. We need alternate specs.

This would be welcomed on console & include gear into these templates. I believe PC can use add-ons for this.

gabriebe · March 2018

Yes. We need alternate specs.

Yeah, it would be great. I think there's an addon for CP now, but still it would be a lot better if it was an ingame feature without the fee. Something like a one-hour cooldown on CP change would be fine to prevent abuse.

Muttsmutt · March 2018

Yes. We need alternate specs.

yes, even with a gold cost

SinisterG · March 2018

Yes. We need alternate specs.

Would love this. Neverwinter implemented a "load out" feature where you could create two sets of skills, attributes and equipment. Great feature but definitely not enough to make me stick with the game. For those of you who think ESO is P2W then spend some time in neverwinter and you should come back to ESO with a fresh perspective.

Kingslayer513 · March 2018

Yes. We need alternate specs.

I don't even care about templates or multiple PVE slots and such; I just want a separation between PVP and PVE.

Seriously ZOS, there's no excuse for this. CP for PVE and PVP are vastly different from each other, and the same goes for quite a few skills as well. Just make it so if you reallocate cp in Cyro, it saves as a separate instance of your cp than that of PVE. Same goes for skills, just add a respec shrine to Cyro and do the same as I suggested for cp.

It shouldn't even be that difficult to implement, just throw us a bone here :'(

Orjix · March 2018

Yes. We need alternate specs.

just give us different load outs for PvE and PvE so i dont have to reset my morphs all the time, just a waste of time and money

TheRealPotoroo · March 2018

Yes. We need alternate specs.

God, yes. Even within PVE you need multiple builds if you mix things like overland, dungeons and trials. And that's before you get to PVE and PVP, which are basically two different games.

How much better my life as a tank would have been if I could have one-click switched between tanking builds and DPS overland builds.

Odnoc · March 2018

No. It's fine how it is.

Nope, do not turn this into WoW 2.0. Shared CP pool is good enough.

Goshua · March 2018

Yes. We need alternate specs.

Odnoc wrote: »

Nope, do not turn this into WoW 2.0. Shared CP pool is good enough.

edit - snipped my snipe at zos

We can have any 'spec' we like in this game, maybe you're confusing fixed choices set by developers rather than the freedom we have (albeit ltd by the meta).

[Save current configuration] <-- that would be all they needed and list of saved templates to switch between.
Maintaining the gold fee, and or free if your residence..other in games currencies could be used too (telvar, AP, surplus undaunted rep.. ..transmute crytsal

because why not?

Hurtfan · March 2018

Yes. We need alternate specs.

I would like it simply for testing out new builds and have the ability to switch back and forth, while you're in front of the DPS dummy.

But of course would also be great switching back and forth between PvP and PvE builds.

Add gear templates also, it'd be the bee's knees.

BuddyAces · March 2018

Goshua wrote: »

Odnoc wrote: »

Nope, do not turn this into WoW 2.0. Shared CP pool is good enough.

Yes because features that make a game great have no place here.

Some people are just plain weird dude.

Aurielle · March 2018

Yes. We need alternate specs.

Whole-heartedly agree. It would make life much easier to have at least two different specs to switch to on the fly (out of combat, of course).

Goshua · March 2018

Yes. We need alternate specs.

BuddyAces wrote: »

Goshua wrote: »

Odnoc wrote: »

Nope, do not turn this into WoW 2.0. Shared CP pool is good enough.

Yes because features that make a game great have no place here.

Some people are just plain weird dude.

They are and they give us more elaborate weirdo's a bad name

DeadlyPhoenix · March 2018

Yes. We need alternate specs.

I could see them doing this actually. Only thing is, they will make the first slot free, then charge you 1500 crowns for each additional spec slot per character. So if you want a PvP build, healer build, dps build and tank build all on one character, drop 6000+ crowns and it's yours!

Just think of the outfit system.....

(Only a little salty)

TheShadowScout · March 2018

No. It's fine how it is.

No.

I happen to think people should have to make choices, and have their choices mean something...

You should have to choose to either specialize for PvE and then perform subpar in PvP, or specialize for PvP and then loose some PvE effectiveness, or pick some half-half setup and then can do well enough but not exceptional in both...
And not have multiple setups that allow you to pick "the best" for each occasion and avoid -any- drawbacks.

Beardimus · March 2018

Yes. We need alternate specs.

Needs to be out of combat. I would say in home o ly and for sale or crowns and changes CP,. Skills, gear.

I'd pay 5k now. He'll even 10k

crobarXIII · March 2018

Yes. We need alternate specs.

TheShadowScout wrote: »

No.

I happen to think people should have to make choices, and have their choices mean something...

You should have to choose to either specialize for PvE and then perform subpar in PvP, or specialize for PvP and then loose some PvE effectiveness, or pick some half-half setup and then can do well enough but not exceptional in both...
And not have multiple setups that allow you to pick "the best" for each occasion and avoid -any- drawbacks.

I think you misunderstood the OP. OP just wants a quicker way to change gear, cp & skills. This could be done by adding templates or loadouts that are preset with the gear, cp & skills of your choice. So instead manually changing everything everytime you just take a few seconds swapping templates/loadouts instead of minutes. of course there should be a gold cost if you're rearranging your cp or changing morphs between templates/loadouts.

Goshua · March 2018

Yes. We need alternate specs.

TheShadowScout wrote: »

No.

I happen to think people should have to make choices, and have their choices mean something...

You should have to choose to either specialize for PvE and then perform subpar in PvP, or specialize for PvP and then loose some PvE effectiveness, or pick some half-half setup and then can do well enough but not exceptional in both...
And not have multiple setups that allow you to pick "the best" for each occasion and avoid -any- drawbacks.

Friend, you can do this anytime you can afford too with gold, you can also purchase scrolls for resetting all but your CP.

The point being you can swap between specs.
The only thing stopping you is getting sick and tired of replacing points each and every single time you wish to change the focus of your playstyle.

I realised after posting I've misinterpreted your post, apologies.
I'll leave my reply though as It is, as your was, a personal opinion.

Vostorn · March 2018

Yes. We need alternate specs.

Yes but with conditions :

Out of combat (obviously)
If in Cyrodiil, only in starting keep
If in IC, only at base camp
If in battleground, not if it's started
If in dungeon/trial, only at the entrance
Only one spec per run of maelstrom arena.

I can see it as a way for ZO$ to make money out of it : give 2 free slots to everyone (so everyone can switch between 2 templates), crowns unlock additional slots as with outfits.

BuddyAces · March 2018

TheShadowScout wrote: »

No.

I happen to think people should have to make choices, and have their choices mean something...

You should have to choose to either specialize for PvE and then perform subpar in PvP, or specialize for PvP and then loose some PvE effectiveness, or pick some half-half setup and then can do well enough but not exceptional in both...
And not have multiple setups that allow you to pick "the best" for each occasion and avoid -any- drawbacks.

Swing and a miss

kargen27 · March 2018

Beardimus wrote: »

Needs to be out of combat. I would say in home o ly and for sale or crowns and changes CP,. Skills, gear.

I'd pay 5k now. He'll even 10k

Some players have no interest in having a home. To accommodate those players make it available in fighter and mage guilds as well as homes. Won't help those who want to change on the fly depending on what creature they are about to battle but that is probably for the better.

And it should cost in game currency.

crobarXIII · March 2018

Yes. We need alternate specs.

Vostorn wrote: »

Yes but with conditions :
Out of combat (obviously)

If in Cyrodiil, only in starting keep

If in IC, only at base camp

If in battleground, not if it's started

If in dungeon/trial, only at the entrance

Only one spec per run of maelstrom arena.

I can see it as a way for ZO$ to make money out of it : give 2 free slots to everyone (so everyone can switch between 2 templates), crowns unlock additional slots as with outfits.

I can't agree with #5. Tanks have to sometimes change gear & skills during a trial depending on the fight. If you want tanks to go through 2 load screens just to use this feature than they might as well change it manually. In maelstrom you can already make adjustments between stages or wayshrine after a death & make changes.

temjiu · March 2018

Yes. We need alternate specs.

Definitely needed.

It SHOULD be a list of templates that you can select from the skill window, gold cost or no irrelevant to me. you should at least have 2 slots available with no cost. They should include both skills and CP.

What will MOST LIKELY HAPPEN is they'll build it, then implement it with one slot free, and the rest costing an absorbent amount of crowns. This is an unfortunate trend for them.

But I'd be willing to pay a REALISTIC and DECENT amount to unlock multiple slots if it was a good system. Note reasonable (which the costume system is currently NOT).

While they're at it, they should also implement a per skill and per morph option, so we can pay to change a single skill or morph. Both are very much needed.

crobarXIII wrote: »

I can't agree with #5. Tanks have to sometimes change gear & skills during a trial depending on the fight. If you want tanks to go through 2 load screens just to use this feature than they might as well change it manually. In maelstrom you can already make adjustments between stages or wayshrine after a death & make changes.

I agree. Although a CD on the ability could also cover this and a bunch of the other limitations on the list. or perhaps require a reagent for resetting the CD, with a longer CD to prevent abuse in other areas.

TheShadowScout · March 2018

No. It's fine how it is.

crobarXIII wrote: »

I think you misunderstood the OP. OP just wants a quicker way to change gear, cp & skills...

I understood correctly.
And that is just what I dislike. People wanting to quick-change armor, CP distribution and for some even skill morphs.

I have no issues with swapping armor sets, I just think that ought to be done by hand and not in a heartbeat between fights.

I have no issues with CP or skill morphs being changeable, since sometimes you realize you choose... poorly... I just happen to think it ought to be enough of a pain in the posterior that people will think twice about doing it, and consider their choices carefully.

And I really dislike it how people want to avoid making any choices at all by demanding they be allowed to switch between both options as they like. I think it demeans the game, doing that.

(Also, not like people can't make one pvE and one pvP character if they really are all that much concerned with super-effectiveness!)

But as has been mentioned, this is just my personal view as a roleplayer... I -hate- games that allow quick-change options for character-setup stuff like that. I mean, the only way it would make sense was if we all played android characters, where we can replace one skillchip with another...

Haquor · March 2018

Yes. We need alternate specs.

Thats a resounding yes please zos. Other games have the ability to save builds for smooth transition. Can even keep a cost or apply cooldown. Anything would be better than resetting and applying all skill points, cp, bars and gear every time.

Narvuntien · March 2018

Yes. We need alternate specs.

I personally think there should be separate CP systems for PVE and PVP.

BuddyAces · March 2018

TheShadowScout wrote: »

crobarXIII wrote: »

I think you misunderstood the OP. OP just wants a quicker way to change gear, cp & skills...

I understood correctly.
And that is just what I dislike. People wanting to quick-change armor, CP distribution and for some even skill morphs.

I have no issues with swapping armor sets, I just think that ought to be done by hand and not in a heartbeat between fights.

I have no issues with CP or skill morphs being changeable, since sometimes you realize you choose... poorly... I just happen to think it ought to be enough of a pain in the posterior that people will think twice about doing it, and consider their choices carefully.

And I really dislike it how people want to avoid making any choices at all by demanding they be allowed to switch between both options as they like. I think it demeans the game, doing that.

(Also, not like people can't make one pvE and one pvP character if they really are all that much concerned with super-effectiveness!)

But as has been mentioned, this is just my personal view as a roleplayer... I -hate- games that allow quick-change options for character-setup stuff like that. I mean, the only way it would make sense was if we all played android characters, where we can replace one skillchip with another...

Then you can opt to not use it. This whole "I don't like it so no one should have it" way of thinking is just really bad.

kargen27 · March 2018

crobarXIII wrote: »

Vostorn wrote: »

Yes but with conditions :
Out of combat (obviously)

If in Cyrodiil, only in starting keep

If in IC, only at base camp

If in battleground, not if it's started

If in dungeon/trial, only at the entrance

Only one spec per run of maelstrom arena.

I can see it as a way for ZO$ to make money out of it : give 2 free slots to everyone (so everyone can switch between 2 templates), crowns unlock additional slots as with outfits.

I can't agree with #5. Tanks have to sometimes change gear & skills during a trial depending on the fight. If you want tanks to go through 2 load screens just to use this feature than they might as well change it manually. In maelstrom you can already make adjustments between stages or wayshrine after a death & make changes.

I can see allowing a quick swap of skills and gear anywhere any time. Switching out Champion Points though with one click should only be available at certain locations. And it should come with a cost.

monktoasty · March 2018

Yes. We need alternate specs.

Yes please..to those who say no..go home yer drunk

Morgul667 · March 2018

Yes. We need alternate specs.

yes, 3 pre-sets

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