The Dominion's Impossible Landing in Shadowfen

ArchMikem · March 2018

Truly a spectacle for the Queen's mighty Navy, for none of their enemies, be they Pact ships or impassable landmasses, can stop them from achieving their goals. Their great vessels go wherever the Queen desires them to, even if it probably means taking a team of Mages to teleport the entire boat up-river via straight through an Argonian Temple. A Temple in which a Pirate ship is already docked and also blocking the way.

Maybe someone in the Art department, or whoever it is, could spend some time redesigning a few areas of landscape to make them more continuity and logically friendly? For all these massive ships to traverse such constricting waters is a feat that even makes Wizards blush.

TelvanniWizard · March 2018

Yeah, an don´t forget that Shadowfen´s river isn´t even concected to the ocean, so, unless they dropped the ship via giant eagles I don´t know how the hell did they got there.

Lynx7386 · March 2018

They obviously watch the show 'vikings'. Great show btw.

in that show, ragnar lothbrok has his raiding fleet lift their boats up a cliff, push them across a few miles of terrain, and put them back in the water upriver of the French defensive forts in order to bypass them and attack Paris.

Konstant_Tel_Necris · March 2018

They actually can get there by air and then just landed on water

http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Shadowkey:Narrative
Now look at design of Dominion ship

And read about Sun Birds
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:First_Hold

red_emu · March 2018

Considering Altmer superiority in terms of magic, I don't think it would have been impossible to levitate the entire ship over that bit of land and drop it back in the river. Most likely someone in the quest design department missed that detail and missed an opportunity to explain it.

What baffles me more is that why is there a sail boat on a small island off the coast of Vulkhel Guard with a strange, blue, glowing sail? An abandoned side quest? Was it an easter egg? If it's an easter egg, I want to know what's it referring to?

rhapsodious · March 2018

red_emu wrote: »

What baffles me more is that why is there a sail boat on a small island off the coast of Vulkhel Guard with a strange, blue, glowing sail? An abandoned side quest? Was it an easter egg? If it's an easter egg, I want to know what's it referring to?

Is that the one you take for the Clockwork City prologue quest by any chance, or is there another mysterious boat I'm not remembering?

psychotrip · March 2018

Konstant_Tel_Necris wrote: »

They actually can get there by air and then just landed on water

http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Shadowkey:Narrative
Now look at design of Dominion ship

And read about Sun Birds
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:First_Hold

Except ESO more or less retconned all of the advanced magic the altmer supposedly had. You'd think that someone, anyone, would have referenced this ability in-game if it existed in ESO's interpretation of the lore.

Sorry dude, but it just sounds like a convenient excuse to explain poor worldbuilding. Even if this was the case, it would be an example of poor writing, as we're expected to believe that no one, anyone, sees reason to bring this up again, and that the Dominion, for some bizarre reason, never ever uses this ability in any other situation despite how useful it would be.

Starlight_Knight · March 2018

i have noticed this as well, i'm sure similar things are in some other places as well

i just put it down to - we have to role play the river is wider and deeper than it is lol

Konstant_Tel_Necris · March 2018

psychotrip wrote: »

Except ESO more or less retconned all of the advanced magic the altmer supposedly had. You'd think that someone, anyone, would have referenced this ability in-game if it existed in ESO's interpretation of the lore.

Sorry dude, but it just sounds like a convenient excuse to explain poor worldbuilding. Even if this was the case, it would be an example of poor writing, as we're expected to believe that no one, anyone, sees reason to bring this up again, and that the Dominion, for some bizarre reason, never ever uses this ability in any other situation despite how useful it would be.

Sure its impossible to not say that's devs just forget about logic, this is just game after all and there can be simplifications and some details overlooked.

But from other side that's explain why Dominion invaded Shadowfen, as they require large amounts of magical fuel to make fleet levitate, remember Sun Birds require magicka to reach Aetherius, that's why Dominion extract and boil Hist sap, think about it even Molag Bal was interested in Hist Sap for same reason as it was good magical fuel.

So after they secured this area by small invader group that was possible to levitate entire fleet of Dominion and achieve victory over Pact.

About retcon of high tech magic that was used by altmers, there are still examples of it like light beam harbor defense system
http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Eye_of_the_Ancients
There also magical compass in Clockwork prologue
http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Of_Knives_and_Long_Shadows
And of course
http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:The_Orrery_of_Elden_Root
As you can see many of them have similar features, and I assume some magic tech was forgotten in times of ESO, I still interested to see more examples of such artifacts in Summerset, perhaps we will see more of them.

psychotrip · March 2018

Konstant_Tel_Necris wrote: »

psychotrip wrote: »

Except ESO more or less retconned all of the advanced magic the altmer supposedly had. You'd think that someone, anyone, would have referenced this ability in-game if it existed in ESO's interpretation of the lore.

Sorry dude, but it just sounds like a convenient excuse to explain poor worldbuilding. Even if this was the case, it would be an example of poor writing, as we're expected to believe that no one, anyone, sees reason to bring this up again, and that the Dominion, for some bizarre reason, never ever uses this ability in any other situation despite how useful it would be.

Sure its impossible to not say that's devs just forget about logic, this is just game after all and there can be simplifications and some details overlooked.

But from other side that's explain why Dominion invaded Shadowfen, as they require large amounts of magical fuel to make fleet levitate, remember Sun Birds require magicka to reach Aetherius, that's why Dominion extract and boil Hist sap, think about it even Molag Bal was interested in Hist Sap for same reason as it was good magical fuel.

So after they secured this area by small invader group that was possible to levitate entire fleet of Dominion and achieve victory over Pact.

About retcon of high tech magic that was used by altmers, there are still examples of it like light beam harbor defense system
http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Eye_of_the_Ancients
There also magical compass in Clockwork prologue
http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Of_Knives_and_Long_Shadows
And of course
http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:The_Orrery_of_Elden_Root
As you can see many of them have similar features, and I assume some magic tech was forgotten in times of ESO, I still interested to see more examples of such artifacts in Summerset, perhaps we will see more of them.

Why would this stuff just randomly be "forgotten" during the time of ESO? You can maybe get away with that in human regions, but the Altmer are all about preservation. It just doesn't make any sense, man. None of this does. The altmer are humans with pointy ears living in generic medieval europe now.

Fleshreaper · March 2018

Shadowfen is a swam and most of the areas around it are as well. I would imagine that at one time it was flooded enough to get the ship in there and then it was just stuck, waiting for it to flood, again.

M_Volsung · March 2018

They came in during the rainy season when the rivers were much higher.

djyrb · March 2018

My theory is that one of the Khajiit nightblades cloaked his way to the disembarkment point, notified the AD Navy in chat and they teleported to him via the guild menu.