Remove Dodge Roll Penalty in PVE

GrumpyDuckling · August 2017

In PVE, Magicka light armor builds are easier to keep alive than Stamina medium armor builds, mainly because shielding can be repeatedly spammed and covers the health bar, which allows the user to keep attacking with defenses up, while dodge-rolling medium armor builds get penalized for spamming rolls and do not allow the user to attack due to the dodge roll animation.

It's common to see magicka builds easily survive aggro from dungeon mobs due to shields, but it's more difficult (not impossible, just more difficult) to see a stamina build handle mobs so easily. The only stamina build that can do this with relative ease are stam sorcs because of Crit Surge. It would be great to feel better about my defensive options on stamina toons that make them feel as good as magicka toons.

SodanTok · August 2017

Not gonna happen, they want the pve experience to translate to pvp and the other way
Dodge is poor defense in PVE even if it was for free. Some cheaper cost wont change anything about that
Most things bad about dodge in PVE you listed are things that wont change like animation or AoE going through

Basically, unless they change all mechanics about dodge roll. it will never be half as good as shields there

theamazingx · August 2017

Blade cloak and blade cloak and blade cloak, vigor if you feel so inclined. It's true that stam builds currently have a harder learning curve for surviving endgame content, but dodgeroll spammi g is definitely not the solution.

GrumpyDuckling · March 2018

theamazingx wrote: »

Blade cloak and blade cloak and blade cloak, vigor if you feel so inclined. It's true that stam builds currently have a harder learning curve for surviving endgame content, but dodgeroll spammi g is definitely not the solution.

Unfortunately blade cloak requires a specific weapon. I liked the idea of stamina shields (there was a PTS in which Bone Shield scaled off stamina, but it never went live).

I've tried 7/7 well-fitted, but that dodge roll penalty still creeps into it too quickly. It's still much easier to survive on a magicka character by using shields.

MehrunesFlagon · March 2018

For me I would say restore the ability to regen stamina while blocking.

Lynx7386 · March 2018

SodanTok wrote: »

Dodge is poor defense in PVE even if it was for free. Some cheaper cost wont change anything about that

Ever done saint olms? Dodging is crucial for everyone to survive the flame blasts below 25%

Oakmontowls_ESO · March 2018

Lynx7386 wrote: »

SodanTok wrote: »

Dodge is poor defense in PVE even if it was for free. Some cheaper cost wont change anything about that

Ever done saint olms? Dodging is crucial for everyone to survive the flame blasts below 25%

No it's not? Just run to the safe spots. Also if you are running a stam build in vAS you are doing it wrong.

SkyIsTheLimit1206 · March 2018

Shadow cloak for backbar Stamblade, not meta but has its survivability uses

Trust me on this

SaintSubwayy · March 2018

theamazingx wrote: »

Blade cloak and blade cloak and blade cloak, vigor if you feel so inclined. It's true that stam builds currently have a harder learning curve for surviving endgame content, but dodgeroll spammi g is definitely not the solution.

Cloack only negates aoe dmg, so if you pull adds most of them will autoattack you (directdmg) and then cloak is useless.

Best options for stam dps to survive alot of adds are sorcs critsurge, dk corrosive else you prob need to spam dodgeroll or have a healer

Izaki · March 2018

Best Stamina defense in the game that only Stamina builds can use very efficiently often? Block. Literally. People are afraid of blocking for some weird reason in raids when its the easiest and safest thing to do.